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Why They Destroyed Cain in the Primary
11-29-2011 | willk

Posted on 11/29/2011 6:21:30 PM PST by willk

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To: willk

Every time I hear conventional wisdom about how Obama is more afraid of Romney than anyone, I think if Braer Rabbit.


81 posted on 11/29/2011 8:40:37 PM PST by RainMan (Newt - An actual plan that solves illegals without amnesty, unlike your candidate. Gingrich/Palin)
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To: willk
Whichever candidate the dems and the msm go after the hardest, is usually the one they fear the most.

Cain is a smart guy, but I'm afraid his days as a candidate are numbered; it doesn't matter if the accusations are true - at this point - the very fact that they have been made in such a "fast and furious" manner, will just about put a fork in his chances for the nomination.

I could be wrong, but it's coming at him from all sides now.

The left/msm is picking them off like a turkey shoot, first Palin, now Cain, and they're working on Newt.

However, they love Romney...but they loved John McCain too, and the reason is they know he has little chance in beating obama because so many conservatives don't care much for ol' Mitt. He's just an elongated version of McCain.
82 posted on 11/29/2011 8:53:36 PM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: big'ol_freeper

“Piss”

Is “piss” the only word in your vocabulary? You’ve been “pissing” all over just about every thread you get on. It’s such a low brow word, that you seem to love to use. Your base mentality is showing.


83 posted on 11/29/2011 8:55:02 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: willk
(notice too how Cain initially suspected Newt and not Romney).

Where did you hear that? I never heard Cain accuse Newt. I think he first accused someone who worked for Perry?

84 posted on 11/29/2011 8:57:42 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: One Name

Here’s what I have against Newt: (1) He was rather silent during Clinton impeachment proceedings, probably because he himself was having an affair at the time; (2) After the victory was basically won in 1994 they decided to NOT shut down the government - I thought that was chickening out and cutting and running; (3) Soft on immigration; (4) Made an ad with Nancy Pelosi.

But if he turns out to be the nominee, of course I will support him.


85 posted on 11/29/2011 9:11:12 PM PST by Saundra Duffy ( For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: OrioleFan
Axelrod machine

Indeed, these are Astroturf bimbos. It's not just that none of them seems to have any evidence. It's the other traits: They're all Nat'l Restaurant Ass'n (Chicago) connections. They're all bankrupt or broke, so they have nothing to lose in a libel suit. They're unmarried, so they have no family to embarrass. In their dreams, they have at least rent money to gain from notoriety. And I notice they're all steering clear of courtrooms, so they can't be jailed for perjury.

86 posted on 11/29/2011 9:56:01 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: garbanzo
Face it, the nominee will be Romney and we get another 4-8 years of “compassionate conservatism” if he wins.

I am afraid you are right. I support Cain, but suspected that he was running for the VP slot. He would do more for a Mittens candidacy than Sarah did for McLame. That's why he has to be destroyed before he can get the VP nomination.

87 posted on 11/29/2011 10:00:48 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: Tail Gunner John

“Newt will beat obama in the general. The classic way for the dems to win is to keep the conservative Republican base home. Romney accomplishes this. Once Newt is nominated and the focus is on his ideas the base will come around. After three debates with obama Newt will lead by 10+ points.”

Finally, a clear head in the house. Thanks.


88 posted on 11/29/2011 10:34:45 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Obama in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: willk

More “brilliant” armchair analysis. Cain would be the easiest of all of them to beat, so there is no “they”, because “they” would do everything “they” could have to keep Cain in the race. Imagine if all this crap was happening during the general. Some wacko accuses Cain of an affair and suddenly he decides to “reasses” his campaign. Hoo boy. That would have been great. NOT. THANK GOD this is happening now. If there is a “they”, we owe them a debt of gratitude.


89 posted on 11/29/2011 10:52:04 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Brokered convention:
This could be a disaster. I wonder if some on this board knows how that works.
There are precinct conventions the night of the election after the polls are closed. Delegates are chosen for the county convention. What happened last time, is, Ron Paul’s people had this figured out. They hit the precinct conventions and got their people selected as delegates to the county convention. In some cases, they took over the precinct conventions - got their person selected to run the precinct convention.

Next stop was the county convention. Since their people were selected at the precinct convention, there they were. They got their people selected to the state convention. At the state convention, they got their people selected to go to the national convention.

Now, you have a national convention with the delegaqtes being Ron Paul’s delegates.

Are you sure you want a brokered convention when all the delegates are for Ron Paul?

You see, this could have completely happened last time. Since not all the delegates from the precinct conventions were Paul people, we managed to vote enough non-Paul people to have a majority of non-Paul people at the state convention. We spent time finding Paul people at the state convention and electing enough non-Paul people so the majority of our delegates weren’t Paul people at the national convention.

Do you go to your precinct convention to become a delegate to the county convention to become a delegate to the state convention to become a delegate to the national convention??

Think about it do you really want a brokered convention? If you do, you had better try to become a delegate yourself to the national convention. Don’t leave it to others to do that because some candidates know how that works. You can count on Paul people to try to stack those conventions with their people. I think it will be worse than last time.

I am totally serious about this.


90 posted on 11/29/2011 11:03:00 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Obama in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Brokered convention:
This could be a disaster. I wonder if some on this board knows how that works.
There are precinct conventions the night of the election after the polls are closed. Delegates are chosen for the county convention. What happened last time, is, Ron Paul’s people had this figured out. They hit the precinct conventions and got their people selected as delegates to the county convention. In some cases, they took over the precinct conventions - got their person selected to run the precinct convention.

Next stop was the county convention. Since their people were selected at the precinct convention, there they were. They got their people selected to the state convention. At the state convention, they got their people selected to go to the national convention.

Now, you have a national convention with the delegaqtes being Ron Paul’s delegates.

Are you sure you want a brokered convention when all the delegates are for Ron Paul?

You see, this could have completely happened last time. Since not all the delegates from the precinct conventions were Paul people, we managed to vote enough non-Paul people to have a majority of non-Paul people at the state convention. We spent time finding Paul people at the state convention and electing enough non-Paul people so the majority of our delegates weren’t Paul people at the national convention.

Do you go to your precinct convention to become a delegate to the county convention to become a delegate to the state convention to become a delegate to the national convention??

Think about it do you really want a brokered convention? If you do, you had better try to become a delegate yourself to the national convention. Don’t leave it to others to do that because some candidates know how that works. You can count on Paul people to try to stack those conventions with their people. I think it will be worse than last time.

I am totally serious about this.


91 posted on 11/29/2011 11:04:54 PM PST by Marcella (Newt will smash Obama in debates. Newt needs money.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
I am sure there is no consensus among Dems who the toughest opponent would be.

Don't worry. They all will get the marching orders by morning of who they want to see against Obama.
92 posted on 11/29/2011 11:08:38 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: napscoordinator
Vote Perry on 12 NOVEMBER 2012.

Now that's what I call coordination! (As for naps, I don't know what that is ...)

93 posted on 11/29/2011 11:14:27 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: willk
Why did they are they trying to destroy Cain in the primary?

Obviously because they can't risk him being the nominee. The danger to progress is positively palpable! Why, at least 50 of the 57 states would go over to the dark side!

94 posted on 11/29/2011 11:21:03 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: South Dakota
Obama needs a rich white guy to run against, not a well spoken successful black man.

You are absolutely correct. The Obama folk are in some way involved as the particularly do not want to run against Cain as president or vice president. To have Newt in the mix will cause telepromter errors etc. He will be fumbling over his works and getting real nasty.... lots of lies and false statements.

Worse he will have surrogates doing it for him where ever he can, Trumpke, Washerman "Shultz, what ever. I bet van Jones gets to speak for the President also. None of this will be pretty.
95 posted on 11/29/2011 11:25:08 PM PST by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: DBrow

“I disagree, they are drooling to get Romney as the only pubbie candidate, he’s the most beatable”

I agree with you. But why are all the Repub elites and “experts” so gung ho on him? Do they want BHO to be re-elected? I get sick of hearing all of them say Mittens is the “only candidate who can win”.


96 posted on 11/29/2011 11:55:15 PM PST by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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To: garbanzo
Face it, the nominee will be Romney and we get another 4-8 years of “compassionate conservatism” if he wins.

We'll get another Northeast/Harvard liberal whether we like it or not. No one, and I mean no one from any other part of America will grace the White House- not if "they" have anything to do with it.

Reagan was not from the New England, was not a big-government advocate, and he took a bullet in the lung. "Those" who intend to run this country (as they have many years now) will not let another 'outsider' anywhere near POTUS.

The Big Government Boys (BGB) will pick our candidate because they like big government, it makes money for them, and they aren't about to ditch Big Government. The guy running against Obama (who is destined to lose) will be the biggest of the BGB in the Republican party- this time.

The BGB found a way to get to Sarah Palin and are working on Cain, currently. Notice how McRomney goes unscathed? This is no accident. By now, three more letters ought to come to mind: MSM. Isn't it funny how they always attack anyone percieved as an outsider? What did they call Reagan? Sarah? Guess who "owns" them? BGB, that's who.

Enter Newt. Georgia boy with known 'faithfulness' issues. The BGB may think he's with them, but then again, maybe not. If he can't convince them that he's 'with them', they'll take him out in favor of the next best BGB candidate.

Did I say, "take him out"? Yes I did because this group will not take 'no' for an answer. At this point we should understand that our country is being 'run' by a criminal enterprise who wants Big Government and will get it at any cost. No one gets in their way. No one.

Where does all of this lead? To statism (gee, we seem to have plenty of that), to tyranny (boy, the states' don't have the clout they used to), to totalitarianism (need a student loan? see the government, assface).

Nothing is more obvious than the obvious. The TEA party is a serious threat to this cabal and look at how they've been marginalized. F*cking domestict terrorist by HLS standards, while OWS sleepingbaggers, who want to overthrow capitalism get a pass-in-the-park. Uh, does anyone else smell a Rat? I do.

Anyone whose made it this far must realize by now that tyranny didn't just arrive when Congress decided to force you to buy a healthcare policy. It's been here for a long time.

Remember when you could have a bunch of like-minded friends over at your 'compound' in Waco and it wasn't burned to the ground, killing everyone inside? Remember when you could sell a sawed-off shotgun to a buddie and some Japanese sharpshooter didn't blow your wife's brains out while standing in the kitchen holding a baby? Those were the days, weren't they?

Remember when Al Gore and Joe Lieberman tried to beat George Bush- the phony Texan from Kinnebunkport, Maine? We got Bush and the BGB got a Northeastern Liberal. They won, again. Either way, they weren't going to lose, were they?

If we, The People, have any chance to win, it will have to be with a stealth candidate. It'll have to be someone who can fool the BGB like Reagan did by voting for abortion in California and amnesty in '86. Or, we will not win. Unless you think Kevlar, bullets, and an army of patriots can pull it off once again, because these are our options.

The average joe hasn't a clue what we're up against. It's La la land and starbucks for them. The most significant election in our nation's history is about to take place and the odds of defeating the BGB are almost nill.

97 posted on 11/30/2011 1:18:17 AM PST by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: flaglady47; Jim Robinson
Is “piss” the only word in your vocabulary? You’ve been “pissing” all over just about every thread you get on. It’s such a low brow word, that you seem to love to use. Your base mentality is showing.

It's a quote from Jim Robinson. Take it up with him.

I'll repeat it again for you. Piss on Romney.

98 posted on 11/30/2011 2:25:02 AM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: willk
How about: Romney is a whore like his daddy was? Romney poses as whatever he thinks people want to hear. Principles mean absolutely nothing to Romney who is only interested in his endless and usually quite unsuccessful pursuit of personal and political power. Romney gleefully pursued a career in the private sector sending the jobs of rank and file Americans to Third World hellholes where the workers can be gotten for a dime an hour since that enhanced the corporate bottom line for his fellow trust funmd baby investors. So what if the interests of rank and file Americans were gutted in the process? He has been on every side of the issues that really count (although not for him and the polo pony set): baby-killing, marriage as being a relationship between one man and one woman, gun rights, and an end to facilitating businesses sending jobs abroad.

Puhleeeeeze! He would be able to get more of the "women's vote" presumably because he can be counted on to keep the babykilling rolling along and to appoint SCOTUS justices who will support the mass murdering status quo, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum ad nauseam.

The Mittwit has sunk so low as to actually accuse Gingrich of being a lifelong politician!!! Of course, that is because, unlike the Mittwit, Gingrich has been elected every time he is the GOP nominee since his very first election to Congress. Mittwit does not deign to address his other GOP opponents, the ones who soooooo embarrass the gentleman class like the Mittster (the dependably social conservative ones and militarily dependable ones, the ones who are the backbone of the country and not of the country club) and depending on money almighty, his Harvard pedigree and a sycophant media to nominate him. The media would turn on him soon enough if he were nominated and he would be a deer in the headlights as soon as that happens just as McLame was in 2008. Fortunately we and the USA need not worry since Mittwit will never be nominated.

Don't anyone be tempted to prop up the politically dead Mittster at the expense of all of the good Mormons (the overwhelming majority of that faith) by suggesting that the opposition to the Mittwit is rooted in some sort of bigotry against his Mormon faith. If he had been as dependably pro-life and pro-family and pro-American as are serious Mormons, he would have enthusiastic backing across all Christianity. He has been campaigning forever and has manifestly failed to convince GOP voters so far and there is no reason to believe that Mittwit is going anywhere but DOWN in his quest for the GOP nomination and a good thing too! See today's Gallup poll on the collapse of his ratings for intensity of support.

99 posted on 11/30/2011 3:16:41 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: SamuraiScot

Funny we haven’t heard from Gloria All Red since the initial presser where she told her client to shut up about her makeover. I’m headed to Herman Cain event today.


100 posted on 11/30/2011 6:17:13 AM PST by OrioleFan
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