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Parents Warned About Mail Order Chicken Pox Lollipops
Yahoo/ABC News ^ | 11/6/11 | Leezel Tanglao

Posted on 11/07/2011 10:01:35 AM PST by DemforBush

Authorities and doctors are warning parents who want to avoid chicken pox vaccines for their children that a new mail-order scheme to share lollipops licked by children infected with the disease as a way to create immunity in their kids is not only unsafe but illegal...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: chickenpox; vaccines
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To: SampleMan

As opposed to the vaccine? Absolutely. Same with the Flu btw.

Some diseases make sensible vaccines. Chickenpox is not one of them.


21 posted on 11/07/2011 10:37:53 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Adder

one of their packages busts open in the process, which is something that happens all the time, and it’s the problem of every employee in that facility, every person that has mail processed through that facility, the family of every person that works in that facility and so on. It then becomes the problem of everyone in the postal region.

So, even though it’s not random, the consequence of distributing a communicable disease through the mail has the potential to effect more people than the unknowing innocent child of the numbskull that decided to place everyone else at risk just to stick it to the evil medical-industrial complex.

Funny thing, when I was a kid, my parents tried to keep us safe, not infect us with something that could mutate and kill us.


22 posted on 11/07/2011 10:40:23 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: WKUHilltopper
I remember as a young kid people wanting to expose their young kids to mumps—because, I guess, it is better to have them at a young age.

And that was before a mumps vaccine was developed.
23 posted on 11/07/2011 10:43:28 AM PST by aruanan
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To: DemforBush

Don't forget the Chicken Pox Parties


24 posted on 11/07/2011 10:46:03 AM PST by deport
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To: newnhdad
Funny thing, when I was a kid, my parents tried to keep us safe, not infect us with something that could mutate and kill us.

When I was growing up parents would encourage exposure to chicken pox through get togethers with friends who had infected kids. This would inoculate the children who caught the disease from catching it as an adult, when chicken pox would be much more dangerous. However, the FB sharing of lolipops is just sick IMO.

25 posted on 11/07/2011 10:46:40 AM PST by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: SampleMan

Shingles in adulthood from childhood exposure to chicken pox is much rarer and usually much less severe if that exposure was through vaccination rather than an actual bout of chicken pox.


26 posted on 11/07/2011 10:52:40 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

You can also get a vaccination for Shingles to ‘re charge’ your immune system against the chicken pox virus. It is recommended for anyone 60 years or older who was exposed to chicken pox as a youth.


27 posted on 11/07/2011 10:54:09 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

http://www.news-medical.net/news/2005/09/01/12896.aspx

The vaccine is CAUSING the uptick in shingles.


28 posted on 11/07/2011 10:56:25 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: DemforBush

OMG, sometimes I marvel at the stuff FReepers will fall for just because they read it on Yahoo.

Here is a link to the Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Find-A-Pox-Party-Near-You/191922217552208?sk=wall

If one is not on FB, you probably won’t see it. However, there are a big 218 people who like this page. 218!!!!!!
Hobby Lobby has 275,693. Even the Zombie Apocalypse page has over 100,000.

People, every group has extremists. 218 people on a FB page = the extremists. FR is falling for a non-story, again.


29 posted on 11/07/2011 11:03:21 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Tax-chick
This is right up there among the dumbest things I’ve ever read on FR that didn’t involve Lindsay Lohan or Joe Biden.

Ok, that right there is funny!

Parents doing things like this not so much. I had chicken pox as a kid, caught it from my brother. (Thanks Bro!) I was uncomfortable for a few days, he was deathly ill.

Having nursed my husband through a case of the shingles I can only say I am glad my nieces will not have to endure that.

30 posted on 11/07/2011 11:03:29 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: netmilsmom
I think you are getting suckered by fake articles and a charlatan. The story you link to refers to an article by Gary Goldman, PhD. But google him and you see it is a PhD in Computer Science, and it is from a online school, not a "real" university. Also, the citation link to his article is broken. I can find no credible article in a real medical journal by a real doctor that backs up the claim that the vaccine is causing in increase in shingles.

You really need to seek out primary sources on this kind of thing..

31 posted on 11/07/2011 11:09:15 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: newnhdad
Better question would be:

" what kind of a dumb@ss parent/care giver would order these.", but THEN again they did vote for ZERO.

32 posted on 11/07/2011 11:16:33 AM PST by annieokie
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To: BenKenobi

If you read the linked thread, you’ll see how chickenpox morphs into shingles later in life for many people, and you can read the horror stories of the pain involved with that. The vaccine has not been proven to be as much of a danger as chickenpox. Lots of tin foil going on with the whole vaccine thing.


33 posted on 11/07/2011 11:18:26 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: allmendream

Not as rare as you seem to think. It’s not a rare disease. Of course, you can get a vaccination for it—but oops, that would be one of those e-vile vaccinations. Better to suffer, I guess.


34 posted on 11/07/2011 11:22:14 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: netmilsmom

Looks like a shaky source.


35 posted on 11/07/2011 11:24:50 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MrShoop

No, I think you have the wrong Gary Goldman. It’s a pretty common name.

Dr. Goldman serves as a reviewer for the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA), Vaccine, The American Journal of Managed Care (AJMC), Expert Review of Vaccines (ERV), Expert Review of Dermatology (ERD), Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology (JEADV), Epidemiology and Infection, and British Medical Journal (BMJ).


36 posted on 11/07/2011 11:26:18 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
What idiot willingly lets his kid lick a lollipop that has been licked by a kid with chicken pox or some other disease? You would have to be the most incredibly stupid parent on the face of the earth to participate in this.

I guess you have never heard of a 'chicken pox party'?

37 posted on 11/07/2011 11:27:18 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: MizSterious

And you assume I am:

1, not aware of the risks of shingles.
2, in agreement with you about the risks of the vaccine.
3, in agreement with you about the risks of chicken pox.

Calling me a ‘tinfoil’ hat, is not at all productive.

I believe vaccines should be restricted to illnesses that are:

1, lifethreatening.
2, with substantive protection factor.

Chickenpox fails on both counts, ergo, I don’t believe that chicken pox should be vaccinated. Others, if they choose to do so, are very much welcome to, but count me and my family out.


38 posted on 11/07/2011 11:29:47 AM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: BenKenobi

Chickenpox CAN be life-threatening. Idiots like this, and idiots like the selfish dolts who allow their infected children to infect everyone else are also life-threatening. I shudder to think of the people with compromised immune systems, both children and adults, who would suffer from this kind of thinking.


39 posted on 11/07/2011 11:34:39 AM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: netmilsmom
No, I definitely have the right guy. This is his own page where he claims to be a reviewer for JAMA (a claim that isn't substantiated). Frankly, just looking at his page, he has zero credibility:

http://www.drgoldmanonline.com/

You can see on this site, same photo of him, where he went to school. It isn't surprising he doesn't list his school on his own page, because I think most people would agree that paying for an online PhD program is not credible at all..

http://www.novaccine.com/gary_s_goldman.asp

40 posted on 11/07/2011 11:40:12 AM PST by Wayne07
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