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Will 'New Newt' prevail? (Will he make a comeback like Nixon in 1968?)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/17/2011 | Doyle McManus

Posted on 11/17/2011 6:43:59 PM PST by SeekAndFind

When Richard M. Nixon ran for the Republican presidential nomination in 1968, he faced a daunting problem: A lot of voters just didn't like him. Nixon had made his name in politics as an angry, partisan hatchet man, famous for lashing out against Democrats and the news media. To win the presidency, he needed to find a way to soften that too-harsh image.

In the months before the 1968 primaries, Nixon's campaign staged gauzy television segments that showed the candidate gently answering questions from ordinary citizens, not pesky reporters. In a nation that was divided by domestic crises and the war in Vietnam, Nixon stressed positive themes and "the lift of a driving dream." Reporters wrote about a "New Nixon" and voters who were rallying to his cause.

Now, almost half a century later, another not-always-lovable conservative is trying to stage a similar comeback: Newt Gingrich. This week's polls show Gingrich, whose candidacy was once given up for dead, in a virtual tie with former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.

Part of the reason, as Gingrich himself says, is simple process of elimination: Conservative voters have tried out a succession of other candidates — Tim Pawlenty, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, Herman Cain — and found each wanting.

But there's another reason for Gingrich's rise: He doesn't sound as angry as he once did. We appear to be witnessing "New Newt."

Old Newt — Angry Newt, the one who entered the presidential campaign last spring — talked in apocalyptic terms about threats to American culture. Old Newt wrote about "a secular-socialist machine" led by the Democratic Party that "represents as great a threat to America as Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union once did."

"If we do not decisively win the struggle over the nature of America," he warned,

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gingrich; newt; nixon
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To: hinckley buzzard

Meaning what, hinckley? Someone comes out from under a rock shoots from a keyboard and calls me a ‘lefty’ for saying I don’t trust romney or newt makes that person a class a jerk. Period.
Do YOU trust romney and newt?
Actually, I don’t ‘trust’ any of them, but those two even less.


41 posted on 11/17/2011 7:44:21 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: samtheman
I think the Churchill comparison is more apt.

Churchill didn't quit when he became a voice in the wilderness, Newt did.

42 posted on 11/17/2011 7:47:15 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: fightinJAG
How can Newt give a “Checkers” speech when Callista wears $45,000 necklaces from Tiffany’s? LOL

Your class envy is pathetic. Just think--if you were as smart as Newt and had accomplished 1% of what he has accomplished, you could afford to buy your wife a pricey trinket too.

Sorry you just can't cut the mustard like Newt can.

43 posted on 11/17/2011 7:47:55 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dfwgator

No comparison is perfect, just as no person is, or was, including (and especially, Churchill).

If you think Churchill was flawless you don’t know history.

If you think Newt’s flaws are deal-breakers, you’re not paying attention.


44 posted on 11/17/2011 7:50:41 PM PST by samtheman
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To: MestaMachine
Meaning, if the shoe fits, put 'em both on.
45 posted on 11/17/2011 7:50:54 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: dfwgator
Churchill didn't have to quit. He got thrown out by the brilliant socialist brits. You eleven year-old twits have to grow up and realize that sometimes, knowing when it is time to go, is not a moral failing but a virtue. We had the same nauseating stupidity (still do occasionally) with respect to Sarah Palin. Idiot prepubertal children were so upset when she resigned the governor's chair they just couldn't hold their water. Some still can't. Pathetic.
46 posted on 11/17/2011 7:56:01 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: fightinJAG
I like Newt and right now I think he may be the last best chance to stop Romney. However, I'm not a Cult follower and will criticize any candidate when I see fault. One thing in that article that I don't much care for is this:

New Newt is conciliatory, even bipartisan. In several debates, he's refused to criticize his rivals and has scolded moderators for — gasp! — trying to accentuate their differences. As president, he told voters in Iowa, one his first acts would be to reach out to Democrats.

"It's become much too partisan in both parties," said the man who has been accused of destroying the bipartisan tradition in the House of Representatives.


I'm not down with this notion on reaching out to Democrats. I'm more in the Rush camp on this. I think that the Democrats have shown that they can't in good faith be worked or negotiated with. It's fool-hardy to try to reach out to them. Instead, the only rational view left is that they must simply be defeated. This smacks of trying to court moderates. The cost benefit analysis doesn't pan out in my view. I believe that this risk alienating far more conservatives than what moderates it might woo. My hope is that Newt doesn't start trumpeting this. I can only see that this tack will be damaging if he does.

About cult followings... I see a lot of stuff here and elsewhere that borders on it. This is a choice about politicians not saints. Being a fanatic sports fan can be admirable, especially when you teams sucks (re. Colts). There's something to be said about home town pride and all that. But, some of these folks that continue to cling to hopeless candidates is something else. They're politicians... That's all.
47 posted on 11/17/2011 7:56:11 PM PST by TBBT
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To: hinckley buzzard

I was referring to 1934, when Churchill was ostracized by his own party for speaking out against Nazi Germany. He didn’t quit Parliament, and go into the private sector, where he could have made a lot of money, even though he had lost a lot of money in the Stock Market Crash. He kept speaking out until history proved him right.


48 posted on 11/17/2011 7:59:43 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

I would say, “Same to you,” but you are too busy chewing on your feet to try them on. Get a life...or is THIS your life? Playing keyboard cowboy with a bad aim and a soft hard drive.


49 posted on 11/17/2011 8:00:07 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: SeekAndFind

He probably will prevail. And things will be the same in Washington. Sad that Bachmann lost....


50 posted on 11/17/2011 8:00:31 PM PST by eeriegeno (<p>)
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To: samtheman

>> If you think Churchill was flawless you don’t know history. If you think Newt’s flaws are deal-breakers, you’re not paying attention. >>

Well said. Newt’s flaws and mistakes are what they are, and we’ve all seen them and all been nauseated by them. Having said that, he was fantastic from about 1990 through about late 95. He did a helluva lot of good that helped keep the Reagan economy rolling for years, even if he did crap out in 96 and forward.

The point is this: his sudden conservative religion is not new to him. It was on hold for a while, I’ll admit, but it is not totally new.

Do I totally trust him? No. Will he advance what we all believe incredibly well on the big stage of a debate with Obama. Damaned right, and it will be more important than ever before in Presidential debate history IMO.


51 posted on 11/17/2011 8:01:12 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

It may very well turn out that Newt sucks less than the other candidates.


52 posted on 11/17/2011 8:02:11 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Confab; SeekAndFind

It’s not just interesting, it’s obvious. I guess they want Romney nominated.... heck, maybe they want Obama for another 4 long and painful years.

President Newt Gingrich..... it’s going to happen.


53 posted on 11/17/2011 8:03:40 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/West 2012.“I’ve got a lot swirling around in my head.”)
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To: dfwgator

You’re right. What folks seem loathe to realize is this: in January 2013 a very flawed person will become President after being voted on by 120 million other very flawed persons.

And our choice may be the difference between an avowed socialist who hates America as it was founded - versus a flawed Newt or a flawed Cain or a flawed Perry or a flawed Romney. In fact, it is almost certainly going to be one of those scenarios.

And FTR, if there were a third party ,it would be just as flawed because, dammit, it would be populated with other flawed human beings.

Its called reality.


54 posted on 11/17/2011 8:06:09 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I can vote for Newt, but never Romney.


55 posted on 11/17/2011 8:09:08 PM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We will never leave hell if he is elected.


56 posted on 11/17/2011 8:10:52 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

So we should all refrain from stating our opinions then because we are doomed. We shouldn’t seek out the best we can find or hope for a miracle. We should respond to outrageous corruption by adding one more corrupt, (not flawed, CORRUPT,) pol as head honcho...because somewhere in our deepest souls we are ALL corrupt. This is just damned depressing.


57 posted on 11/17/2011 8:21:27 PM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine

Reality sucks sometimes, don’t it?


58 posted on 11/17/2011 8:23:56 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: SeekAndFind
Newt is going to give them HELL. There are few people that can match the relentless assault and fire power of a monstrous monolithic media. It withers even the finest.

But Newt was born for this fight. He has the intellect, the will and the energy to hang in there round after round and deliver blows of his own.

And that's what it takes to stand up to the forces of leftism when they decide to turn the media hounds loose. They fight dirty and they fight to kill.

May the force be with you, Newt.

59 posted on 11/17/2011 8:32:19 PM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: fightinJAG

It’s one thing to have constructive dialog, even Newt welcomes the scrutiny. It’s quite another for some of these folks to spend all day posting one thread after another using articles from liberal rags rather than their own arguments.

You & I have had what I consider constructive, pleasant dialog lately. I don’t think anyone is against such dialog. However, when others simply rehash the liberal talking points, it’s quite another thing. Can we debate without eating our own?


60 posted on 11/17/2011 8:33:52 PM PST by Confab
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