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Romney Versus Gingrich on Jihad and Sharia: A Clear Contrast
Big Peace ^ | November 25, 2011 | Andrew G. Bostom

Posted on 11/26/2011 7:21:46 AM PST by greyfoxx39

Early and volatile, the Republican Presidential nomination race—at least for now—appears to be settling into a contest between consistent front runner Mitt Romney and the latest surging “non-Romney alternative,” former House Speaker, Newt Gingrich.

Unfortunately, the CNN/Heritage Foundation/American Enterprise televised debate of 11/22/11 did not highlight the yawning gap between these frontrunning contenders’ views on the existential threat doctrine of our Islamic enemies: jihad and its motivational, sacralized religio-political “law,” Sharia.

During an interview with US News reporter Dan Gligoff published June 3, 2009, Mitt Romney offered the following bizarre observation about the living Islamic institution of jihad, ostensibly to “clarify” remarks made during an earlier speech at the Heritage Foundation:

I spoke about three major threats America faces on a long term basis. Jihadism is one of them, and that is not Islam.

Romney—notwithstanding this distressingly ridiculous pronouncement—remains, for now, the frontrunning contender for the Republican Presidential nomination.

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, in stark contrast to the muddled and craven nonsense uttered by Romney on jihad during his US News interview, delivered an astute and courageous address at The American Enterprise Institute, July 29, 2010, which provided an irrefragably accurate if blunt characterization of the existential threat posed by Islam’s living, self-professed mission: to impose Sharia, its totalitarian religio-political “law,” globally.

With vanishingly rare intellectual honesty and resolve, Gingrich described how normative Sharia—antithetical to bedrock Western legal principles—by “divine,” immutable diktat, rejects freedom of conscience, while sanctioning violent jihadism, absurd, misogynistic “rules of evidence” (four male witnesses for rape), barbarous punishments (stoning for adultery), and polygamy:

Sharia in its natural form has principles and punishments totally abhorrent to the Western world, and the underlying basic belief which is that law comes directly from God and is therefore imposed upon humans and no human can change the law without it being an act of apostasy is a fundamental violation of a tradition in the Western system which goes back to Rome, Athens, and Jerusalem and which has evolved in giving us freedom across the planet on a scale we can hardly imagine and which is now directly threatened by those who would impose it.

Moreover, Gingrich warned about efforts—deliberate, or unwitting–to represent Sharia as a benign system:

So let me also be quite clear that the rules are radical and horrific. I think again it’s fascinating that even when people go out and do polling and they say to, for example, Muslims in general, do you believe in Sharia, they don’t then explain what Sharia is. Sharia becomes like would you like to be a Rotarian and it sounds okay.

Gingrich’s unflinching portrayal of the existential threat Sharia represents—whether or not this totalitarian system is imposed by violent, or non-violent means—was accompanied by a clarion call for concrete measures to oppose any Sharia encroachment on the U.S. legal code:

Stealth jihadis use political, cultural, societal, religious, intellectual tools; violent jihadis use violence. But in fact they’re both engaged in jihad and they’re both seeking to impose the same end state which is to replace Western civilization with a [radical] imposition of Sharia.

The fight against Sharia and the madrassas in mosques which teach hatred and fanaticism is the heart of the enemy movement from which the terrorists spring forth. It’s time we had a national debate on this. One of the things I’m going to suggest today is a federal law which says no court anywhere in the United States under any circumstance is allowed to consider Sharia as a replacement for American law.

Subsequently, J. Mark Campbell of The United West obtained a video-recorded commitment from Newt Gingrich to pursue and prosecute the major Muslim Brotherhood front groups currently operating unencumbered in the US and being courted for “Muslim outreach” by feckless politicians, policymakers, and even law enforcement officials.

The Holy Land Foundation trial made unmistakably clear the agenda of this spider’s web of Muslim Brotherhood organizations—which includes unindicted co-conspirators CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations), ISNA (Islamic Society of North America), and NAIT (North American Islamic Trust)—as stated explicitly by Yusuf al-Qaradawi acolyte Mohamed Akram, in his “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Brotherhood in North America”, May 22, 1991 (translated here, on “Page 7 of 18,” bottom center pagination):

The process of settlement is a “Civilization-Jihadist Process” with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and by the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.

“Frontrunner” Mitt Romney needs to provide the same unequivocal commitment, immediately, to this critically important national security goal in the struggle against jihadism.

Newt Gingrich has set the standard for honest and informed discussion of Islamic totalitarianism which should be expected of all contenders—a standard Mitt Romney, thus far, fails, miserably.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; 2012gopelection; elections; jihad; lds; mohammedanism; mormon; mormonism; moslem; newt; newtonsharia; romney; sharia
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To: caww
...it is still amazing how much LDS inc apologists want folks to believe LDS inc is Christianity restored!

It even MORE amazing in the FACT that they CANNOT show ANYTHING that HAS been 'restored'!

81 posted on 11/26/2011 11:29:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Naw. People don’t make wrong assumptions. The assumptions are always correct based on the information provided, however if one withholds information it is left the observer to make a correct conclusion.


82 posted on 11/26/2011 11:31:11 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: svcw
...really stretches the bounds of credulity.

It almost makes one think that we have an incensed MORMON in Catholic clothing here.

83 posted on 11/26/2011 11:31:19 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: caww

The poster maintains a deniability for herself to herself by not reading any of the quotes we post. She has a lot invested in remaining ignorant of the truth.


84 posted on 11/26/2011 12:08:14 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: caww
and we do pray that the blinders will fall away before it's too late.

I pray that too. It just astounds me how some Mormons won't even in public acknowledge what their own religion teaches. They say they aren't ashamed of the teachings of Jesus Christ but amongst themselves they practice a different gospel. Jesus never promised a celestial marriages and forever families who populate certain planets. When Christians point this out, we are labeled hateful.

If there was that kind of discrepancy between the Mormon doctrine and the bible, surely a reasonable would want to know the truth. But from what I'm seeing, some Mormons are just putting up barriers and not willing to discuss the facts. I don't know if its because they've been so deeply programmed or they are under demonic forces, but in any case, I just can't deal with people who don't have some basis with reality.

85 posted on 11/26/2011 12:36:27 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Elsie
Heck; they won't even 'acknowledge' what their own CHURCH has said!!

Exactly. And their arguments to defend it are based on emotions not facts. Reminds me of liberals.

86 posted on 11/26/2011 12:41:12 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: annieokie

Thanks, I will read that.


87 posted on 11/26/2011 12:42:03 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
No dog pile here. I'm not against you but against your founder and his doctrines. And frankly I'm against any thought process that will cling to a belief against any and ALL evidence.

Your whole religion stands or falls on one thing, truth.

Joseph Smith claimed divine inspiration for the claim that American Indians were descended from Israel. If he is wrong on JUST THIS ONE ISSUE any and ALL other "divinely inspired scripture" from the Book of Mormon or any of the other so-called "inspired" works becomes null and void.

It doesn't take long AT ALL to find devastating and conclusive evidence against his claims.

SOURCE HERE

LDS researchers compare existing genetic evidence with the Book of Mormon story

Mormon researchers such as anthropologist Thomas W. Murphy (who is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Latter-day Saints, henceforth LDS) and former-LDS and molecular biologist Simon Southerton state that the substantial collection of Native American genetic markers now available are not consistent with any detectable presence of ancestors from the ancient Middle East, and argued that this poses substantial evidence to contradict the account in the Book of Mormon. Both Murphy and Southerton have published their views on this subject.

What has the DNA from native Americans proven? There is no Semitic tie to Israel.

THIS disproves your whole religion in the same way that disproving the virgin birth or the resurrection would negate the WHOLE Christan religion. NONE can be true unless the first be established.
88 posted on 11/26/2011 1:00:25 PM PST by jonboy
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To: Elsie
That is just too cute. No matter how/where you get your information, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

Most peon Morman simply do not know what the truth is, and most likely will never be privileged to be told by their prophets (I really hate using that term for their leaders).

When they finally see the light, if ever, they will be so devastated and perhaps never come to Christ. I have read a few of the former LDSers speak on this and the lies they were told. They HATE the LDS now.

89 posted on 11/26/2011 1:02:10 PM PST by annieokie
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To: jonboy
You would think that, it is logical. Yet, my lds uncle (who happens to be a learned man in the physical sciences), says, yes that is what the evidence says but that's why we call it faith.
90 posted on 11/26/2011 1:05:05 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: annieokie

“KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK”

Yes, the Flying Inman do a great job day after day and I appreciate them very much!


91 posted on 11/26/2011 1:36:01 PM PST by PeachyKeen
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To: Georgia Girl 2
"When it comes time to pick between Mitt and Newt you will find pulling the lever for Newt will not be painful at all."

I'm no Newt cheerleader, and personally hope he's not the nominee, but we need to keep a proper perspective here.

Newt's House impeached Clinton, ROMNEY IS CLINTON !

Romney's stances are nearly identical to Clinton's....and his lying is so bad that even John Kerry has called him on it. Adn BTW, John Kerry went to Vietnam, Romeny dodged the draft to recruit for his cult.

I woudl switch parties and vote for Kerry before I EVER VOTED FOR THAT RINO TRAITOR ROMNEY !

92 posted on 11/26/2011 1:38:46 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
"We Mormons stood “side-by-side” with other Christians to fight for passage of Prop 8..."

Given the torrid history of "marriage" in the breakaway LDS sect of mromonism, you should have had the honor to stay away. You turned the whole debate into "gay marraige vs hypocritical polygamists." You were less helpful than Fred Phelps and his clan would have been.

93 posted on 11/26/2011 1:44:00 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: annieokie
Most peon Morman simply do not know what the truth is...

Quite true.

Listen to the exMOs here.

See how THEIR minds were convinced of the 'truth' of MORMONism - until they did the research FOR THEMSELVES.

94 posted on 11/26/2011 1:44:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: jonboy; Saundra Duffy; BlueMoose
Jon, to me the absolutley most damning thing about the entir story of mormonism is the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible.

Think about this, the root of the entire religion, the first vision...The reason for it all....:

1. God(s) appear to Joseph Smith, tell him not to become a Christian or use the KJV bible because it is corrupt.

2: Smith writes the Book of Mormon. LDS Sect to this day call it "The most correct book on earth".

3. Smith "retranslates" the entire bible under God(s)ly command over a period of several years.

4. Brigham Young, rather than pay for rights to the JST, declares it a fraud after Smith's death. LDS SECT breaks away from mormonism.

5. LDS sect USES KJV Bible and increasingly claims to be Christian.

Quite disrespectful and disobedient of God(s) and FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith if you ask me.

Watch, Saundra CANNOT force her brain into the pretzle it takes to defend this, and will not respond. Instead she'll "answer the question that should have been asked" like her sect leaders have taught her. Even a trained, experienced Lawyer cannot spin this issue AND DEFEND THE FACT THAT HER SECT BELIEVES THAT SMITH WAS A PROPHET OF GOD(S), AND A FRAUD ! (or as they like to put it, a "Rough Stone Rolling".


95 posted on 11/26/2011 2:03:13 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: SENTINEL; Saundra Duffy
DEFEND THE FACT THAT HER SECT BELIEVES THAT SMITH WAS A PROPHET OF GOD(S), AND A FRAUD

Yep. Brilliant point.

96 posted on 11/26/2011 2:17:27 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: SENTINEL
"""""Brigham Young, rather than pay for rights to the JST, declares it a fraud after Smith's death. LDS SECT breaks away from mormonism""""....

So it gets deeper, now there is FRAUD within the FRAUD, LDS break away from mormonism and yet still call themselves MORMONs. They are crazy.

I will have to check out that book.

97 posted on 11/26/2011 2:21:31 PM PST by annieokie
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To: jonboy; Saundra Duffy; BlueMoose
Hey Jon,

Did you know that the main selling point used by their missionaries, "families can be together forever", and the "plan of salvation", was actually ripped off by Smith, in detail, from a guy named Emmanuel Swedenborg ? There are even library records still in existence showing that the FLDS/LDS "Prophet" checked out this 1770's era book about a dozen times ?

In the interest of honesty, I'd liek to help them reword one of their favorite songs...

Families can be together forever-
Through Emanuel Swedenborg's plan-
I always want to be with my own family, and Emmanuel has shown me how I can-
Emmanuel Swedeborg, has shown me how I can !

You're welcome. ;)

98 posted on 11/26/2011 2:26:56 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: annieokie
""""""Brigham Young, rather than pay for rights to the JST, declares it a fraud after Smith's death. LDS SECT breaks away from mormonism""""....

So it gets deeper, now there is FRAUD within the FRAUD, LDS break away from mormonism and yet still call themselves MORMONs. They are crazy.

I will have to check out that book.

Yes and No, They broke away from mormonism, then claimed the other sects had. Remember all they "They aren't mormons" talk during the FLDS trials ? The LDS Sect is the richest, and that is all.

the big problem is they are trying to co-opt Christianity in the exact same way right now !

Here is an online version of the JST bible....Make them OWN it ! Don't let them post ANYTHING out of the KJV without checking what Joe Smith "fixed" it too. they can have the KJV or Smith, BUT NOT BOTH !

http://www.centerplace.org/hs/iv/default.htm

99 posted on 11/26/2011 2:32:39 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: SENTINEL

Thanks, I will check it out. I never really paid much attention to their cult until recently, just knew it was a devious CULT.


100 posted on 11/26/2011 3:50:35 PM PST by annieokie
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