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Politico's Martin Still Can't Explain Exactly What Herman Cain Did
RealClearPolitics ^ | November 6, 2011

Posted on 11/06/2011 2:07:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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In an interview with Howard Kurtz on CNN, Politico's Jonathan Martin still can't explain what exactly it is that Herman Cain reportedly did to the women who received payouts from the National Restaurant Association. Mr. Martin's main argument is because the story hasn't been fully challenged, it must be true. Here's a partial transcript of the back-and-forth between Martin and Kurtz.

Howard Kurtz, CNN: "Jonathan Martin, let's talk about the first story last Sunday, you and three colleagues reported this and what it didn't contain in the way of details. Here's the language from the story. Sexually suggestive behavior that made the women angry and uncomfortable, descriptions of physical gestures, not always overtly sexual, innuendo, and in one case, an unwanted sexual advance at a hotel."

"Why publish the story then when you couldn't answer the essential question: What precisely is Herman Cain alleged to have done to these women?"

Jonathan Martin, Politico: "Howie, I think any journalist would find the, uh -- a report of two women got a five figure, each, cash payout after alleged sexual harassment against a CEO of a trade group that is now a major contender for president, newsworthy. And that's the story we had, and that's what we published."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain; lamestreammedia; marriotdirtytrick; martin4romney; msm; politico4romney; pollutico; romney; romneydirt; romneydirtytrick; sorosromney
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Q: Would you have run this story if it was Mr. Obama, another Democrat or a RINO? A: Of course we wouldn't. Look how we buried the John Edwards scandal and JFK's shenanigans.
1 posted on 11/06/2011 2:07:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Alleged sexual harassment” is not sexual harassment.


2 posted on 11/06/2011 2:09:46 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have we reached 11,000+ headlines on Google News yet?

Still no story to go along with the propaganda campaign by the Dem Media?


3 posted on 11/06/2011 2:09:55 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Photobucket Politico ran 90 anti-Cain stories in 5 days: in 5 days! And over what? A gesture! Not a rape, an attack, or an affair with an intern in the Oval Office who isn't your wife...but a gesture! The left is terrified of Herman because he poses the biggest threat to Obama's voting base & socialist agenda. And how is it Politico failed to thoroughly cover the fact Obama snorted coke, smoked weed, was mentored by a self-confessed communist/wanted terrorist in Bill Ayers, & spent 20 years in a racist, anti-American church? Yet, they're talking about a GESTURE amidst this mountain of scandal & historic failures by this administration. Wake-up, America! Perspective, not propaganda!
4 posted on 11/06/2011 2:10:20 PM PST by xuberalles ("The Right Stuff" Conservative Novelties http://www.zazzle.com/xuberalles)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think he should have to explain to his employer(s) why he thought running with this story was worth destroying what scant bit credibility Politico may have had.


5 posted on 11/06/2011 2:10:40 PM PST by South40 (To Tear Down Herman Cain is to aid Mitt Romney)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Seems if it’s “good enough” to have an attorney for one of those “ladies” opine that whatever the act that wasn’t specified was, he believed it to be sexual harassment — well it ought to be good enough to ring up some defense attorneys in this field and have them vouch that this is a normal way to make garbage sexual harassment lawsuits go away.


6 posted on 11/06/2011 2:12:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: South40

There are still people on FR defending this story (saying Cain still has to answer for something). How do you answer when you are not even sure what specifically you are accused of? It makes me SICK.


7 posted on 11/06/2011 2:14:00 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Whenever Team Romney had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonathan Martin has been their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.

“And The Most Irresponsible Journalist Award Goes to The Politico’s Jonathan Martin!
So tell me, how do you write a “news” story about an organization paying for a speaker when you don’t even know if the organization is paying for the speaker?
Ask “journalist” Jonathan Martin. He knows all about it.
You see, Jonny wrote a piss poor story the other day about how the Iowa Family Policy Center will be paying a large speaker fee if Sarah Palin comes to Iowa to keynote the IFPC’s fall funderaiser.
The only problem is that Jonny has no sources confirming that any exorbitant fee is being charged or paid.
Jonny also got some inside info from David Kochel, who was a top aide to former (and future) presidential candidate, Mitt Romney.
Hey Dave, didn’t I just read a story about how Mitt Romney tried to buy off the Iowa Christian Alliance?
I heard you helped facilitate that little scheme. And somehow you are shocked at the thought of a well-known political figure (who very likely isn’t running for president) getting paid a speaker’s fee for (gasp) a public speaking appearance? ..
and then we’ve got Tim Albrecht quoted. He was the Iowa spokesman for Romney’s 2008 caucus campaign.”
And it always seemed like, whenever the Romney people had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates,
Jonny was their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience.


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


Who benefits most from Sanford meltdown? Californian (that's right) Mitt Romney


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



8 posted on 11/06/2011 2:16:58 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That reporter Jonathan Martin is so nervous and defensive, you’d think he was the one accused of sexual harassment.


9 posted on 11/06/2011 2:21:09 PM PST by drierice
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, this Politico regular looked sour and quite uncomfortable this morning given that he and his whole gang are found not to be heroes after all, but caught instead with their britches around there ankles trying to defend a nasty case of smearing opposition research with no real there, there. Even that Kathleen Parker person redeemed herself slightly, by giving Martin flak. Rather enjoyable outcome all around wouldn’t you say? For once, no free pass on a cheap shot. Gotta be a FIRST.


10 posted on 11/06/2011 2:21:35 PM PST by RitaOK (Texas. Exhibit A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: justsaynomore

I don’t see it so much here, but what gets me on other blogs is the people lamenting (or pretending to lament) that this scandal-ette (and there are plenty of women who vouch that Herman Cain behaved himself like no less than a gentlemen in their private presence) is going to turn the USSC over to progressives and oh woe the country is lost.


11 posted on 11/06/2011 2:21:39 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Mr. Cain, people want to know. When did you stop beating your wife?"
12 posted on 11/06/2011 2:22:27 PM PST by Signalman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No There There bump...


13 posted on 11/06/2011 2:25:56 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: justsaynomore; South40

Those are Perrywinkles and Romneybots, mostly.


14 posted on 11/06/2011 2:26:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The best part about this shyster, Joel whatsisname, is that he admitted to WaPo that he doesn't have any records of the case, or even a copy of the confidentiality agreement. But he accurately "remembers" all these suggestive incriminating allegations from 12 or so years ago from a minor run-of-the mill scam-case, when Cain was not even a public figure. Right.
15 posted on 11/06/2011 2:26:26 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: justsaynomore; All
There are still people on FR defending this story (saying Cain still has to answer for something). How do you answer when you are not even sure what specifically you are accused of? It makes me SICK.

Too many people allow themselves to be led by the nose with 'breaking headlines' even when there is no story to back up the huge banners and exclamation points. Jonathan Martin is not a journalist, he is a bought and paid for sockpuppet for the 0bamunist regime, and anyone thinking that dirtbag is 'objective' or adheres to ANY sort of journalistic standards is just kidding themselves.

The leftists made a huge throw of the dice on this non-story, hoping that America would see lots of smoke (of the media's making) and not notice that there was no fire, and they didn't count on Herman Cain responding not in some slick, campaign manager's scripted and parsed answers, he answered from the gut, and if his responses didn't seem all polished and smooth, well that's a damn good thing because that alone proves that he was speaking the truth, and mostly spoke off the cuff, but Americans like that and they especially like the fact that Cain didn't back down.

Jonathan Martin is to REAL journalism what e.coli is to an all-you-can-eat buffet.

Look up Wes Pruden's excellent article on this sorry affair in the Washington Times, it's worth the read, and he nails these sorry and pathetic b@stards to the wall.
17 posted on 11/06/2011 2:27:22 PM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain, a God-fearing, Jesus-loving, Constitution-honoring PATRIOT.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell Jonathan to put some ice on it.


18 posted on 11/06/2011 2:29:35 PM PST by EDINVA (We Can't Wait, either)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jesse Jackson is being sued for sexual harrassment by a man in Chicago, from what I am told.

Media has not reported it.


19 posted on 11/06/2011 2:30:18 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: justsaynomore

Are there still people on FR defending Politico/the sexual harassment non-story? I saw a few at first, but they got beat down pretty bad [or good, depending on your POV]. I thought the rest of the smear merchants crawled under a rock and stayed there. Am I mistaken?


20 posted on 11/06/2011 2:32:12 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: mkjessup

I haven’t seen one person bring up the racism from the left.

Cain is smarter than Obama. He’s more dynamic. He has a record of success as a businessman. People are getting tired of egghead academics trying to rule the world.

What are they going to do to get rid of Cain?
With Obama’s opponent in Illinois - they had divorce records unsealed.
With Palin - they tried to plant an affair/upcoming divorce scandal.

They are trying to paint Cain as the black sexual predator = much in the way the KKK used to do to instill fear in people.


21 posted on 11/06/2011 2:33:12 PM PST by Scotswife
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If he said or did something, why can't they say what it was? As far as I'm concerned, any confidentiality agreement was breached when the whole thing was brought up.

I haven't heard any details of anything he said or did to anyone not bound by such an agreement, either.

People lie and twist things. People also get offended by a great many things which seem strange or downright silly to others. I knew a couple of females from the upper midwest (well, I'd call them "Yankees") who were offended by a waiter in a restaurant here in Texas because he asked "What will you girls have to drink this evening?"

They failed to understand that's Texan for "Can I bring you two old bags something from the bar?"

Bless their hearts. (That's Southern for "They can't help being stupid, they're not only Yankees but they're liberal as well.")

22 posted on 11/06/2011 2:33:50 PM PST by susannah59
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To: susannah59

One of the problems I have with this is something I read here yesterday. These “complaints” were filed and the money was paid out AFTER Cain had already left the NRA. Something doesn’t smell right to me.


23 posted on 11/06/2011 2:38:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Fantasywriter

Yes someone just posted to me on another thread: “And the sexual harassment stuff is still far from settled.”


24 posted on 11/06/2011 2:41:18 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Cain is being “Klined.” Recall how Phil Kline, former Kansas attorney general, went after Planned Parenthood, having uncovered evidence of PP’s aiding and abetting statutory rape of girls in Kansas. PP destroyed him, with the full cooperation of the Kansas media outlets.

Cain has discussed on national television Planned Parenthood’s racist roots, including its eugenics based plan to reduce the size of the Black community — correctly referring to PP as “Planned Genocide.” PP, again with the cooperation of the far-left, anti-life mainstream media, will be relentless at working to destroy Cain for that.

It is up to the American people whether they are allowed to succeed at that. Fortunately, more and more Americans stop taking MSM propaganda seriously all the time. Although Cain is absolutely right when he says, “Stupid people are ruining America,” I think there may be hope that the clueless will one day be a minority (consisting in large part, no doubt, of MSM journalists and their families and friends.)


25 posted on 11/06/2011 2:43:23 PM PST by ofwaihhbtn (Science is not defined as that which affirms atheistic materialism)
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To: justsaynomore

That is just unbelievable, on a conservative website. The supporters of Cain’s rivals will go to any extreme to besmirch Cain. It must frustrate and infuriate them that it’s not working.


26 posted on 11/06/2011 2:43:43 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

HERMAN SAYS to Jonny “Facts? I don’t need no stinkin’ facts!” Martin and Politico:

Excuse me..EXCUSE ME!!!


27 posted on 11/06/2011 2:49:37 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: hinckley buzzard

Whatzisname, Joel Bennett .. makes you wonder if he wasn’t the original source of the leak, based on his sketchy recollection of events 12 years ago, His memory was ‘refreshed’ when he got the NRA to give him a copy of the agreement.

The media found Bennett pretty damned fast, and seem to know who his client is, too, even tho unlike the accused, her identity is being protected. There’s a very good reason our laws require the accuser to face the accused in court. But, oh, no, not in ‘journalism.’

Bennett’s first public comments were about Cain’s possibly breaching a confidentiality agreement that he wasn’t even party to (a fact Bennett seemed to have forgotten), yet I wonder if it isn’t Bennett who violated some lawyer’s ethics rules. (yes, there really is a code of ‘ethics’ for lawyers)


28 posted on 11/06/2011 2:50:31 PM PST by EDINVA (We Can't Wait, either)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have a gesture I could give Mr. Martin. In fact, since I have two hands, I could give it to him twice.


29 posted on 11/06/2011 2:51:31 PM PST by JPG (The loons at OWS will soon be at each others throats.)
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To: Scotswife; All
What are they going to do to get rid of Cain?

THAT my dear lady, is the most frightening question of all.

We are dealing with absolute corruption and wickedness in high places, an illegitimate regime that is lawless and answers to nobody, ignores subpoenas, stonewalls the courts, engages in illegal wars, you name it, and they are violating it.

It would not surprise me one bit if the 0bamunists were silently searching for a latter day James Earl Ray, and I pray to God that Herman Cain has excellent security.

Am I suggesting that the 0bama regime is capable of murdering a candidate for political office?

You better damn well believe I'm suggesting it, because they've already knocked off an American citizen overseas without due process, and terrorist or not: that established a dangerous precedent, i.e., "who will be the so-called 'terrorists' of tomorrow?

Everyone look in the mirror, because it just might be US.
30 posted on 11/06/2011 2:52:00 PM PST by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain, a God-fearing, Jesus-loving, Constitution-honoring PATRIOT.)
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31 posted on 11/06/2011 2:52:45 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Attorney Accusing Cain Has History of Litigating Trivial Employment Cases

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/9121545/attonrey_accusing_cain_has_history.html?cat=17


32 posted on 11/06/2011 3:02:47 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: EDINVA

I speculate as well that Bennett was the original leak of this story. THE FIRST POLITICO ARTICLE SAYS POLITICO WAS SHOWN DOCUMENTS.

For me, that points to Bennett.

However, since the details of the allegations don’t say much and Bennett knows that, Bennett was looking for one or both of these outcomes:

1. If the NRA doesn’t lift the confidentiality agreement, then the story continues where everyone can accuse the NRA of protecting Cain of doing something really bad.

2. If or when NRA lifts the confidentiality agreement, pack it in and go home because it’s better then to leave it to everyone’s imagination as to what the allegations were.


33 posted on 11/06/2011 3:04:09 PM PST by PizzaTheHut
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This little snot martin has made an ass of himself in front of the entire world, but his fellow lefties are still pimping his whole non-story as though there were a “there” there.


34 posted on 11/06/2011 3:08:17 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: PizzaTheHut

Oh, the NRA DID release Bennett’s client from the confidentiality of her agreement with them. That was part of their Friday release. Bennett clammed up!


35 posted on 11/06/2011 3:10:32 PM PST by EDINVA (We Can't Wait, either)
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To: drierice

You are so right!!! Jonathan Martin is either a nervous nellie or he has a real problem, needing professional medical care. I have watched two live interviews with him this past week and noted the following. He blinks his eyes non-stop, faster then a NYC minute. His eyes bulge out of their sockets like you see in a disturbed person. He cannot string his spoken sentances to understandable meaning, indicating he is extremely nervous. And....he regularly contorts his facial features, like a person in severe stress!!!! One wonders what’s cooking inside???


36 posted on 11/06/2011 3:13:23 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: All; mkjessup; Scotswife

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37 posted on 11/06/2011 3:22:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.~Admiral Yamamoto)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

He also does not make eye contact.


38 posted on 11/06/2011 3:30:48 PM PST by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wonder why Politico didn’t investigate this??

Bottom Line
Is there any truth to the rumor about Barack Obama and Vera Baker having an affair?

I think it’s significant that NONE of the major news outlets (The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, USA Today, CNN, Fox News, ABC, NBC, etc) have chosen to even dignify this rumor by reporting on it.


39 posted on 11/06/2011 3:31:26 PM PST by vickixxxx
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To: vickixxxx

I happened to catch the show this morning. I thought that the Politico guy was trying to back off..also, Kathleen Parker did a good job defending Cain, and knocking Politico. Kurtz did a decent job..I was surprised..


40 posted on 11/06/2011 3:38:00 PM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Obama faced similar allegations, the liberal media would label the accusers opportunists and demand to know their identities. Fact is, the liberal media has no credibility, as they practice selective outrage and exist largely to protect Obama.


41 posted on 11/06/2011 3:54:35 PM PST by mandaladon (PalinGenesis)
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42 posted on 11/06/2011 3:58:36 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: EDINVA

By the way, just who is attorney Joel Bennett??? Google search shows him kissing up to Clinton/Obama, hatchet man, John Podesta!!! Anybody got the real skinny on this character???


43 posted on 11/06/2011 4:01:12 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: EDINVA

Who is footing the bill for Bennett’s services? The cient of years ago ? I don’t think so.


44 posted on 11/06/2011 4:02:09 PM PST by maranatha
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Apparently his puppet masters didn’t tell him that part of it. Thanks 2ndDivisionVet.


45 posted on 11/06/2011 4:13:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: maranatha

oh, my goodness! Bennett’s pay is the publicity! To him, worth its weight in gold. And he sure wrung it for all it was worth, didn’t he?


46 posted on 11/06/2011 4:17:32 PM PST by EDINVA (We Can't Wait, either)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Bennett’s association with Podesta seems a little odd if, as is so often written about, the Clinton group has little use for Obama and they’d rather see Hillary! give it another run. Why would their hatchet man try to help Obama? But then, again, it may have been seen as a good thing for the Dems, overall? Had it worked, of course, it would have been a good thing for them, but not necessarily helpful to Hillary! Politics just makes the strangest bedfellows!

All I “know” about Bennett is that he’s an employment specialist. At one time he represented the union of the DC police. He may still. And he’s apparently a self-appointed expert on discerning sexual harassment in the work place. Another poster pointed out that he was president of the DC Bar (actually, the Bar Association of the District of Columbia, a different entity from the DC Bar). He has been a candidate in the past for positions in the DC Bar (don’t know if he was elected or not). That points to a certain political ambition, if not electoral political ambition.


47 posted on 11/06/2011 4:36:53 PM PST by EDINVA (We Can't Wait, either)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Maybe that is because Me. Cain did nothing untoward to anyone. It was a failed media lynch job!


48 posted on 11/06/2011 4:46:21 PM PST by Paperdoll
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To: justsaynomore

I think Cain should sue their asses off (or at least threaten to.)


49 posted on 11/06/2011 4:53:34 PM PST by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem)
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To: EDINVA

Podesta has long ago moved on from the Clinton camp. He heads his own far left wing think tank group!!! They are left of the communist party. Podesta, IMHO, is tight with Obama and usually allies in lock-step with MoveOn.org. Attorney Joel Bennett is hooked in some way to Podesda, I just cannot find out the facts!!! But.....you can bet your bottom dollar that attorney, Joel Bennett is as left-wing as any human being can become!!! Will keep hunting!!!


50 posted on 11/06/2011 4:53:34 PM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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