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The Mormon Factor
The Washington Times ^ | Nov. 25, 2011 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 11/25/2011 6:08:09 AM PST by lakeprincess

Doubts about Mitt Romney’s fitness for the White House disappear when skittish Republicans, conservatives and even evangelicals consider the alternative: another four years of President Obama and his evolving administration.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortionist; conservatives; gungrabber; liberalrino; nonchristian; obama; romney; statist; teaparty
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To: vette6387
The idea of not voting is the head in the sand approach to politics. The second most stupid idea is to vote for someone like Ron Paul as a third-party candidate

Disclaimer: I don't say, "don't vote"; I say, "vote third party if Romney wins the nomination."

The idea that in EVERY single race there HAS to be TWO viable candidates in a Romney world is nuts!

Just 'cause someone may wear an "R"...
...wouldn't transform a "D" in sheep's clothing...
...anymore than the kid wearing a costume on Halloween is that in real life!

If you have...
(a) Conservatives who understand the REAL ID of the kid beneath the Halloween costume...
(b) ...plus the MSM showing Mormonism for what it is...
(c) ...plus the MSM turning an Obama-Romney matchup into a referendum on racism...
...[hey, if Perry took as much heat and as much of a poll point-loss just 'cause a painted-over, turned-upside-rock on a family member's hunting ground, then think of the five Book of Mormon passages and one Pearl of Great Price Mormon passages that haven't been "painted over" or "turned upside down" and the outright Mormon leader racism that Mitt was a part of thru age 31...and gave 10% to...]
...then Note: All of the above adds up to a formula equaling Romney never qualifying as a viable candidate.

There are just some qualities in combination which for some candidates equals self-elimination.

Or what? Do you think you can close your eyes, tap your special shoes, and say "there's no place like the White House" several times and "wish" Romney into the White House and Obama out? Why would you expect conservatives to vote for a liberal in sheep's clothing? 'Cause of the sheep's clothing?

Are you saying that just because Romney could capture somewhere between 26-29% of the general populace vote that it makes him a viable candidate? Really?

Did you know that if a football team loses 46-29, that it doesn't count anymore than if a football team loses 46-18 or 46-7? In all such cases, if you tossed in your "rooting vote" for the losing team, you lost -- and therefore wasted your "rooting vote."

81 posted on 11/26/2011 10:13:29 AM PST by Colofornian (JoePologists: Those who defend the personality cults of Joe Smith and Joe Paterno)
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To: bert
The word heresy and the concept involved is a priestly construction to protect their job and more importantly their collection plate take.

You may have a point.

82 posted on 11/26/2011 11:36:09 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: panaxanax

Make sure Cheney is NOWHERE in sight!


83 posted on 11/26/2011 11:37:29 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: panaxanax
Your rapid multiple posts clearly prove my point in regards to your unhealthy obsession with Mormonism.

2 Peter 2:1-3
1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--
bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

JESUS: Hey Smith!       Remember that boast you made about doing more than even I had done to hold the 'church' together?

JOSEPH SMITH: Where am I?

JESUS: Don't you remember? A few seconds ago you were in that jail.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah; but where am I NOW?

JESUS: Don't you remember? Does bang - bang ring a bell?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh; yeah - that crummy gun I had was about USELESS!

JESUS: I hope you left instructions on how to hold your church together.

JOSEPH SMITH: Dang! I knew there was SOMETHING I was forgetting!

JESUS: Looks like there's a power struggle going on down there.

JOSEPH SMITH: Yeah; there was always SOMEone who wanted the power that I held - especially over the LADIES - wink wink.

JESUS: No need to worry about that now; remember what my friend Matthew wrote down?

JOSEPH SMITH: This? “At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven” (Matthew 22:30)

JESUS: That's it.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: Nah - it was right.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh well; it was fun while it lasted. My buds will still get it on with the girls.

JESUS: Uh; I'm sorry; in just a few more years; your followers will cavein to the United States government and abandon the 'Eternal Covenant' that you came up with.

JOSEPH SMITH: ME!? YOU are the one that told me to do that!

JESUS: Sorry; but you must have mistranslated what I told you. What part of Do NOT commit ADULTERY did you not understand?

JOSEPH SMITH: mumble....

JESUS: What did you say?

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, nothing.

JESUS: Well; it was interesting talking to you; but now I must get back to perparing a place for those who believe in Me.

JOSEPH SMITH: Oh, yeah; the Celestial Kingdom.

JESUS: No...

JOSEPH SMITH: The Telestial one?

JESUS: Nope.

JOSEPH SMITH: SUREly not the TERRESTRIAL one!!

JESUS: Nope. Didn't you read that the mind of man had NOT conceived of it? Paul wrote it down in 1 Corinthians 2:9.

JOSEPH SMITH: I thought that was mistranslated.

JESUS: No; it wasn't.

JOSEPH SMITH: You SURE?

JESUS: Yes. Now I must be going: what did you say your name was again?

JOSEPH SMITH: Joseph Smith.

JESUS: Hmmmm. According to my Heavenly FAITHbook, you didn't sign in as one of my friends - sorry, I never knew you.

JOSEPH SMITH: But.... 

84 posted on 11/26/2011 1:51:11 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian
Oh, get a life. I stand by my statement. It is absolutely a talking point of you antis. That is not the way the Church teaches it, and you know it. It's certainly never been taught in the LDS church's I've gone to my entire life, in several states.

Exhalation, and inheriting “all the Father hath” is easy fodder for those who hate the Church.

Being a “God of your own planet” is just so dang juicy, that's it's oft repeated and you just can't help yourself. I think I understand the easy target.

In truth, the doctrine is closer to what is taught in the New Testament. I know you won't agree, but this is a more honest approach than the old “God of his own planet” shenanigans.

Matt. 25:34
inherit the kingdom prepared for you

Rom. 8:17
heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ

Philip. 2:9
God also hath highly exalted him

Rev. 3:21
grant to sit with me in my throne

Rev. 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things

Plus, all the references to crowns given to those who overcome all things. That is all. Please don't bother trying to continually ping me to these constant bashing threads over and over. Your narrow focus mission to constantly rag on Mormonism has a few followers here, but I don't wish to be among your disciples.

Thank you for taking me off your list, if you would.

85 posted on 11/26/2011 7:57:24 PM PST by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: Ripliancum; Colofornian

Loved the cherry picked verses rip. it has been shown time and again they do not support your claims upon closer inspection.

It also must be embarrassing to recognize that your prophets and apostle TAUGHT this as doctrine throughout the course of mormon history. Your dismissal of these only points to the hollowness to the mormon claim of a living prophet. What good are living prophets when every proclaimation and teaching are readily dismissed as their opinion.


86 posted on 11/26/2011 8:20:27 PM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; Tennessee Nana; ...
Bumping #42 that got lost in the holiday shuffle.

Click HERE for the response at #85...incredible.

87 posted on 11/28/2011 8:33:51 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (If other churches were dead dunking mormons to save them mormons would be furious.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 4, 1844. Joseph Smith speaking:
“...you have to learn to be Gods yourselves, and to be kings and priests to God, the same as all Gods have done before you, - namely, by going from one small degree to another...”

Reference: Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 275, 1852. Brighan Young speaking:
“After men have got their exaltations and their crowns - have become Gods...”


Journal of Discourses Vol. 6 Page 7, 1844. Joseph Smith speaking:
“God himself, finding he was in the midst of spirits and glory, because he was more intelligent, saw proper to institute laws whereby the rest could have a priviledge to advance like himself”

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88 posted on 11/28/2011 8:48:39 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: lakeprincess
I wouldn't vote for Romney regardless of his religion.

But....Why is the media so silent about his Mormonism? Hm?....Is anyone curious about this?

Reason: The Marxist media believes Romney is the weakest candidate and they are propping him up. The communists and fascists of our nation want Romney to be the Republican candidate. Two minutes after his nomination it will be non-stop “vetting” of every nutty Mormon belief imaginable, His polygamous ancestors will be exhumed. And....Four days before the election a gaggle of former Mormons will swear that they witnessed baby sacrifice in the Mormon temples. Four months after Obama is re-elected they will print a retraction on page 57 of the entertainment section in the Sunday papers.

Bet on it!

90 posted on 11/28/2011 8:55:52 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: org.whodat

The planted story is the work of either the disgruntled Romneybots, many of whom were zotted and returned under new handles in ‘08, OR the Axelgreasy strategy to suppress conservative momentum and discourage turnout in Nov 2012. This drek has nothing to do with the sleazy Karl Rove, but that was a good try to divert attention from the real culprits.


91 posted on 11/28/2011 8:58:20 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Ripliancum
I hope you checked those verses against the Joseph Smith Translation !

What have I told you cult members about using the KJV Bible that you claim God(s) told Joseph Smith not to ?...

I'll give you a few minute to check these for yourself before I embarrass you, either that or you can publicly proclaim that you think it's a fraud, like Brigham Young did....Either way, and like it or not, you own it.

Here's a link to a true mormon website where you can read the JST, they have posted it for the whole world to read because they believe Joseph Smith was a true Prophet of God.

http://www.centerplace.org/hs/iv/default.htm

92 posted on 11/28/2011 8:58:26 AM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: I am Richard Brandon
I will not vote for Romney until he tells me whether he will install the Constitution on his new planet. After all, this life is one life only, but the planet that Mormonism says he will be given to populate is every life and for ever - isn't it?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bet on it! The Marxist media that has up until now ignored Romney's Mormonism **will** ask that question during the debates.

I am certain of it!

93 posted on 11/28/2011 8:59:20 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: MHGinTN
You are right, but Rove **is** sleazy.
94 posted on 11/28/2011 9:01:20 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

ping


95 posted on 11/28/2011 9:02:04 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Ripliancum

Common Mormonic Quote, used here on FR by mormons more than once:

“Jesus promised He was going away to prepare a place for us. If my mansion is a planet, that’s great!”

Rip, your post distorts not only what is taught by the lds corporation, but what is believed by members as a result of that teaching.

This leads me to conclude either you do not pay attention, you are in a rogue branch of the cult, or your post is simply there to cover up what is plainly taught. Not sure which. Years ago, I would not have included the third choice in describing your posts. Today, it appears to be the most logical explanation of your recent posts.


96 posted on 11/28/2011 9:08:29 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
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To: Ripliancum
Your narrow focus mission to constantly rag on Mormonism has a few followers here, but I don't wish to be among your disciples.

Among MORMONs; true.


Zechariah 4:10

King James Bible
For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

97 posted on 11/28/2011 9:10:59 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: greyfoxx39
Bumping #42 that got lost in the holiday shuffle.

What danged elephant are you TALKING about??


98 posted on 11/28/2011 9:12:57 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: wintertime
Why is the media so silent about his Mormonism?

Ya gotta wait 'til the pot builds up!

99 posted on 11/28/2011 9:14:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: cripplecreek

>> I don’t like Mitt but Mormonism has nothing to do with it.

It will in the general if he takes the primary. The Media and Hollywood will make sure of it.


100 posted on 11/28/2011 9:15:03 AM PST by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jets.)
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