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Cain Supports Collective Bargaining for Public Unions?
Townhall ^ | 11-14-2011 | Kate Pavlich

Posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Herman Cain said he supports the "right" for public employees to bargain collectively. In other words, he is in favor of unions on the taxpayer dime. Cain also said federal workers have unions, meaning the right to collectively bargain, but they do not.

On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.

"But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it's going to bankrupt the state, I don't think that's good. It appears that in some instances, they really don't care."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bargaincollectively; cain; cain4unions; collective; collectivebargaining; hermaincain; unions
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To: TBBT

>> When public sector collective bargaining is in play, and especially when Democrats are in power, there is nobody sitting across the table representing the interest of the taxpayer. >>

YEP, a point made in this article in fact:
http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/02/end_public_sector_unionsperiod.html


41 posted on 11/14/2011 7:42:36 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: ontap
There aren't as many as before, but you're right, they are there waiting for someone to make a foolish move then they'll start it all up again just like before.

That's why it's necessary to keep federal employee organizational activities open and above board. If you drive that underground you'll get Commies.

42 posted on 11/14/2011 7:42:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You are the puke who started name calling when you lost ~ BIG ~ face it you’ve got nothing puke ~ you said “Troll”.


43 posted on 11/14/2011 7:44:23 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You talking to me ..magwa..I'm a retired Social Studies teacher and if there is any ignorance going on here it's you.
44 posted on 11/14/2011 7:46:59 PM PST by ontap
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To: ontap
Personal attacks are prohibited in FR. That includes your variation on a name you can easily C&P.

Your attempt to flash an alleged credential so we can just forget about the Communist threat of the last several decades is truly pitiful.

46 posted on 11/14/2011 7:51:49 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
You must be on something if you believe federal unions are open and above board...they are the corruptest of the corrupt. They should not exist they are communist to the bone!!!
47 posted on 11/14/2011 7:52:23 PM PST by ontap
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To: muawiyah
If you look at people who are currently or have recently been union leaders (Richard Trumka and Andy Stern), it appears that union leadership has again come under the control of the far, far left. I don't know if they are communists, but they're the next thing.
48 posted on 11/14/2011 7:54:42 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: C. Edmund Wright
No, you understand nothing. You are trying to cite FDR Bullsh*t against later FDR Presidential executive orders.

Just won't work. Lots of things happened. Joe Stalin (i'm sure you remember him ~ probably even have his picture nailed above the head of your bed) made a big push to inbed his Communist followers in the US government and it wasn't just at higher levels as appointees in State Department, etc.

He had low level folks infiltrate every agency including the Post Office Department as clerks, warehouse workers, whatever it took. He had Communist party union organizers working in the federal government. By 1941 we were at war with the Axis.

You people want to just forget Joe Stalin, WWII, the whole deal.

Ronald Reagan would have spit you out.

49 posted on 11/14/2011 7:55:27 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: bwc2221; ontap

you’ll have to excuse muahiyah - she worked in the post office for 38 years, so she brings a real skewed point of view to this debate. Apparently wrote work place rules for the post office for 38 years. That would fry anyone’s brain not to mention insulating them from any whiff of the real world.


50 posted on 11/14/2011 7:57:26 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2011/11/14/videos_cain_self-destructs_on_libya,_unions

very disturbing - the Union take over of America is what obumbles promised the unions.

WE don’t need this ‘dream’ carried on: “SEIU! SEIU! SEIU!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQj-xBH30-I&feature=related

This is no small matter.


51 posted on 11/14/2011 7:58:20 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: muawiyah

Your 38 years of being a US Postal Worker bureaucrat has impeded your ability to make any sort of logical connection to reality.


52 posted on 11/14/2011 7:58:42 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: bwc2221
Trumka may, in fact, be a murderer. Stern is pretty much a thug ~ more in line with the Mafia model than the traditional Commie bunch, but still a thug.

They got where they are the old fashioned way ~ fear, intimidation, beatings, stolen elections, bribes.....

Time for a clean up, and if the FBI can't do it, somebody else will have to. Wonder where we can find patriotic red-blooded Americans to do that job?

Townhall perhaps? The TEA Party? Maybe the RNC national committee?

What about from the ranks of union members dissatisifed with what's going on. That's what FDR did. It worked. Time to do it again if we can get these anti-union jerkoffs out of the way. They'd rather have underground labor agitation replete with Commies than something more useful and normal.

The choice is you believe in American values and American rights or you don't.

53 posted on 11/14/2011 7:59:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah; C. Edmund Wright
The choice was to allow a Communist takeover of federal unions or an American takeover of federal unions.

While the concern and activities you reference occurred roughly as you relate, do you hold that they were successful and in fact removed communist influence from American labor unions or even public employee unions only?

From my considerable experience with unions since the 1960's, I would testify that the effort to rid unions of communists was no more than 50% successful at best.

54 posted on 11/14/2011 7:59:53 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

My statement above on public sector collective bargaining is pretty definitive in my view... Once you understand that statement - there is no logical justification for public sector unions...

I’m familiar with FDR’s view on the subject. Not a crazy fan of him, but I’m in alignment with him on this subject...

Flame away...


55 posted on 11/14/2011 8:00:32 PM PST by TBBT
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To: muawiyah
You really have no idea what you are talking about. Ignorance of American history is no excuse for anyone ~ not you, not your funny little friends, not your buddy Obama and his running dog lackeys

You can post this and then have the nerve to complain about personal attacks. You really are a piece of work. And by the way I am a retired Social Studies teacher and you are the one who is clueless. The last time I looked Obama was for you union lackeys!

56 posted on 11/14/2011 8:01:02 PM PST by ontap
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To: smoothsailing

Man, you’re dangerous! :D How about posting a warning first? LOL!


57 posted on 11/14/2011 8:01:21 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Doesn’t surprise me one bit. He wants that UNION Label.


58 posted on 11/14/2011 8:01:56 PM PST by marty60
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To: Navy Patriot

You make a good point - of course it would be ridiculous to think that the communists were eradicated and of course it would be naive not to look at the SEIU of today and not see that they are still communist statist radicals even if they were at one time eradicated.

Besides, there is no way in hell to make the case that to be anti government union is the same thing as being pro communist, as this 38 year veteran of the Post Office wants us to believe.


59 posted on 11/14/2011 8:02:35 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: muawiyah

why don’t you two take it to the “private’ box - geeze


60 posted on 11/14/2011 8:03:00 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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