Posted on 11/18/2011 11:13:52 AM PST by doug from upland
A Pause in the Tebow Argument
To enjoy the conclusion of Thursday night’s Broncos-Jets game, you did not have to buy into the legend of Tim Tebow or care one whit about his religion or politics or the ridiculousness of the Tebowing craze. You didn’t even have to hate the Jets or detest the word “Sanchize,” although that would be a plus. Even without all of that, it was possible to sit back and marvel at how preposterous Tebow’s winning touchdown drive was, after 54 minutes of acting as if he had stumbled into a football game for the first time and decided to play quarterback.
Of course, to enjoy the conclusion of Thursday night’s Broncos-Jets game, you had to watch the first 54 minutes of two teams acting as if they had stumbled into a football game for the first time. But the ending was sublime, unless you’re a Jets fan, in which case we fear for the safety of your television screen.
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I’ve just looked up Tebow’s throwing stats from his bowl game against Cincinnati. He was 31 of 35 for 482 (!!) yards. Mind you Cincinnati had NO LOSSES until facing Tebow’s Gators. Don’t anyone tell me that the man has no potential as a pro passer. Not every great golfer has a conventional swing. Bob
I'm not so sure. It was interesting last night when they compared Tebow's first 8 games to John Elway's first 8 games. Tebow beats him in every stat (wins, yardage, TD's, fewer interceptions, etc.). Eight games a career does not make, but I'd say the young man is off to a splendid start, and I, for one, appreciate his open faith.
It's good to know that God loves Him some Broncos!
I would disagree, to see the look on Elway last night it seemed to me that he was NOT happy to see Tebow take over and win the game. Fox looked reluctantly pleased too.
Loved the post game interview too. The talking heads kept trying to goad Tebow into admitting he was a polarizing hack. Tebow didn’t bite, praising the team and their collective ability and faith. Looks to me that his teammates have bought into this philosophy.
And Von Miller is a beast.
I’m not so sure that the Broncos will be known as a low-scoring team by the end of 2011. Of course, Tebow will still take lumps along the way, but he now pilots a team who BELIEVE that they will win. That wasn’t true five weeks ago. Bob
Or was it Kenya?
That was college. In the pros his completion percentage is 46.9. Part of his problem is he’s not reading defenses, he has to see his man get open and the NFL is too fast for that, at this level he needs to see where the defense is before the snap, know how the receiver will adjust his route, and know when and where that means his guy will be open. If a QB can’t do that he’ll have no short or intermediate game, which is basically where Tebow is at right now, he’s playing the “don’t get sacked for 8 seconds and somebody is bound to get open” version of the game, great for college, but NFL QBs average 2.4 seconds between snap and throw. He needs to speed up.
I’m glad he won and all, being a Patriots fan, but Tebow has a LOT to prove before he can be considered an average NFL quarterback, let alone an elite one.
All players regardless of position are paid for one thing, TO WIN A FOOTBALL GAME.
Tebow is winning football games. In the end that is going to be all that matters....
Today’s NFL standards indicate accurate passing.
Tebow is below 50%.
I think he is a fine football player, and is more of a throwback QB.
He put together a nice drive at the end, true.
But for the vast majority of the game, he did nothing. He couldn't sustain drives for anything other than field goals, and he was only given a chance to win because of the pick six and Sanchez's awesome ability to blow football games. Tebow might develop into a good quarterback one day, but that day is many days from now, judging from what I saw last night.
He also still needs to learn how to run an offense . . .
How many games has he started? Heck, Tony Romo has played for years, and he still makes boneheaded plays.
I agree it's too early to know. I suspect what Denver coaches hope to do is slowly include more passing plays as Tebow refines his skill and gains self confidence.
As Tebow's passing improves, I suspect scoring will follow but Denver coaches also have to pause and ask themselves if in going back an old school offense, they didn't accidentally uncover a weakness in current NFL defensive schemes and personnel?
Fans may prefer higher scoring games but in the immortal words of Al Davis, "Just win baby!".
Maybe that’s because the Broncos coaches put the reins on Tebow until the game is on the line.
Besides. Y'all don't mess with Texas.
The most notable exception is the guy who seems to be the one everyone loves to hate...but I can't figure why;
Tom Brady. 11 and 3 his first year as starter after Bledsoe got his bell rung good in 2001.
1. Timmy Chang, Hawaii (2000-04)
2. Graham Harrell, Texas Tech (2005-08)
3. Ty Detmer, BYU (1988-91)
4. Colt Brennan, Hawaii (2005-07)
5. Case Keenum, Houston (2007-Present)
6. Philip Rivers, North Carolina State (2000-03)
7. Colt McCoy, Texas (2004-08)
8. Kevin Kolb, Houston (2003-06)
9. Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan (2006-09)
10. Tim Rattay, Louisiana Tech (1997-99)
Most of these guys never played more than a handful of games in the NFL, and most of those who have filled starting roles have been mediocre at best.
Names like Dan Marino, Peyton Manning, John Elway, Jim Kelly, Joe Montana, Tom Brady, Warren Moon and Brett Favre are nowhere to be seen on that list. That's not a coincidence.
Elway is a lot like Montana and Marino in one key respect: There was no correlation between their early success (or lack of such) and the drafting position of the teams they played for — because they were not top draft picks coming out of college. Marino was selected at the bottom of the first round, Montana was (I think) a third-round pick in 1979, and Brady was a sixth-round pick for New England in 2000.
Am going a bit off topic here, but some NFL player was fined over Veterans Day for dropping to one knee in the end zone and flashing a salute to the veterans in the stands.
Tebow and others drop to one knee and utter a silent prayer.
No penalty for that - not yet anyway - am sure it is coming.
I will never understand all these idiotic end-zone antic penalties ( to supposedly prevent celebratory acts or taunting and teasing - aw the poor little things )
Is there really a NFL rule that says you can’t salute on one knee. What if you drop to one knee, make the sign of the cross, and render a salute?
Who was the old-time golfer who once noted, "It's funny how, the harder I work, the luckier I get."?
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