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Is GOP missing chance to grow? (Hispanic vote)
Las Vegas Sun ^ | November 19, 2011 | Karoun Demirjian

Posted on 11/19/2011 2:09:29 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yawn. Talk’s cheap. Perry hasn’t walked the walk that he claims.


61 posted on 11/19/2011 6:41:24 AM PST by TADSLOS (Lexicon Genetics- Rick Perry's Solyndra Moment)
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To: South40

Nice fiction novel you’re building by posting chapter installments to Perry threads.

Going for 3rd party? Trying to drive voters to Obama?

Who is your candidate?


62 posted on 11/19/2011 6:41:57 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: TADSLOS
Yawn. Talk’s cheap.

You should know.

63 posted on 11/19/2011 6:43:09 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Caipirabob

I would add quotas to your list. No more unchecked immigration from “latin” countries while forgetting all about the rest of the world.


64 posted on 11/19/2011 6:50:23 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr

Gov. Rick Perry says the border will be SEALED and no amnesty — cartels killed off.


65 posted on 11/19/2011 6:51:27 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: South40
I wanted to like the guy, really I did. But it took me just a short time to discover the pro-ILLEGAL alien RINO does not represent my conservative values -- not by a long shot. It's sad that so many 'conservatives' here either look past or accept his liberal leanings. People are different, I understand that. But being pro-ILLEGAL alien is not conservative, there's just no defending it.

Yep. Me too. Until his record on invaders started coming out I was actually all for him.

I also bought into the jobs thing till I found out the truth: Most of the jobs went to illegals and immigrants.

Perry seems like a decent guy. I just can't get past what he's supporting in order to get elected.

66 posted on 11/19/2011 6:52:43 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr
Perry seems like a decent guy.

I disagree. I don't think Perry is any more decent than California's liberal governor Jerry Brown whose rhetoric and policy on taxpayer funded subsidies for ILLEGAL aliens is identical to that of La Raza Rick Perry.

A liberal is a liberal.

67 posted on 11/19/2011 6:57:10 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Going for 3rd party? Trying to drive voters to Obama?

You lose more credibility every time you post.

If you want to know who my candidate is read this thread.

68 posted on 11/19/2011 6:59:28 AM PST by South40 (NO RINOS IN 2012!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Gov. Rick Perry says the border will be SEALED and no amnesty — cartels killed off.

Yep, all the airports will keep those undesirable Europeans out but the southern border will still have those "holes" that are just to difficult to close.

Would Perry agree to a moratorium on hispanic immigration till we get 20 million people from non-hispanic countries?

69 posted on 11/19/2011 7:04:13 AM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr
Oh, good. Another article about racist latinos that see themselves as something other than Americans first.

I have noted for years that indifference toward Latinos, and the failure to understand the difference between recruiting and pandering, may mean the GOP becoming a permanent minority party in the foreseeable future.

Conceding the hispanic vote, or the black vote for that matter, is a disaster waiting to happen.

Whatever you think of hispanics is of no importance as long as it doesn't infect the leaders of the party. Latinos vote, and in ever increasing numbers, "racist" or not, and their votes don't have labels on them. They all count the same.

70 posted on 11/19/2011 7:10:48 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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71 posted on 11/19/2011 7:14:47 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: raybbr
I would add quotas to your list. No more unchecked immigration from “latin” countries while forgetting all about the rest of the world.

Very good point!

72 posted on 11/19/2011 7:35:40 AM PST by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: shield

If “winning” means we have to placate illegals to gain the “hispanic” vote then I spit in every “hispanics” face. I have a co-worker form Brazil he is half german and half Italian by birth. The US Govt. considers him “Hispanic”.


73 posted on 11/19/2011 8:08:53 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: no dems
Yes and 80 percent of those were brought upon getting freebies from the tax payer, and to think they are not going to vote to keep those freebies is stupid. Build the wall let them vote for freebies in their home countries.
74 posted on 11/19/2011 8:12:17 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One way to attract the Hispanic vote is to accurately describe the Democrat agenda.

For example:

“The Democrats want a man to be able to marry a man.”

Imagine that message on a giant billboard showing two men holding hands and kissing each other.

(That meme should be worth millions of votes.)


75 posted on 11/19/2011 8:23:07 AM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I detest identity politics but then....”

Did you ever note the saying (I _think_ this came from the German general von Clauswitz, not certain), “you may not be interested in war, but war may be interested in you” ??

Let me rephrase that slightly:
“You may not be interested in identity politics, but identity politics may be interested in you....”

That you “detest” the notion of “identity politics” does not make it any less real. That type of “tribal behavior” (and yes, it is based on ethnicity, skin coloration, and [horror of horrors] race) not only exists, but is becoming increasingly influential in American politics. The “colors of the country” are changing, and to the dismay of American Euros (who politely tried to ignore such changes the past 40+ years). We (I am a Euro) might have “nipped that in the bud” (by preserving the ethnic/immigration policies the USA had adopted back in the early 1920’s), but deliberately chose not to do so.

Now we are reaping the “diversity harvest” from seeds that were sown decades ago.

If you haven’t read it, I’ll recommend Patrick J. Buchanan’s new book, “Suicide of a Superpower” to you. You probably won’t agree with it, but it’s good reading nonetheless.

Closing thought, based on simple arithmetic:
Suppose “our side” gets about 35-40% “of the Hispanic vote”. That means the OTHER SIDE gets 60-65%. The more Hispanics there are, the more votes the other side gets — doesn’t matter that we consistently garner 40%. The “real numbers” for our side will always decline vis-a-vis _their side_.
100,000 votes - we get 40,000, they get 60,000 (they beat us by 20,000 votes)
200,000 votes - we get 80,000, but THEY get 120,000 (they beat us by _40,000_ votes)
Which side will forever win, politically?

Best regards,
- Glide


76 posted on 11/19/2011 8:28:29 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: Road Glide

Welcome to FR.

It’s nice to get a lecture from a new poster.

LOL


77 posted on 11/19/2011 8:30:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Road Glide

Racial/Identity Politics is a polite way to say tribalism. It is a step backwards for humanity. I’ll have no part of it.


78 posted on 11/19/2011 8:41:17 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: shield; TADSLOS; Cincinatus' Wife
Ironically, Perry never said the word heartless, and he was talking about the small number of undocumented children brought into Texas by illegal immigrants that would qualify under Texas law for the in-state college tuition rate. Newt was actually commenting on what to do about the 12 to 20 million illegal immigrants that are already here. Yet, Newt seems to get a complete pass on his heartless commentary even though it went directly to the center of the illegal immigration issue. Obviously, it's not about the word heartless in the context of illegal immigration, it's all about bashing Rick Perry.
79 posted on 11/19/2011 8:51:06 AM PST by Quicksilver (nominate Rick Perry - defeat Obama - overhaul Washington!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

How can you be proud of the fact that Perry addressed a racist organization like La Raza? Would you be proud of him if he addressed the Black Panthers or the KKK?


80 posted on 11/19/2011 8:54:13 AM PST by af_vet_rr
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