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Case of 200-pound 8-year-old in Ohio renews question: Should parents of obese lose custody?
Star Tribune ^ | 11/29/11 | THOMAS J. SHEERAN

Posted on 11/29/2011 5:49:42 AM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather

This is just one step toward the goal of giving the state the ability to take any child away from their parents for the slightest reason. Next is declaring certain parent’s beliefs dangerous to their children and taking kids away on that pretext. We’ve already seen this with the couple who had their kids taken away because they named their son “Hitler” and gave Nazi names to other children. The ultimate goal is to take children away from Christian parents whose religious beliefs conflict with socialist, secular ideologies and anyone else who dares to confront the state. The only thing Orwell got wrong was the date.


61 posted on 11/29/2011 7:16:42 AM PST by circlecity
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To: tickmeister

That’s what his doctors said

but hey- freepers are so much smarter than the doctors and social workers


62 posted on 11/29/2011 7:17:18 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: silverleaf

“Do you not think that over the past 20 months social services has not tried all of that?”

I don’t have any idea what Social Services tried/didn’t try or offered in way of help. I don’t have a great deal of trust in Social Services. I have seen where they have sent home a toddler from the hospital with cigarette burns all over her little body. Sent home to the same idiot who was burning her in the first place. With so much emphasis right now on a certain weight, there is the possibility that an over-reaction has occurred. To separate a boy from his parents and shove him into a foster home (where people are paid for each child they take) is not helping the child IMHO. He’s eight years old and now living with strangers whose primary goal is to make him thin. No goal of psychological support, love, compassion. This will all pan out in court and the family has a PUBLIC DEFENDER. Public defenders are not known as money grubbing lawyers.


63 posted on 11/29/2011 7:18:34 AM PST by momtothree
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To: silverleaf

I have read the book, silverleaf. Apples and oranges. The child in the book was starved, beaten, psychologically screwed with beyond imagination by his nut job Mom. That child should have been taken and it was a shame that he dealt with so much horror before he was. This isn’t any way similar. IMHO.


64 posted on 11/29/2011 7:22:03 AM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

60 some odd posts and no one mentions Prader-Willi syndrome, which is CLEARLY not the fault of the parents.


65 posted on 11/29/2011 7:25:37 AM PST by JusPasenThru (HEY UNION MEMBER: INVEST IN YOUR OWN DAMN INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A CHANGE!)
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To: Libloather

By a show of flames, how many who think the government overstepped here also felt that they shouldn’t have returned Eliene Gonzalez to his father in cuba, simply because we disagree with his politics?
I see the two opinions as contradicting each other.


66 posted on 11/29/2011 7:26:47 AM PST by LevinFan
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To: TexasCajun

Urban Meyer already has a commitment from the kid :)


67 posted on 11/29/2011 7:28:15 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal!)
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To: momtothree

This whole thing went before a judge-
the courts are notoriously reluctant to take kids out of families, I know.... Just try adopting one, read about all they go through before the system steps in and takes them

The question here is not of obesity, but of morbid obesity and a family’s failure to control it after 20 months of supervised home treatment and intervention

Big difference- esp since this kid is still only 8 years old

Morbid obesity has severe medical consequences if left untreated. Knowing the court system a bit, I also expect the doctors have documented for the courts their diagnosis and expectation he could recover with proper treatment they no longer believe he can get at home


68 posted on 11/29/2011 7:31:36 AM PST by silverleaf (common sense is not so common- voltaire)
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To: Libloather
Absolutely not. I've spoken before about my kid brother who had a rare juvenile disease, one side effect of which was obesity.

This whole thing really pisses me off.

69 posted on 11/29/2011 7:31:36 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Libloather
Absolutely not. I've spoken before about my kid brother who had a rare juvenile disease, one side effect of which was obesity.

This whole thing really pisses me off.

70 posted on 11/29/2011 7:31:47 AM PST by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: nonamer
I once knew a 10 year old boy that weighed 205 pounds. His mother was also severely obese ...

We have an 11 yr old kid in our neighborhood who weighs over 200 lbs. His 12 yr old brother is just over 100 lbs. Both parents are normal. This kid can run like any other kid, but he could be a real threat to any pee wee football player.

71 posted on 11/29/2011 7:32:33 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: PENANCE

That is what I meant, Penance. A child brought into the E.R. at 18 months with a skull fracture and cigarette burns on his/her body... should be removed for the child’s safety until the investigation is done. Now, if something odd occurred (a babysitter, a visiting relative) then fine. BUT, if the so called parent did this... the child should be removed permanently. Just because you give birth to a child doesn’t give you the God given right to beat the crap out of him or kill them. I think we’re agreeing here.


72 posted on 11/29/2011 7:37:45 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Libloather

And how many stories have we read where kids were starved and nothing was done??? Where was DSHS then? Only when the kid was dead did they show up to investigate.


73 posted on 11/29/2011 7:39:47 AM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: JusPasenThru

I would love to see what Social Services offered in assistance before resorting to the drastic measure of removing the child. For example, did the child get a FULL medical work-up to rule out some sort of medical/inherited disorder? Were the parents assisted with the help of a nutritionist? Were the parents given clear guidelines? How often did Social Services visit/call the parents? Was it once a month or once every 12 months? A lot of questions remain unanswered in my book.


74 posted on 11/29/2011 7:40:57 AM PST by momtothree
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Great tag line.


75 posted on 11/29/2011 7:55:33 AM PST by rightly_dividing
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To: Bob Buchholz

Obviously he is eating every waking minute of the day


76 posted on 11/29/2011 8:14:37 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: silverleaf

If wishes were fishes. Is it a problem, yes. Is removing him from the home going to fix it, no.


77 posted on 11/29/2011 8:21:07 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Libloather

What about babies born at 13 or more pounds in weight named, “Jihad”?


78 posted on 11/29/2011 8:25:20 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: NEMDF

Should the obese lose custody of their own bodies? This is what we are coming to. This child has to have a problem. It’s the medical communities reliance on pills to treat symptoms rather than solve problems that is deteriorating the medical care in this country and the health of individuals. If there was a pill to take that would make everyone thin, it would be the top selling prescription. However, actually doing tests on the body to determine an underlying medical condition is too far beyond the ability of most doctors. I know of what I speak, I went through this for 15 years until I coughed up thousands of dollars out of pocket for a Dr. that actually cures disease.


79 posted on 11/29/2011 8:32:55 AM PST by No Socialist
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To: woodbutcher1963
He sounds like the dude from the movie “The Blind Side”.

Michael Oher ping... (OK, really a Sandra Bullock ping)

80 posted on 11/29/2011 8:33:53 AM PST by folkquest
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