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Newt will never, ever be GOP nominee
Washington Post ^ | 11/15/2011 | Jonathan Bernstein

Posted on 11/15/2011 10:33:39 AM PST by presidio9

Yes, Newt Gingrich has spiked in the polls. No, he’s not going to be the nominee. I’ve been trying to duck this one because it feels like laying out the obvious, but, briefly, three reasons:

1. The baggage he’s always had — the marital difficulties, the ethics troubles, a whole bunch of deviations from conservative orthodoxy over the years (such as that ad he shot with Nancy Pelosi: “Our country must take action to address climate change”) — just isn’t going to go away. Republican voters don’t have those things in mind at the moment, but no candidate is more vulnerable to attack ads than the former Speaker.

2. Message discipline, lack thereof. It’s impossible to imagine Newt not saying something that hurts him if there’s a microphone in front of his face for a three-week stretch, which is what wouldgoing to happen if the press decides he actually has a chance at winning this thing. We have a couple decades of evidence, including earlier this year, showing that he’s just not able to do it. For whatever it’s worth, I’d add that as I read the polling over the years, Newt’s basic act is unlikely to wear well with voters after extended exposure. People just don’t like the guy.

3. Both of those might be overcome, but this one won’t: it’s highly unlikely that anyone who worked with Newt Gingrich when he was Speaker would want him anywhere near the White House. As detailed in many places, but perhaps most memorably by David Maraniss and Michael Weisskopf in their

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To: jessduntno
Yeah, we conservatives who don't want another RINO turd as our nominee are just plain wrong.

Thanks for the enlightenment.

61 posted on 11/15/2011 11:02:40 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: Ingtar

As governor, Reagan was the biggest California spender of the last half century. Under him, state spending leaped 177%.

His first year as governor, Reagan raised taxes equal to 30% of the state general fund, still a modern record. And as president, he increased taxes several times, although conservatives pretend to remember only the one big tax cut.

As governor, Reagan protected the spectacular John Muir Trail in the Sierra from highway builders and Central Valley business interests.

He blocked dam building on the Eel and Feather rivers. He and Republican Gov. Paul Laxalt of Nevada set aside their aversion to centralized, intrusive government and created a bi-state agency to control growth at Lake Tahoe.

Reagan signed legislation creating the California Air Resources Board, leading to the nation’s first tailpipe emissions standards.

As governor, Reagan signed the nation’s then most liberal abortion rights bill. (He later called it a mistake.) He opposed a ballot initiative that would have permitted the firing of teachers for being gay.

President Reagan signed a bill granting amnesty to illegal immigrants.


62 posted on 11/15/2011 11:03:45 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: presidio9

Newt Gingrich is the only credible candidate the Republicans could run.

I would personally like to see a Gingrich-Bachman ticket.

Just say “NO” to the “Nuke Newt” crowd!


63 posted on 11/15/2011 11:03:54 AM PST by Sir Lurks Alot
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To: TFMcGuire
Wrong, newt just happen to get there when Rush and talk radio arrived. Talk radio won the house, newts national name id was about the same as a newt, the lizard. I know, and I watch newt on c span back in those days and newt has the same old worn speeches today as he had back then,
64 posted on 11/15/2011 11:05:47 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: presidio9

Excellent post at #1. What part of it is Dick Morris and what part of it is you?


65 posted on 11/15/2011 11:06:37 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: presidio9
It suprises me how many people on this website are not aware of the actual stories? This type of group psychology in popular folklore is how Paul Bunyan ended up a giant with a blue ox.

Yes, there are some here who listen to unsubstantiated rumors without doing their own homework.

Then there are the feeble minded morons, forever chanting the simplistic "baggage" mantra:


66 posted on 11/15/2011 11:07:14 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Ingtar
The Department of Education was set up by, you guessed it, Newt.

The Department of Education was set up in 1979. It is true that Newt Gingrich was a freshman congressman that year, but since Jimmy Carter was president, I call BS on that one. Newt was one of the earliest advocates of vouchers, homeschooling, charter schools and school prayer. He has consistently called for LOWER federal spending on education and for teacher accountability.

Newt believes that cuts to social programs, necessary to get things under control, are simply “Right-wing social engineering”.

Again, Newt is the only candidate who can credibly state that he has achieved entitlement reform.

Newt is in favor of ethanol.

Which will get him votes in swing states. Congress will decide what to actually do about ethanol.

He has teamed up with Nancy Pelosi and with Al Sharpton to push the liberal agenda.

Exactly what took place there? Do you even know? Do you know what he says about it now?

67 posted on 11/15/2011 11:07:23 AM PST by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Sir Lurks Alot
So you support more government and amnesty. Well just say so.
68 posted on 11/15/2011 11:07:26 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: jessduntno

“He blocked dam building on the Eel and Feather rivers.”

I hate to burst your bubble, by my father was a foreman on the dam built on the Feather River by Oreville, CA. At least that one dam was built. That was in 1960 - 1961.


69 posted on 11/15/2011 11:08:07 AM PST by Crazy ole coot (Mr. obama (the squatter in the White House) is Not a Natural Born Citizen!!)
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To: South40

“Yeah, we conservatives who don’t want another RINO turd as our nominee are just plain wrong.”

Not wrong..dumb as shit. Four more years for Obama ought to fix them real good. You show em, Sparky.


70 posted on 11/15/2011 11:08:13 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: presidio9

Pelosi is a bigger problem for Newt’s chances than his marriages.

I like Newt’s brains, but I trust Cain’s instincts a whole lot more...


71 posted on 11/15/2011 11:08:36 AM PST by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: samtheman

Circular firing squad


72 posted on 11/15/2011 11:09:06 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks.


73 posted on 11/15/2011 11:10:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: jessduntno
All history, want to try the Gettysburg address next.
74 posted on 11/15/2011 11:10:33 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cobra64

Baggage and his current wife. I swear she is embalmed alive.


76 posted on 11/15/2011 11:10:59 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: org.whodat

What will you do if Palin endorse him?

I sort of tongue in check suggested that Newt would ask Palin to be VP on his ticket, and heads exploded.


77 posted on 11/15/2011 11:11:45 AM PST by itsahoot (There was a bloodless coup in 08, and no one seemed to notice. God help us.)
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To: Crazy ole coot

Only one dam to a river?

Lake Oroville was born Nov. 14, 1967, when the second of two diversion tunnels that had carried the Feather River beneath the embankment during construction was blocked.


78 posted on 11/15/2011 11:11:54 AM PST by jessduntno ("They say the world has become too complex for simple answers... they are wrong." - RR)
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To: andy58-in-nh

I want to congratulate all the Freepers bouncing from one candidate to another. The lib press and democrats don’t know who to slime and smear next.

Thanks Freepers for that cool strategy and making them play Whack-a-Mole.

I wonder how a President Gingrich would work with the Republican Congressional leadership. I think there were some burned bridges that might be hard to re-cross.

As much as I like Cain, I’m worried that with his political inexperience our party would lead him around much like Pelosi did Obama. But I kinda think he is stronger than that.


79 posted on 11/15/2011 11:12:40 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: jessduntno
Not wrong..dumb as shit.

Dumb as shit is your forte.

80 posted on 11/15/2011 11:13:06 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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