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Tennessee family home burns while firefighters watch
Yahoo! News ^ | Dec. 6, 2011

Posted on 12/06/2011 4:33:24 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

A Tennessee couple helplessly watched their home burn to the ground, along with all of their possessions, because they did not pay a $75 annual fee to the local fire department.

Vicky Bell told the NBC affiliate WPSD-TV that she called 911 when her mobile home in Obion County caught fire. Firefighters arrived on the scene but as the fire raged, they simply stood by and did nothing. "In an emergency, the first thing you think of, 'Call 9-1-1," homeowner Bell said.

However, Bell and her husband were forced to walk into the burning home in an attempt to retrieve their own belongings. "You could look out my mom's trailer and see the trucks sitting at a distance," Bell said. "We just wished we could've gotten more out."

South Fulton Mayor David Crocker defended the fire department, saying that if firefighters responded to non-subscribers, no one would have an incentive to pay the fee.

Residents in the city of South Fulton receive the service automatically, but it is not extended to those living in the greater county-wide area.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: fire; seiu; tennessee; unions
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This is sad to me as I have always considered firefighters and paramedics the real hersos in our society. They train to enter burning buildings, handle hazardous materials, and perform all kinds of dangerous duties to save our lives and properties.

When I see this type of story I can only wonder just how screwed up our govenrments are to allow this to happen.

If this is about a fee then, frankly, this is about the government acting as a for-profit corporation and is unconstitutional.


61 posted on 12/06/2011 4:58:16 PM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Sounds like a rerun of a story from last summer.

Ridiculous story, as it was then.

62 posted on 12/06/2011 4:58:55 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: freedumb2003
...think of this more on the order of flood insurance.

You can't stop a flood, and you can't contain the flood to just your house.

They should have gotten ObamaFire. Force everyone to buy fire insurance, because people are irresponsible and can't be trusted to do the right thing, so the lazy force everyone else to pay more. < /sarc>

-PJ

63 posted on 12/06/2011 4:59:47 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you can vote for President, then your children can run for President.)
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To: cripplecreek
Thus further wasting funds.

Fires have a tendency to spread if not tended to. Their presence was necessary.

64 posted on 12/06/2011 5:00:15 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: cripplecreek

Do you pay taxes for that?


65 posted on 12/06/2011 5:00:44 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

No tickee . . . no washee


66 posted on 12/06/2011 5:01:13 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: traditional1

Way it ought to be... Big cities like mine (*) can afford to include it in with the taxes. Those small towns most likely do not get enough revenue.

So, you no pay ‘da fee, you no get service. Way it works. This is not the same story; this is a new one.

(*) = FWIW I don’t live in Detroit proper, I live in the Southern Suburbs. So, we’re not as big as the big D. But we’re big in our own right. So, it’s tossed in with the taxes; which is like $800 in the summer and about $1300.00 in the winter. For that we get trash collection, fire and police and SUPPOSEDLY road maintenance! Although, you couldn’t tell it by our street here... 8-/


67 posted on 12/06/2011 5:01:29 PM PST by DetroitRight
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So when did this city get involved in the insurance business? Was this even legal for a municipality to leverage insurance fees on the public? What are the real estate taxes for, to send the mayor and his cronies on vacation?


68 posted on 12/06/2011 5:01:29 PM PST by HighWheeler
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To: Free ThinkerNY
none of the volunteer forces here charge you anything, not a penny...
69 posted on 12/06/2011 5:02:00 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“”I suppose they expect to be able to buy car insurance after they wreck their car, too?””

obozo says - “What’s wrong with that? Makes sense to me. That’s at the top of my priority list.” (As soon as I can find that list)


70 posted on 12/06/2011 5:02:05 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Free ThinkerNY

So, what if one of these peoples children were trapped in the buring trailor?


71 posted on 12/06/2011 5:03:16 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Political Junkie Too

>>Force everyone to buy fire insurance, because people are irresponsible and can’t be trusted to do the right thing, so the lazy force everyone else to pay more<<

That is what they do. It is called taxation (frequently municipal).


72 posted on 12/06/2011 5:03:35 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Spoiler Alert! The secret to Terra Nova: THEY ARE ALL DEAD!!!)
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To: Bryanw92
If you’re going to let the place burn because a fee wasn’t paid, then don’t taunt the victims by showing up at their home’s destruction and watching.

They showd up to protect the property of the people that were smart enough to pay BEFORE they had a fire, if the fire spread.

73 posted on 12/06/2011 5:04:08 PM PST by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on television.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Would have been smarter to put out the fire and bill them $5,000 for the service. Somebody isn’t thinking.

I agree with you on that (maybe fiddle with the amount a bit) but I'm sure you'll get arguments on this thread.

Last time this story came up, I had someone who insisted that the chance of a fire is so low that a bill of $10,000 in the off-chance of a fire would be the chosen option over the $75 fee so no one would pay.

I wanted to insist that the dude was loopy and smoking something more than the house, but I didn't want to get flagged by the moderator.

74 posted on 12/06/2011 5:04:28 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: MeganC

“Nope. In a lot of rural areas fire protection comes from either purely volunteer fire departments”
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Yes and no....Someone has to pay for the fire truck/trucks and other equipment.
As a volunteer, I paid nothing towards the trucks.
They were obviously paid for by tax money from county and town.

I understand the point that if one person gets by without paying, no one would pay.
As for service not paid for, I think it would be easy for the fire department to file a lien on property that they save.

Watching a house burn, however, would be unconscionable for me.


75 posted on 12/06/2011 5:04:45 PM PST by AlexW
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To: CodeToad

Its a moral issue to me but I grew up in a small town where our local fire chief was an ass but he wouldn’t let your house burn down even if he had to put the fire out with a bucket brigade.


76 posted on 12/06/2011 5:04:54 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: AndrewB
They should have paid if they wanted the service.

Maybe, but on the other hand we used to have this thing called ethics...doing the right thing, even when no one is looking, much less when everyone is looking.

A neighbor in need is exactly where we should focus our attention, and if its your profession, I think its callous to stand by and watch suffering when you have the capacity, much less the duty by profession, to help.

There is a lot wrong with this story. Bad acting all around.

77 posted on 12/06/2011 5:06:06 PM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: NoGrayZone
Do you pay taxes for that?

Oh yeah but its not a whole lot. We had a local police department till a couple years ago when we just contracted with the county. I've got mixed feelings about the police thing because we're already paying as much as when we had our own cops. Plus we're in a virtually zero crime area.
78 posted on 12/06/2011 5:08:59 PM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I have heard of this before. They should have paid the 475 dollars. Was it an all volunteer fire dept? There has to be some way to support it.


79 posted on 12/06/2011 5:10:29 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: AlexW

Agree...see post 77


80 posted on 12/06/2011 5:10:37 PM PST by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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