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AFA announced their "naughty or nice" list, retailers that support or oppose Christmas
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Posted on 11/30/2011 7:25:07 AM PST by Gopher Broke

As the Christmas shopping season begins full swing, AFA and has prepared its annual "Naughty or Nice" retailer list. We have taken the top 100 national retailers and reviewed their websites, media advertising and in-store signage in an effort to help you know which companies are Christmas-friendly.

Over the past five years, your AFA/OMM has stood firm in the "War on Christmas." Companies who once refused to acknowledge Christmas now have Christmas "shops" inside their stores. Many of them now liberally use "Christmas" in their advertising and in-store signage. Sadly, there are still some companies which refuse to use "Christmas." They continue to insult and offend Christian shoppers by sticking with their politically correct "holiday" term. We have also included the stores that joyfully acknowledge Christmas.

Click on the "Naughty or Nice" link to find out where you can feel good about spending your hard earned money because these businesses share the same beliefs as you do at CHRISTmas! Happy Shopping!

If you do not feel right about a purchase you have already made remember you can always return it and give your business elsewhere. Let us know if you find a retailer who needs to be placed on the “Naughty or Nice” list.

TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: afa; antichristian; antichristmas; christmas; retail

1 posted on 11/30/2011 7:25:12 AM PST by Gopher Broke
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2 posted on 11/30/2011 7:25:36 AM PST by Gopher Broke (Repeal Obamacare !!)
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To: Gopher Broke

I just heard our downtown has decided on “Happy Holidays” as their salutation. Guess I’ll have to shop where Jesus is the reason for the season.

3 posted on 11/30/2011 7:28:37 AM PST by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!)
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To: Gopher Broke

Please post the list for us “gateway” limited people.

4 posted on 11/30/2011 7:28:54 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

Companies FOR “Christmas”

AFA Online Store
ACE Hardware
Bass Pro Shops
Bed Bath & Beyond
Best Buy
Big Lots
Collective Brands
CVS Pharmacy
Dick’s Sporting Goods
Dollar General
Family Dollar
H.E.B. Stores
Hancock Fabrics
Harris Teeter Stores
Hobby Lobby
Home Shopping Network
JC Penney
JoAnn Fabrics & Crafts Stores
Michael’s Stores
Neiman Marcus
Office Max
Pier One Imports
Rite Aid
Scheels Sporting Goods
Super D Drug Stores
TJ Maxx
Toys R Us
True Value
Wal-Mart/Sam’s Club

Companies marginal on “Christmas”
Bath & Body Works
Dollar Tree
Hy-Vee Stores
Limited Brands
Whole Foods

Companies AGAINST “Christmas”

Banana Republic
Barnes & Noble
Foot Locker
Gap Stores
L.L. Bean
Limited Brands
Office Depot
Old Navy
Radio Shack
Victoria’s Secret

5 posted on 11/30/2011 7:32:06 AM PST by Gopher Broke (Repeal Obamacare !!)
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Call me a liberal, but I’m less “militant” on this issue than I used to be.

I have acquaintances all over the globe, and while I’m not trying to sell them anything, I recognize that a lot are not Christian, so if I issue a worldwide holiday greeting from my family, I’m likely to say Happy Holidays.

I see the “antis” on the list are big-name companies across the world. Would Victoria’s secret sell fewer garments to muslims by using the words Merry Christmas? Maybe so.

Who am I to decree what holidays private companies recognize? I can certainly not buy from them if their choice of recognized holidays offends me. For example, I probably would not buy anything from Kwanzoo pushers, or anyone who supports its torturer founder Karenga, but I’m not going to waste time telling everyone what a monster he or the company is.

I offended someone here a couple of weeks ago by saying Happy Holidays when it wasn’t even Thanksgiving yet, got dressed down for not using Christmas. Thought that was over the top.

I just don’t see it as much of a hugh deal.

6 posted on 11/30/2011 7:40:17 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Gopher Broke

Dropped some cash on Amazon on cyber Mon - glad to see them on the “For” list...
But question Macy’s on “For”...
They have used Susan Sarandon, “peace signs”, and other not-too-conservative-friendly entities in their ads...
Macy’s is presently on my “To Boycott” list.

7 posted on 11/30/2011 7:42:44 AM PST by matginzac
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To: treetopsandroofs
Merry Christmas is Not Offensive -- Jews Should Protect Religious Freedom for Everyone Rabbi Daniel Lapin

It is a big deal :-)

8 posted on 11/30/2011 7:44:37 AM PST by mewzilla (Santelli 2012)
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To: treetopsandroofs

I think you make some good points. However, I think the reason some conservatives are “militant” on the issue is because it’s clear that there has been a concerted effort to eliminate the word “Christmas” from our language.

A few years ago, you did not hear the word “Christmas” used in advertising or promotions. Now we see that word is returning. It was puzzling to me that the word describing the holiday celebrated by 96% of Americans had disappeared from the public vocabulary. We know that happened due to political correctness, but we’re not supposed to say anything.

We should not be decreeing what holidays private companies reconize; you have a good point. However, it’s clear which holiday during the “holiday season” is the one which triggers the most gift giving. And that holiday is called Christmas.

I see your point about this not being a huge deal, however, it’s a huge deal to the other side to eliminate the word “Christmas”, and I think that’s why there is such push back nowadays on that issue. These companies are making sales due to Christmas, not due to a generic holiday season, so it’s gratifying to many of us to hear them acknowledge that the holiday is Christmas.

9 posted on 11/30/2011 7:49:04 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Gopher Broke

HA! I see Target has finally got religion!
They were a perennial scofflaw on this list.

For a company that is against Christmas, Victoria’s Secret sure bombards me with SPAM emails this time of year. (made one online purchase for the wife several years ago and now I’m in the Database From Hell.)

10 posted on 11/30/2011 7:49:11 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: treetopsandroofs

Not to mention the term Holidays has a religious practice connotation to. It comes from Holy Days and was meant to represent the season that included Advent.

11 posted on 11/30/2011 7:49:51 AM PST by mnehring
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To: Gopher Broke
I notice that L L Bean is the only major sporting goods store that is anti-Christmas. Boycott those liberal pukes.
12 posted on 11/30/2011 7:50:38 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Gopher Broke

What’s AFA stand for?

13 posted on 11/30/2011 7:50:53 AM PST by Artemis Webb
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To: treetopsandroofs

People are trying to marginalize Christianity any which way they can. It is my opinion and only my opinion, but I believe that to the extent that Christianity grows and prospers in this country that this country will have a bright future. If we allow Christianity to be marginalized and demonized, I think this country will shrivel and die. As I said it is just my opinion, but I think it is more than a big deal. I think that if we don’t hold the line and push back against the anti Christian forces that our country has no future. Supporting Christmas is just one small part of this.

14 posted on 11/30/2011 7:52:03 AM PST by Essie
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To: Artemis Webb

am guessing American Family Association

15 posted on 11/30/2011 7:52:30 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Essie

Clearly those folks are unfamiliar with the Soviet Union’s failed 70 year attempt to stamp out Christianity with jackbooted thuggery and police terror.

16 posted on 11/30/2011 7:58:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gopher Broke

I don’t automatically assume use of the term “happy holidays” is related to a “war on Christmas”. That term has been in use since at least the 40s and probably before. I’d probably have to look at the retailer’s behavior as a whole to make a determination.

17 posted on 11/30/2011 8:02:04 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Former Fetus; Bockscar; Graybeard58; JLLH; Outlaw Woman; StarCMC; AZ .44 MAG; prairiebreeze; ...

Baptist ping

18 posted on 11/30/2011 8:02:46 AM PST by WKB (Anything Obama: "What a revoltin' development this is")
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Does anyone know whether Target still bans the Salvation Army bell ringers from their properties?

Beyond the Christmas boycott (which I observe scrupulously) that is a very big item on my boycott list.

I have worked with the Salvation Army during disasters and no one is on site earlier and no one does it better. An awesome organization.

I might add, during WWII, when the Red Cross was in back of the front lines by 20 miles or so, the Salvation Army was at the front lines delivering hot coffee and doughnuts to the troops within a few hundred yards of the German lines. Hot doughnuts, BTW.

19 posted on 11/30/2011 8:09:00 AM PST by buffaloguy
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Are retailers like LLBean really trying to “marginalize” Christmas, or include Hannukah? I’m quite sure Bean has a large number of Jewish customers, as do the other retailers on the list.
I am a Christian and have no problem with “Happy Holidays”. As a child I knew it could, and did, include Christmas and New Year’s. I never heard of Hannukah until I got to college.
IMO, the AFA is carrying this too far and contributing to the perception that Christians are petty and mean.

20 posted on 11/30/2011 8:09:03 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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21 posted on 11/30/2011 8:10:05 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC:DONATE MONTHLY! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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Target banned the Salvation Army bell ringers (along with some malls and some other chains which have since gone out of business) on the advice of legal counsel.

It is basically all about remaining non-union. Most retailers have a blanket non-solicitation on the premises policy to keep union organizers out of the building.

If you make one exception, even for something as altruistic as the Salvation Army, the UFCW is liable to come down on you with a ton of lawyers and demand equal treatment.

There is a bell ringer outside my local WalMart, so apparently they are willing to take that risk. But many aren’t. I know Target recently fought a big anti-union battle in it’s home state of Minnesota.

22 posted on 11/30/2011 8:19:05 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Gopher Broke

My approach is quite simple, you either say Merry Christmas AND have a Salvation Army bell ringer out front, or you don’t get my money.

23 posted on 11/30/2011 8:21:09 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: SouthTexas

I’m scheduled to ring the Salvation Army bell this Friday at our local Walmart. It’s actually fun. Volunteer to do this sometime and see.

24 posted on 11/30/2011 8:35:39 AM PST by Texan
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Thank you for your effort. Think I’ll stay on the other side of the kettle though. :)

25 posted on 11/30/2011 8:43:40 AM PST by SouthTexas (You cannot bargain with the devil, shut the government down.)
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To: Gopher Broke
Active duty Army here. I got an email this morning from the post Chaplain inviting everybody to his Holiday Tree Lighting Ceremony; the email was sent to everybody on post. I forwarded the email to my boss telling him that I was thinking about telling the post Chaplain that my company and I will be attending a Christmas Tree ceremony and will not be able to attend his Holiday Tree ceremony.

I also received the post December community calendar in my email this morning. Nowhere does the word Christmas appear anywhere on the list of activities and events that are happening on post this month.

There is a bowling tournament called Bowl with Santa and an event called JingleJam, but the word Chistmas doesn't appear anywhere.

26 posted on 11/30/2011 11:32:55 AM PST by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: matginzac

For what it is worth. I am a seasonal worker at Macy’s. When I was in training, I asked about preferred greetings to customers. The answer was that they love Christmas and it is part of the company’s heritage; use Merry Christmas (if it’s your preference) but try to be sensitive to the customer. Most of us use Merry Christmas consistently. Large companies are going to have a hard time passing the Freeper purity test due to celebrity use or whatever.

Just to note to all regarding Target. I worked there a few years ago as a Team Lead (manager of the front end of the store). No, they didn’t allow SA to ring bells in the front, but this was due to the overwhelming number of requests that the store got.

While I was there, there must have been a half dozen groups wanting space over the Christmas season; some even threatened boycotts citing the bad press over the SA. The local store had no say; corporately they decided that if you let one in you have to let them all in. Not everbody wants to be accosted by bell ringers, girl scouts, soccer teams, Sierra Club etc. when they go shopping. I don’t mind myself, but it can be a bit much sometimes. Hooray for Wal-Mart if they can somehow walk that line, but I understand and accept Target’s position.

As far as SA goes, the year I worked at Target they gave the SA $1M plus the proceeds of an exclusive SA ornament that they sold at the stores. I expect that that was as much as SA might have gotten through it’s kettles without any of the work. Target is a strong supporter of local groups and charities. Again, as a large corporation, they do what they can but you can’t make everyone happy.

27 posted on 11/30/2011 12:09:11 PM PST by cephalopod (I am a Viking of some note, Knut's my name and here I float.)
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Does anybody know if Wallmart still matches every dollar put into the S.A. kettle, cause nobody at Wallmart (or for that matter the S.A. bell-ringers) do. I heard about it a few years ago and have made it a point to give at those locations, but the last few years, nobody seems to know anything about it so I guess it's no longer being done.
28 posted on 11/30/2011 3:21:40 PM PST by ADemocratNoMore (Jeepers, Freepers, where'd 'ya get those sleepers?. Pj people, exposing old media's lies.)
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To: Gopher Broke

I use both “Merry Christmas” and “Happy Holidays” because for me the “holidays” encompass an entire season which includes Christmas but also the New Year. I only get upset if there is a deliberate attempt to remove Nativity scenes, silence Christians about Christmas, call the Christmas tree a “Holiday Tree” or some other comparable nonsense. I don’t consider a business to be “against” Christmas if they say “Happy Holidays” rather than “Merry Christmas” because “Holidays” mean more than just Dec. 25th to many.

29 posted on 11/30/2011 5:43:00 PM PST by JLLH
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To: MEGoody

I agree. The whole behavior means much more than just the particular phrase they use or don’t use.

30 posted on 11/30/2011 5:45:36 PM PST by JLLH
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Thank you! I had not seen this.

Thankfully, my “naughty or nice” radar is very good.

I had NO idea! lol

31 posted on 12/01/2011 11:40:01 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Proud barbarian TEA Party SOB and, apparently, an evil Capitalist.)
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To: buffaloguy

I understand that the reason Target, Walmart, Home Depot... do not allow ANY solicitation on their premises is because of the unions. It’s a legal thing, they have a blanket policy: No Solicitation. If they even allow Girl Scout cookies, it opens the door for open union solicitation.

So that unfortunately includes many good organizations such as the Salvation Army.

32 posted on 12/03/2011 8:36:20 PM PST by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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