Posted on 11/18/2011 2:18:25 PM PST by mdittmar
Herman Cain once again walked back his joke about building an electrified fence along the U.S.-Mexico border, telling Univision in an interview that the comment “wasn’t intended to offend” Latinos.
Then Cain outlined a border policy he supports – relying on state-level initiatives to control illegal immigration – and specifically praised the Arizona and Alabama immigration laws that Latinos loathe:
SANDRA PEEBLES: Mr. Cain, many Latinos were offended by your comment on the electric fence. I understand that you support legal immigration, but regardless of the fact there are 11 million undocumented people in this country. What do we do with them?
HERMAN CAIN: We do several things. First, if I offended somebody with the comment I apologize. It wasn't intended to offend. And the other thing that I would say is, it wasn't directed at people that are already here. The last time I checked nobody was sneaking out of America. They sneak into America. Now, first we clean up the bureaucracy for legal immigration. It's too cumbersome. It's bureaucratic. We can fix that. It doesn't utilize technology the way it should to make it easier for people to come through the front door - which I wholeheartedly endorse. Secondly, the way we deal with the illegals that are already here - empower the states. The federal government is incapable of solving that problem for the 11 to 12 million illegals that are here. I would defer to the states, just like Arizona is trying to do something. Alabama, Georgia, they've all passed laws to begin to deal with it, to try to make it easier for employers to hire legal residents here. To make it easier for employers to help people become legal. That's how we approach the problem.
I’m not sure whether that’s one step forward, one step back, for Cain and Latino voters, or something less helpful than that.
“did you mean hit the ground running as in running from the immigration...
running and illegal immigrants made me laugh...”
No, as in showing up everyday for work and working their ass off. The whole American dream. Work hard, start a family, earn a living and get rich.
For an enterprise, it’s like running a start up, you get things rolling, and you hit the ground, hard. That’s exactly what legal immigrants have to do, because they are starting without much at all in America. They have to build from scratch.
“I see, so Cain really is okay with the hiring illegals... as long as the employer helps the illegal....... become legal.”
Some enter legally on a tourist visa, it expires, while they are trying to get legal resident alien status for employment. It is the long time delay to get approved for employment, which is cited by many about this topic.
My guy is Perry and he's been getting hammered for weeks. Some justified, some not. Goes with the territory, bucko.
Kudos to Cain for refusing to pander to Univision, as Perry did. Polutico is mad that he re-endorsed 1070 on the Spanish network, but legal immigrants and citizens applaud him.
“I don’t see how people who enter the country legally should be considered illegals.”
Neither do I. However, those were Cain’s words I was questioning. “....employers to help people become legal”. People legally here, do not need employers to make their legal presence legal... they already are.
I do not disagree with your explanation as to how it should be, but again, that is not what he said.
Look, I want Newt to win, but Cain is still our guy. He needs to learn to be clear... his failure to think before he speaks is feeding the media, hurting him and his supporters, while making us all look bad. THAT, and it makes my brain hurt. ;>)
No...Cain endorsed AZ-style laws which mandate e-verify and have tough employer sanctions. He is putting his typical positive Cain-spin on it, which I love.
No...he gave a tepid apology and then walked that back with a clever quip about no one sneaking out. Then he endorsed AZ-style laws. YOUR guy (Perry) barely speaks English with either side of his mouth, opposed SB1070, and opposes a fence.
‘Neither do I. However, those were Cain’s words I was questioning. “....employers to help people become legal”. People legally here, do not need employers to make their legal presence legal... they already are.’
And why do you think that he was referring to people who are already in America? He’s referring to people who are not in America, who want to come to America.
” I don’t spend most of the time sitting on it. “
“Most”, so you admit that you do spend time sitting on your head, but the greater (most) portion of your time is spent doing something else. LOL@
My head hurts because it takes studying and several interpreters to understand what Cain says, as well as notes to keep track of his revisions to his revisions.
Although limited by your schedule, why is it that you sit on your head?
Yes, this is a big, big problem.
It’s far easier to bypass the system altogether then to get clearance for employment in the US, jumping through all the hoops. This is part of why you see so many entering illegally.
This needs to be fixed.
Uncle-—I give up.
Perry has a successful conservative governing record that folks can judge him on. And Perry supported the Arizona illegal immigrant law allowing the Texas AG to join in the lawsuit challenging the Feds. And Perry supports strategic fencing, boots on the ground and the best hitech hardware money can buy. It would be great to see an Israeli type border barrier on the entire 1200 mile Tex-Mex border. Paid for by the Feds. Not by the state of Texas.
In one of the debates Cain also pretty much said he’d let the illegals already here stay.
Wow, way to be specific.
Well, that’s what happens when you are a real businessman who pays taxes rather then collects them. He has a record, solid conservatism, going back to ‘94 with his public opposition to health care.
Last I checked, Perry was in support of Slick Willy’s plan.
Cain: The way we deal with the illegals that are already here - empower the states. The federal government is incapable of solving that problem for the 11 to 12 million illegals that are here.
Sounds good to me......
Herman do not turn your back on your base. Illegal immigration is HUGE issue for tea party members. There should be a fence built.
No Perry did not oppose SB1070.
Perry also wants the fence , where practical in Texas. He wants other types of control in the places where a fence is not feasible.
OK, Herman, you aren’t right for me.
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