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Opinion: The Case for Newt (and against Herman)
Jewish Journal ^ | 11/11/2011 | Sammy Levine

Posted on 11/13/2011 9:31:02 AM PST by katiedidit1

By now it is abundantly clear that Newt Gingrich is the best debater among the Republican Presidential Candidates. Some of Newt’s critics will grudgingly acquiesce to this fact, but still brush the legitimacy of the Gingrich candidacy aside, noting that he is an unserious candidate. However, Newt’s magnificent debating skills, his unmatched knowledge of American and political history, his tremendous command of the issues and his eloquent oratory skills should not be taken lightly

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; globalwarming; newt; newtpelosi2012; unglobaltax
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To: hosepipe

Funny!


81 posted on 11/13/2011 11:14:42 AM PST by JimInMO
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To: Lady Lucky
Those points make him eligible, not qualified.

Since the Constitution does not spell out what "qualifications" are for POTUS only "Eligibility", for this purpose both are one and the same.

"Qualified" becomes subjective and IMO Cain is qualified.

82 posted on 11/13/2011 11:22:03 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: katiedidit1

Oh really...

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justsaynomore...so you will know..I feel as if my harsh questions on Rainbow Push have been resolved. I have my big toe on the Cain Train. Still concerned about the 9% national sales tax...otherwise...I do like Cain.

21 posted on 10/21/2011 10:36:23 AM PDT by katiedidit1
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http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2796102/replies?c=1


83 posted on 11/13/2011 11:22:19 AM PST by justsaynomore (http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Since the Constitution does not spell out what "qualifications" are for POTUS only "Eligibility", for this purpose both are one and the same. "Qualified" becomes subjective and IMO Cain is qualified.

Then you will vote for him. I take it you're eligible to vote...

84 posted on 11/13/2011 11:31:34 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: hosepipe

Somehow, I doubt that is what he meant.


85 posted on 11/13/2011 11:31:55 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in.)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

[ Somehow, I doubt that is what he meant.]

True.. but having “been there”... during those times.. thats is what it appeared to be..
There were a few “fairly” conservative democrats, very few...
but there were some..


86 posted on 11/13/2011 12:01:32 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: JimInMO

Sorry, Hosepipe, my bad. I meant that to go to:

To: 353FMG

True.. I like Bolton BUT the boy is just not sneaky enough to deal with democrats..


87 posted on 11/13/2011 12:22:11 PM PST by JimInMO
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To: AnAmericanMother

You have to scroll down to where Cain says, “Newt, YOU go first” here is the video and transcript.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/CainNew

TRANSCRIPT

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00:00:081 min.

Unidentified Speaker

TO TEA PARTIES AND OTHER GRASS- OUR [APPLAUSE] OF ENTITLEMENTS? HE IS THE TEXAS CHAIRMAN FOR THESE CANDIDATES DEMONSTRATE E WITH THIS DEBATE FORMAT AND...

00:01:1840 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. THANK YOU LADIES AND OK. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES INTO TONIGHT. THIS EVENING, TWO AND TALKING TO EACH OTHER, WHICH OF APPLAUSE. GEORGIA....

00:02:2524 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

THANK YOU. LET’S THROW OUR HANDS UP ONE THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MORE TIME LIKE THIS.

00:02:422 min.

Unidentified Speaker

THIS IS THE SECOND EVENTS FOR THE CANDIDATES WILL HAVE THREE PAUL RYAN’S PLAN. CONSERVATIVE. BEFORE WE PROCEED AND BEGIN PROGRAMS CRISIS AND ENTITLEMENT...

00:05:115 min.

Unidentified Speaker

THE HISTORICAL AMOUNT THE IS ONE THE DEMOCRATS PUT OVER RED LINE AND THE BASELINE THAT. THE FIRST ENTITLEMENT THIS ACT GOES AROUND THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONSERVATIVES...

00:15:0645 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

THANK YOU CONGRESSMAN KING HAPPENS IF WE IMPLEMENT THE SO GENTLEMAN, TONIGHT’S FIRST THE RYAN PLAN. GROWTH OF MEDICARE. ALTERNATIVE. KNOW IS EXPLAIN WHAT...

00:15:444 min.

Unidentified Speaker

CAN YOU HEAR ME? AMERICANS INTO A PREMIUM WHERE THE MARKETPLACE RAPIDLY OF US ON OBAMA CARE SAYING YOU NEED IS SO LARGE IT WILL TAKE PAYING THE CROOKS....

00:19:331 min.

Unidentified Speaker

DOCTORS, GO TO THE PATIENTS. AND WE WILL SPEND IT BETTER. GODFATHER’S PIZZA AS PRESIDENT INFLATION. THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN RIGHT. BUT THERE IS A FUNDAMENTAL...

00:23:181 min.

Unidentified Speaker

FEEL FREE TO POSE QUESTIONS TO CAN WE REALLY SOLVE THE IRRESPECTIVE OF ECONOMIC LET ME START YOU OFF. THE HEALTH CARE COST PROBLEM? CLOCK. THEY SEEM TO...

00:24:161 min.

Unidentified Speaker

IT IS IMPOSSIBLE. CENTER ASSOCIATION TODAY IT HAD UP THE COST OF MALPRACTICE CARE COST PROBLEM WE MUST USE MARKET-DRIVEN IDEAS SUCH AS YOU CAN’T DO THAT...

00:26:3520 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

INSURANCE PROBLEM OR MEDICAL PROBLEM? SERVICE PROVIDER COST INCREASE

00:26:442 min.

Unidentified Speaker

ANYBODY PREDICTED A YEAR AGO COMMON SENSE IS SUCH A RADICAL IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT REAL THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE PROBLEM. CHEATING. YOU GIVE THEM...

00:31:0515 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

QUESTION. CONGRESSMAN KING HAS A

00:31:1253 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

IF WE CAN’T GET THERE FAST ROLL IT INTO A LIFE MANAGEMENT HOW DO YOU GET PEOPLE OFF THE CLIFF THE HARDEST QUESTIONS THE SOLUTIONS ON TO SOMEONE YOU ARE...

00:31:561 min.

Unidentified Speaker

WORKERS, IF THEY TAKE THAT IT IS YOUR MONEY, THAT IS HOW OLDER OR ALREADY ON MEDICARE YOU WOULD HAVE TO BUY A THEY TREAT IT LIKE IT IS THEIR ACCEPTING...

00:33:311 min.

Unidentified Speaker

CURRENT LEON MEDICARE WHO THIS. TECHNOLOGY AND APPLYING IT TO THE CURRENT MEDICARE RULE IS THE ANSWER CONSISTENTLY IN TO DECIDE BEFORE YOU IMPOSE ANY DAYS....

00:36:0530 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

BEFORE WE LEAVE THE MEDICARE PLAN OR PREMIUM SUPPORT. DISCUSSION, DEFINE THE BENEFIT

00:36:2215 sec.

Unidentified Speaker

YOU GO FIRST, NEWT.

00:36:252 min.

Unidentified Speaker


88 posted on 11/13/2011 12:28:12 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

“Cain was asked about “defined benefit plans” with regards to Medicare, and passed the question to Newt, as he clearly had no idea what the moderator was asking. Everyone laughed it off, but really? “

Goodness, I hadn’t heard this. If Perry had done this he’d be skewered.


89 posted on 11/13/2011 12:28:44 PM PST by independent in tx
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To: independent in tx

Everytime the Perry supporters or Newt supporters post anything on this forum they are attacked by the Cainiacs. I bet the Perry and Newt folks would endorse either candidate if it comes to that...but will the Cain voters stay home? they hit and spin and attack. Nasty bunch of people imo...at least most that I have come across on fr and I mean in regards to anyone but CAIN


90 posted on 11/13/2011 12:32:40 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1
The moderators pointed out later that they had agreed Newt would go first in that segment. Cain went first in the previous one, which is probbly why he started to answer.

I wish instead of sniping at Cain, you would answer questions about Newt. He was my Congressman, and I'm very concerned about his bad habit of talking a good game and then backing down. What say you?

And as for Cain being a democrat in the past . . . he and just about everybody in the South who is his age or older. It took me til Reagan, but seeing how much harder it is for a black person to make the change, that doesn't concern me.

His lack of foreign policy experience does, but it doesn't matter how knowledgeable someone is if he has no principles. Cain has principles, and he can learn about foreign policy. You can't learn principles or courage, and Newt has neither.

91 posted on 11/13/2011 12:36:26 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: RasterMaster

You need to add “Princess” to that Nancy. :)


92 posted on 11/13/2011 12:39:35 PM PST by Politicalmom (Cain.)
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To: justsaynomore

You agree with Cain that there should be MORE tenant control of HUD housing? excuse me but taxpayers have spent a ton of money on housing redevelopment, attractive projects and even independent hud homes. The tenants are the ones that have destroyed them. Hand up? yes, but take a little pride where you live and quit blaming a “lack of incentive” IMO IF you live in government housing..screening should be intense and if you destroy it..you should be kicked out ASAP and be held responsible for damages. AS for Rainbow Push Coalition they are a treacherous organization..period.


93 posted on 11/13/2011 12:40:02 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Politicalmom

He meant to say “Princess Gloria”


94 posted on 11/13/2011 12:41:25 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: JimInMO

It’s really considered bad form to join FR and start attacking FReepers a day later.


95 posted on 11/13/2011 12:42:35 PM PST by Politicalmom (Cain.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

You are not listening to the actual debate...Cain asked Newt to take the question first not because of any pre agreement


96 posted on 11/13/2011 12:43:12 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

You’re a nasty, vile piece of work. I’m already skipping all your posts, and I certainly won’t be reading any more bile you post to me, either.

I’ll take a classy, quiet, loyal, unassuming wife and mother, Democrat or not, over a fake, grasping, adulterous homewrecker any day.


97 posted on 11/13/2011 12:46:44 PM PST by Politicalmom (Cain.)
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To: AnAmericanMother

The MOST important duty of our president is to serve as Commander in Chief. I do not want a man in charge of our foreign policy in a learn as you go leader. Times are way too dangerous. AS for Newt’s baggage..it is in the past..happened years ago and his daughter wrote a letter that you may google online. It is what he does now that matters EVERYONE has skeletons and I am thankful to what Newt did when he served as speaker of the house. America had the first balanced budget ammendment since 1969. The govt did shut down but Newt remained firm. He was also responsible for the gop revolution. On the other hand...I dont like Cain’s 999 or his 909 plan. I didn’t like his response in one of the debates that it is politician who could raise the taxes or change the plan...well, that is what worries me. I do not trust the feds to keep it at 999 and I dont like to pay an additional 9% sales tax on everything I buy ...gasoline, groceries, clothes, etc We live on a fixed income and in a county where our sales taxes are already high...this would be awful. As for the south I know there were the old dixiecrats and many of them were racists...I never understood why the blacks voted democrat...example..Watkins Abbott of VA fought against school integration in Prince Edward Co...but guess who the blacks voted for when he ran against the republicans? the same man that was an oppressor!! it was Eisenhower that ordered the national guard to escort black students into the schools in Little Rock and it is all brainwashing by black liberal leaders such as Jesse Jackson and Sharpton that keep blacks voting black. I do NOT WANT A democrat first lady in the white house again....we have been there done that with hillary and michelle...I do not feel comfortable with Cain joining the gop and still donating money to dem candidates for “personal and business” reasons. I have watched the debates and all the candidates and I also prefer Newts tax plan. I am sticking with Newt. BTW I grew up in the south and know what it was like..those days are over now and I give credit to republicans more than democrats


98 posted on 11/13/2011 12:57:20 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

Is that all you’ve got? His wife is a democrat and she “probably” is in lockstep with Pelosi. Since when is probably a fact? I’m not voting for his wife and his wife has not been directly involved in his campaign so far. We’ve had more than enough crap from career politicians in both parties. Would I vote for Newt if he were the nominee? Absolutely, but I don’t think he could win. The accusations against Cain come when he is rising in the polls and considered to be a threat. Newt is moving up as well but I doubt that he will receive the same treatment for his documented and admitted indiscretions because both the other RINOs in the race as well as the democrats don’t see him as a threat. He is already bought and paid for. Cain is the true conservative candidate.


99 posted on 11/13/2011 12:59:14 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: RJS1950

Cain is not the true conservative in my book. You don’t think first ladies play a role? look at Hillary, Michelle..and yes, guarantee you Gloria is a big supporter of both. Cain gave money to dems while he was a republican and you call him conservative?
The Cain supporters have fits when anyone post anything on their candidate. I support Newt and he would tear Obama to shreds in a debate and win


100 posted on 11/13/2011 1:02:59 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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