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Cain Supports Collective Bargaining for Public Unions?
Townhall ^ | 11-14-2011 | Kate Pavlich

Posted on 11/14/2011 6:58:25 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright

In an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Herman Cain said he supports the "right" for public employees to bargain collectively. In other words, he is in favor of unions on the taxpayer dime. Cain also said federal workers have unions, meaning the right to collectively bargain, but they do not.

On the issue of collective bargaining, Cain said he supported the right of public employees to bargain collectively.

"But not collective hijacking. What I mean by that, if they have gotten so much for so many years and it's going to bankrupt the state, I don't think that's good. It appears that in some instances, they really don't care."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bargaincollectively; cain; cain4unions; collective; collectivebargaining; hermaincain; unions
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To: muawiyah

Good comeback. Not.

What I read is your insult followed by your invocation of the personal-attacks rule (in response to what was a far MILDER attack than YOURS which preceded it).

Is “flaming hypocrite” a personal attack?

Because you’re a retired postal employee union-eer, I’ll add: That’s a rhetorical question.

Nice NOT knowin’ ya.


81 posted on 11/14/2011 8:32:12 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Theo

Watched what?


82 posted on 11/14/2011 8:33:04 PM PST by TBBT
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I was interested in Cain at first, but he has continually shown that he is not ready for primetime.

There's also a video today of him showing his awful grasp of current events / foreign affairs:

Brutal: Cain blanks on Libya, supports collective bargaining for public employee unions

83 posted on 11/14/2011 8:34:20 PM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: muawiyah

No I didn’t ..can you count?


84 posted on 11/14/2011 8:40:23 PM PST by ontap
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To: reformedliberal
The big push back against the Commies in the government started about 1942.

We'd had two years of close contact with the USSR at the time (sending them food, ammunition and vehicles for the war) and Stalin's guys decided we were probably an unreliable ally so they began the big push to get their domestic Communist allies into the government to insure we stayed in the war.

This more recent business of pulling out of VietNam, Iraq, etc. before completion of the task at hand is not new in this country, and the Russians didn't wish to be eradicated by the Germans, nor did the Commies want to have to turn into Nazis (or go to the oven factories for reassembly into constituent atoms).

Next thing you know the US government had Communist union organizers organizing!

Roosevelt had a stark choice ~ give in to the American union organizers (from the AFL/CIO movement) or find himself answering to Communist dominated unions.

Stalin was pretty thorough. He had control of people like I.F.Stone for example. I.F.Stone managed to keep Communists in the US fully informed regarding Politboro positions on everything. People like David Axelrod's mother worked for I.F.Stone.

He grew up under the tutelage of a mother who was part of Joe Stalin's Communist Party propaganda and internal US communication apparatus.

That stuff continued on after the end of WWII.

There are people here who want you to FORGET what went on in the dark days of WWII. You'd better believe Obama and his Leftwingtard lieutenants want you to give up your concern over Communist infiltration of the federal workforce.

85 posted on 11/14/2011 8:41:14 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

They were threating to strike when Reagan fired the air traffic controlers.


86 posted on 11/14/2011 8:42:14 PM PST by ontap
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To: WriteOn

How ironic that you write “truth” when you are such a liar.


87 posted on 11/14/2011 8:45:00 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: dagogo redux

Take a good look at #2. You might imagine that’s directed at factory only unions, company sponsored unions, small locals in specialty trades ~ but it was originally designed to allow more socially acceptable unions to kick out the Wobblies and a wide variety of Anarchist groups pretending to be unions (remarkably like the “Occupy WS” groups today).


88 posted on 11/14/2011 8:45:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Maceman

I still support him 100 percent. He says he supports the “RIGHT” for them to make fools of themselves. I agree. Who cares. We could not have had a better outlook on this. I say let them continue making fools of themselves until November 2012. I love it. Killing each other, getting arrested, making a mess, getting kicked out of places, stinking up the place. I love it!!!!!


89 posted on 11/14/2011 8:47:05 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: smoothsailing

lol!


90 posted on 11/14/2011 8:47:05 PM PST by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9)
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To: muawiyah
I have no doubt that there are still Commies in the government

Good, we agree.

It didn't take the Commies long to figure out they'd never take America by confrontation and force, their only hope was stealth, sabotage, agitation, dissatisfaction, and dissent. Communism was already establishing such a poor record that the news of it had to be suppressed, and communism had to disappear.

So the overt commies did just that, and their covert compatriots stayed right where they were and sabotaged away.

They have been incredibly successful, so much that most commies nowadays don't even know that they are commies.

Got doubts? Consider the fact that every environmentalist/climate change/cap and taxer is a commie tool or a covert commie working toward the confiscation by regulation of all private property. Environmental concerns are just a ruse, and the Alinsky method is always employed to create the crisis need for Marxist solutions that are never properly called "Marxist".

Certainly all unions need close scrutiny for communist infiltration, most especially public employee unions, and even if found to be clean, public employee unions should be forbidden by law from collective bargaining on monetary issues as their employers have no barganing rights at all.

91 posted on 11/14/2011 8:48:53 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: ontap
Who threatened to strike?

You mean the strikers who got fired? Not everybody went on strike. Not everybody got fired. PATCO got decertified too.

Federal employees have no right to strike.

92 posted on 11/14/2011 8:49:08 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pogo101
I said "ignorance of history" and we can certainly include in the crowd of folks who are suffering from "ignorance of history" Barack Obama!

That is not name calling ~ I didn't call him ignorant, but if you want to, you are free to do that.

BTW, "ignorance" is remediable. Stupidity is different.

93 posted on 11/14/2011 8:51:30 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Navy Patriot
Extending collective bargaining rights to USPS employees, and the establishment of the Independent Postal Rate Commission, took the battle over Postage Rates and Postal Pay out of the hands of Congress.

There were NO COMPLAINTS.

The Post Office department could create difficulties that could tie up most of Congress for months at a time ~ with NO WINNERS.

Be careful what you ask for.

94 posted on 11/14/2011 8:54:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeafoodGumbo
Short of thermonuclear annihilation just what is our position on Libya?
95 posted on 11/14/2011 8:56:34 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Short of thermonuclear annihilation just what is our position on Libya?

Current US position: support the rebels against Khaddafy.

96 posted on 11/14/2011 9:10:00 PM PST by SeafoodGumbo
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To: SeafoodGumbo

That’s hardly a policy. Or at least not a relevant one.


97 posted on 11/14/2011 9:12:47 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
There were NO COMPLAINTS.

From who, I certainly heard a lot from my fellow citizens, and I seem to remember the term "going postal" having a specific origin.

I think we are going to fail to agree on whom should be directing a Constitutional agency, the people, or the union execs.

98 posted on 11/14/2011 9:14:22 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: muawiyah

Public sector unions have caused much of the fiscal crisis and bankruptcy problems for European countries and yet you and Cain think public sector unions are ok?

It is a major philophical deviation from conservative view points and you lame reference to FDR etc doesn’t wash.


99 posted on 11/14/2011 9:21:24 PM PST by GregH
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To: maine-iac7
Cain calls the unions the devil? That's it! He really IS politically suicidal.

As nominee, the question becomes how many GOP House & Senate seats does he take down with him.

More and more it looks like this Emperor has No Clothes.

100 posted on 11/14/2011 9:36:17 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama and Speaker Pelosi.)
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