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DREAM Act supporters outraged at teen suicide
KGBT-TV - ^ | November 28, 2011 | Daisy Martinez

Posted on 11/28/2011 7:21:11 PM PST by moonshinner_09

DREAM Act supporter and Co-Founder of the Tequila Party Movement Shirl Mora James said she’s outraged about the suicide of 18-year-old Joaquin Luna, an illegal immigrant and senior at Juarez Lincoln High School in Mission.

"Maybe it took Joaquin to sacrifice himself, to bring attention to the desperate situation that the Dreamers are in," Mora James said Monday. “These kids are American - they are Americans without status - but they are still Americans!"

Family members said despite Luna’s achievements in school and talent for design, the teen thought he would never reach his goals of becoming an engineer, and providing a better life for his family, since he didn't have a Social Security number to proceed.

"It's unfortunate, but there has been other cases where the kids get desperate (and) they give up,” Mora James said. “This one is more heart wrenching because just last year, were five votes short of passing the DREAM Act."

Cameron County Democratic Party Chair Gilberto Hinojosa said the DREAM Act does not give universal amnesty and most who have analyzed the act, agree it's fair...it's just a few “ultra conservatives” that oppose the act.

"I firmly believe that there's some racist elements to that,” Hinojosa said. “I believe they want to keep America to themselves. They don’t want this country to be the country that it's always been, that welcomes people from all over the world."

Richard Hartwell, founder of the web site Action Dream Team, which also supports the DREAM Act and provides a forum for Dreamers, said Luna’s fears of failing have much merit.

(Excerpt) Read more at valleycentral.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; dreamact; heartless; immigration; newt; perry; tx
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I think there is more to this than just the dream act. They are not Americans.Mentally they may think they are but the reality is they are not citizens of this country. The parents should at this point question themselves was it really worth coming here, instead of trying to shift blame against America. We didn't bring the kid here.
1 posted on 11/28/2011 7:21:17 PM PST by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

I don’t buy the story anyway.

I feel bad for the kid’s family but teen suicides are far more common than they should be and I’m guessing there were other issues that led to it.

As far as I’m concerned, these clowns should be ashamed of themselves for putting the kid out there as some kind of martyr.


2 posted on 11/28/2011 7:24:51 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: moonshinner_09

They are willing, of course, to use this to argue for their cause.

He really was a victim of illegal immigration.


3 posted on 11/28/2011 7:25:30 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: moonshinner_09

How sad his death is being exploited.
How sad that he didn’t just move to one of the states that give free education to illegals.
How sad he didn’t got back to Mexico and attend one of the over 300 colleges they have there.


4 posted on 11/28/2011 7:25:47 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Tell you what; if you ALL commit suicide, we’ll give you anything you want.


5 posted on 11/28/2011 7:27:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("The very idea of a community organizer is to stir up a mob for some political purpose." Ann Coulter)
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To: svcw

Maybe...just maybe...his parents’ decision to move here illegally and make him an illegal was causative. I mean, wouldn’t you be confused? Great parenting there.


6 posted on 11/28/2011 7:28:42 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: moonshinner_09

We beat this to death here last night. It’s all a lie. The kid more than likely had some other reason to commit suicide and the freeloading commie libs are just exploiting his suicide. Never let a good suicide go to waste.


7 posted on 11/28/2011 7:28:54 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: moonshinner_09

He did not kill himself over the DREAM Act unless he was a completely ignorant moron.


8 posted on 11/28/2011 7:28:59 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: moonshinner_09
Since 9/11 50,000 Americans have been killed by illegal aliens. Today is National Remembrance Day for Americans Killed by Illegal Aliens
9 posted on 11/28/2011 7:29:25 PM PST by kabar
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To: moonshinner_09

...are they outraged at the gun company? The parents of this kid? The kid himself?

Or are they mad at us?

We didn’t put the gun in his hand or pull the trigger....


10 posted on 11/28/2011 7:30:11 PM PST by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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"“These kids are American - they are Americans without status - but they are still Americans!"

If you align yourself with a organization called The Race (la razza) and listen to radio stations called The Race (la razza), you will not become a USA American.

11 posted on 11/28/2011 7:31:19 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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...it's just a few “ultra conservatives” that oppose the act.

And the other 99% of Congress is doing what? Democrats say the stupidest things.
12 posted on 11/28/2011 7:32:09 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Two possibilities:

One: The kid killed himself in protest to the failure of the DREAM Act, which means his mind was filled with a lot of nonsense by people pushing a political agenda, or

Two: The kid killed himself for whatever reasons kids do such things, and it has nothing to do with the DREAM Act, which means people are cynically using his death to score cheap political points.

Whichever scenario, these folks should be ashamed of themselves...


13 posted on 11/28/2011 7:33:49 PM PST by Haiku Guy (We don't need to Occupy Wall Street... We need to Occupy K Street!)
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To: moonshinner_09

So they are suggesting that we should give amnesty to all suicidal teenagers?


14 posted on 11/28/2011 7:34:21 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Deaf Smith

You have to understand: They’re (continental) Americans. We’re not. They mostly have some Aztec/Mayan blood. (Even though they still oppress pure Mayans in the south.) We’re still mainly European or African occupiers.


15 posted on 11/28/2011 7:39:38 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (REPEAL WASHINGTON! -- Islam Delenda Est! -- I Want Constantinople Back. -- Rumble thee forth.)
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To: Tzimisce

illegals aren’t allowed to own guns.... this guy was guilty of a felony!


16 posted on 11/28/2011 7:39:38 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: moonshinner_09
>> Tequila Party Movement Shirl Mora James said she’s outraged "Maybe it took Joaquin to sacrifice himself, to bring attention to the desperate situation that the Dreamers are in," Mora James said Monday. “These kids are American - they are Americans without status - but they are still Americans!" <<

I'd like to find this woman's email address and give her a piece of my mind. This "Shirl Mora James" is an idiot. I wonder if she thinks Americans who live in Mexico unlawfully, boo Mexico sports team, and wave the American flag at home are "really Mexican kids without status"

17 posted on 11/28/2011 7:39:42 PM PST by BillyBoy (Illegals for Perry/Gingrich 2012 : Don't be "heartless"/ Be "humane")
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
I qualified by post, ending with USA Americans.
18 posted on 11/28/2011 7:47:36 PM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: moonshinner_09

So, if I sacrifice myself by committing to suicide, will everyone become Christian conservatives and no more poverty in the world? Those are what I want, and following these people’s logic, that’s how things should happen.


19 posted on 11/28/2011 7:47:59 PM PST by paudio (0bama is like a bad mechanic who couldn't fix your car; he just makes it worse. Get somebody else!)
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To: BillyBoy
Too many of these hispanic groups are nothing but front groups for La Raza and their ilk.

The Somos Republicans for example wants the GOP to use the tea party, then toss us aside.

How Un-American is the TEA PARTY

Are they so “irrational” and merely a self-centered group revolutionary geezers that do not hold American ideal and thus attack our American values—Democracy, Capitalism and Constitutionalism. Strategically, it seems like the right thing to do for Republican to utilize the Tea Party to diminish Obama’s agenda. But it is also time for Republicans that realize that this people merely using the flag colors as facade to promote un-American agenda. While they do have the right to dissent, sadly, their agenda pushed by special interest in Sacramento and D.C. do not embody the original best American values.
20 posted on 11/28/2011 7:48:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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