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Issa says Holder ouster is up to White House
The Washington Times ^ | Friday, December 2, 2011 | Chuck Neubauer

Posted on 12/02/2011 5:42:28 PM PST by DaveTesla

Rep. Darrell Issa, who has been investigating the Fast and Furious operation for nearly a year, declined on Friday to call for Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to resign over the botched undercover probe that led to hundreds of weapons being “walked” to gun smugglers in Mexico.

Mr. Issa, California Republican, said the operation is not about Mr. Holder or Assistant Attorney General Lanny Breuer, the head of the Justice Department’s criminal division, both of whom he has criticized strongly over their handling of the failed Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosive’s (ATF) investigation.

“It is not about one person,” said Mr. Issa, chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, during a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor.

“It is about a failure that seems to be pervasive within Justice that investigations play fast and loose with the expectations of what is right or wrong when it comes to what I am going to call collateral damage,” he said.

In addition to as many as 1,400 weapons that found their way into Mexico, other guns — including AK-47 semi-automatic assault rifles — have been found at crimes scenes, including two at the site of the shooting death of U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian A. Terry, killed during a gunfight with Mexicans just north of the border near Nogales, Ariz.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aft; banglist; castaway; cia; clinton; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gopcowards; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryclinton; holder; ice; issa; murder; obama; statedept
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To: MestaMachine

Not everything is as it seems.

I get the feeling Issa is not folding, but simply continuing to play his hand.


41 posted on 12/02/2011 6:49:48 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: thouworm

Holder is suppose to testify before the House Judiciary Committee on Dec. 8, probably why this letter was dumped today.


42 posted on 12/02/2011 6:50:26 PM PST by opentalk
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To: MestaMachine

“The fbi was involved in this up to its eyeballs and is at least partially responsible for Brian Terry’s death.”

Not only that, but I just read this tonight. It is taken from Ann Barnhardt’s blog. I have broken up into paragraphs for easier reading.

She has been giving a series of alternative radio interviews (not for the faint of heart) and has been turning down all MSM TV & most MSM radio requests to be interviewed about her “going galt” and closing her brokerage after the collapse of MF Global.

Below is a comment sent to her at her blog from a former FBI agent.

Ann,

I just listened to your interview on financial sense. I am a retired FBI White Collar Crime Supervisor who supervised a Securities Fraud Desk, in the {city name redacted} Division, prior to retiring in {year redacted}. Your analysis of the CME, the Obama Administration, and the sad state of our republic is right on the money.

In addition, your 8(a) minority, affirmative action hire comment could not be more true. The effectiveness of federal law enforcement has been jeopardized by the politically correct hiring practices ongoing since George Herbert Walker Bush was elected President in 1988. My squad was responsible for the investigation of complex, white collar crime investigations (primarily securities fraud and corporate fraud).

My career in the FBI spanned 24 years in five field divisions including New York, and FBI Headquarters. When I began my career, hires and promotion were merit based. The quality of agents working complex white collar crime investigations was high, most having worked for big eight accounting firms or brokerage houses prior to hire by the FBI. By the time I retired, minority and female agents were being assigned to my squad with no pertinent qualifications, and no apparent talent, dedication, work ethic or experience.

As a result, senior agents had to double up on complex investigations, and my minimum threshold for initiating investigation was dramatically increased to assure the greatest offenders were addressed adequately. Needless to say, cases that should have been addressed were no longer addressed due to the lack of qualified agents capable of successfully investigating and taking through trial, complex white collar crime cases.

After 9.11 the FBI all but abandoned complex criminal investigations, and transformed itself from the premier law enforcement agency in the world to a fourth rate domestic spy agency more concerned with violating citizens constitutional rights in the name of “protecting the general public from terrorism” than in completing its primary mission, enforcing Title 18 of the US Criminal Code.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2815436/posts


43 posted on 12/02/2011 6:53:16 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Jonty30; Windflier

Obama isn’t leaving for Hawaii vacation until the 17th. Back on Jan 2.


44 posted on 12/02/2011 6:55:12 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: MestaMachine
Issa FOLDING?????????????

I don't think so, I think he is playing rope a dope. And throwing it not the usurpers hands. saying "You appointed him, you deal with it, but understood this, he is a campaign issue."

45 posted on 12/02/2011 6:57:14 PM PST by JakeS (This would be a good time to read John chapter three 1-21)
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To: thouworm

That only gives Issa more time to sift through the documents.


46 posted on 12/02/2011 6:58:40 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, than he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: DaveTesla

LOl, nutless wonder GOP.


47 posted on 12/02/2011 6:59:59 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: thouworm
Obama isn’t leaving for Hawaii vacation until the 17th.

Ah...you're right. I plead synaptic overload ;-)

Expect him to find any excuse to skip town this weekend, and maybe most of next week. Holder needs to stay away from moving buses for a while.

48 posted on 12/02/2011 7:03:29 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: opentalk; MestaMachine

“Holder is suppose to testify before the House Judiciary Committee on Dec. 8, probably why this letter was dumped today.”

I think so. He was already nailed on the false statements in that letter, so he formerly withdrew his “misleading” letter and sent over the doc dump today to weasel out of the false statements and explain how that letter got full of misleading statements (LOL)...

thus changing the subject, and giving the committee 5 whole days (lot of people will be burning the weekend oil) to prepare for the hearing.


49 posted on 12/02/2011 7:05:32 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: Windflier

However, you were close on an Obama motive...:-)

President Barack Obama suggested Friday that Congress may not enjoy a long holiday break if the House and Senate have not passed an extension of the payroll-tax cut. “We need to get this done. And I expect that it’s going to get done before Congress leaves. Otherwise, Congress may not be leaving and we can all spend Christmas here together,” Obama said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2815337/posts


50 posted on 12/02/2011 7:11:11 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: DaveTesla
The Whouse document dump last Friday, revealed Obama met with Gary Grindler, the then-Deputy Attorney General and currently Holder's Chief of Staff, 4 times in 2010

-In early 2010, Gary Grindler was intimately involved in all aspects of Operation Fast and Furious. During the height of the operation, Grindler visited the President on four separate occasions in only two weeks link

51 posted on 12/02/2011 8:05:42 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Jonty30

Yes. Not folding. Playing the game with great care.

Issa gets ONE chance to win this. The stakes are VERY high. If Issa makes a single mistake he’s toast. When he makes the move to take down whoever he’s after, he must make sure there is no room for error, no room for escape, and that the takedown is instant and decisive.

Better still if he can persuade his targets to take each other down, rather than involving him. Saying it’s up to the Obama means the Obama must take a stand on this - and if the situation is as Travis’ favorite doctored cartoon indicates, taking a stand - any stand - will be the Obama’s demise. And when the Obama falls, he’s taking a lot of people with him.

“Feed ‘em enough rope and they’ll hang themselves” is an old wise principle. The way Issa is playing this, the bad guys will take each other out.


52 posted on 12/02/2011 8:11:01 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jonty30
Would I be too forward in guessing that Obama is distancing himself, while Holder is getting ready to resign?

I think you'd be hearing Obama's bus warming up.

53 posted on 12/02/2011 8:23:13 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DaveTesla

Issa is a coward,

Issa is a coward,

Issa is a coward,

Nanny, Nanny, Boo-Boo.


54 posted on 12/02/2011 8:36:11 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: Ben Barrack

Yes, Issa wants Holder in front of that committee so they can put him on the grill and turn up the heat.


55 posted on 12/02/2011 8:38:10 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Graewoulf
Issa is a coward,

And what, pray tell, is the basis of your assertion?

56 posted on 12/02/2011 8:39:51 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Ben Barrack

Good points, but Issa is going to have to come out, at the end of all the investigations, and lay the blame (i.e. Obama’s the buck stops here statement) at Holder’s feet and then hold them and his balls to the fire until he does resign, whether asked to or not.

Holder is an enemy of the Constitution, the country and to white people and some other minorities. His departure would be a tremendous victory for an Obama-Free America.


57 posted on 12/02/2011 9:01:28 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: muawiyah

“we win - we can prosecute and hang later.”

I like the way you think.

Judge Roy Bean


58 posted on 12/02/2011 9:03:38 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Fantasywriter

“in the end”? Who said this was over?


59 posted on 12/02/2011 9:18:03 PM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: okie01

Uh, maybe a wild guess?


60 posted on 12/02/2011 11:09:19 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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