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The Real Newt Gingrich (For all you Romney haters, Gingrich is big government too)
You Tube Video ^ | John F. McManus

Posted on 12/07/2011 2:50:42 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

John F. McManus anaylzes the voting record and actions of former Congressman Newt Gingrich, revealing that Gingrich is not the conservative he portrays himself to be.


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KEYWORDS: biggovernmentnewt; fraud; gingrich; jbs; johnbirchsociety; liberalnewt; newtnotconservative; progressive; rinonewt
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To: Rudder

If there are no pure candidates, then there are no purists.

-—————That’s my point: Who will fill the bill after Newt is discarded?-——————

I’m not so much trying to join one person’s camp as much as I am trying to avoid a big government republican.

I’d gladly vote for Santorum or Bachmann. I’d even take Perry. I have a lot of reservations about Paul, but I don’t think he would grow government and that is by far the number one issue.

Gingrich, Romney, and Huntsman are big government republicans.

I don’t expect anybody can explain to me why I should reject big government to accept big government. Can you?


41 posted on 12/07/2011 3:35:50 PM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing ( Media doesn't report, It advertises. So that last advertisement you just read, what was it worth?)
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To: pallis

When was the last time the congress actually cut the deficit and balanced the budget?


42 posted on 12/07/2011 3:36:05 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Thorliveshere
Perry is really starting to look good again.

Yes, he is. I think he may get a second look from a lot of people.

43 posted on 12/07/2011 3:36:18 PM PST by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Bygones! Go Gingrich, because if we divide the conservative vote, then Willard Mitt Romney can low crawl his way to the GOP nomination with 17% pluralities.
44 posted on 12/07/2011 3:48:13 PM PST by Timaeus
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Gingrich will work tirelessly to solve the singularly most important issue of our time. We just don’t know what he thinks it will be.


45 posted on 12/07/2011 3:52:56 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I don't think anyone is under the illusion is a small gov't conservative, so you aren't telling us anything we don't already know.

But Romney is even to the Left of Newt, which is saying something!

46 posted on 12/07/2011 3:59:19 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. Burke)
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To: Jim Robinson

When was the last time the congress actually cut the deficit and balanced the budget?

When the 94 Congress took over to clean up Clinton’s mess using the Contract With America. Newt has been on a long, crooked road since then. That doesn’t mean I won’t support him should he pull this off. He is better than Romney. How much better is the question.


47 posted on 12/07/2011 4:02:55 PM PST by pallis
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

HANG IN THERE, RICK!


48 posted on 12/07/2011 4:21:28 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Well, that’s a nice positive attitude./s

With people like you - 2012 will be ushering in an Obama second term.


49 posted on 12/07/2011 4:29:11 PM PST by khnyny (Our government has become Hal in "2001 A Space Odyssey")
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And how exactly does Gingrich deserve my confidence, my vote?

Romney and Gingrich are career politicians who needed Big Government to be elected.

The Tea Party conservatism is about Limited Government.

Gingrich is politicking as a Limited ‘BIG’ Government politician.

That is a big difference between Limited Government and Big Government.

Gingrich wants conservative voters to COMPROMISE. That is what RINOS do. AND WE ALL DO NOT LIKE RINOS.

Are you still willing to compromise on a Limited Big Government politician?

If you do, then you aren’t Tea Party.


50 posted on 12/07/2011 4:33:36 PM PST by JohnBrownUSA (Don't Tread On America!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; faucetman; 2ndDivisionVet; OUTKAST; MinuteGal; seekthetruth; Bushbacker1; ...

I keep hearing people say...anyone but Obama...

How about vote for anyone but a PROGRESSIVE????

It is the Progressives that are destroying our country. Remember the progressives were started by the GOP (Teddy Roosevelt) - they believe the government is the answer.

The Progressives in the right and the left believe in varying forms of nationalism leading all the way up to the New World Order...

Every president since Carter (except Reagan) was and is a progressive.

It is no wonder why we are in the state we are in. This is all part of their plan.

There is a good chance that everything will collapse during the next term.

So who do you want to be responsible for rebuilding America and our economy?

A Progressive or a true small government founderesque person?

Let’s tell the GOP we will NOT support progressive candidates anymore. Because that is our ONLY choice a progressive from the right or a progressive from the left.

The progressives from the right always lead to more and more radical progressives from the left.

This may be our last chance. I hear from a lot of people that our system is designed to force long periods of massive change and for the most part I agree except Obama in 3 years has done more damage to our free country than all the progressives have done in 100 years.

This is it, the end game. We have to make our stand and make our choice.

We need people like Bachmann or Santorum on the ticket against Obama - not right-winged progressives like Romney or Gingrich!!!

BTW where is the tea party on all this? They are massively supporting Gingrich...is the tea party really about smaller government, less spending, etc...I am beginning to wonder.


51 posted on 12/07/2011 4:36:18 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Name one candidate a paranoid kook like McManus would support. He and JBS even thought Ronald Reagan had sold out to the NWO and was a globalist puppet.


52 posted on 12/07/2011 4:43:15 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z0PLxGbSPvU


53 posted on 12/07/2011 4:45:20 PM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: Huck
I won't vote for Newt.

If you wouldn't vote for him over Obama, you're the enemy.

The second amendment won't exist as we know it if Obama gets to pick a couple more Supreme Court justices. Gay marriage will be forced on the nation. Religious freedom will be severely curtailed. And, Obamacare will be permanent entrenched as part of the healthcare system.

But, you took the principled stand and helped Obama win. What a guy!

54 posted on 12/07/2011 4:47:08 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Gingrich did an interview and re-affirmed his big government beliefs.

He is a socialist that balanced the budget and pushed through welfare reform as speaker!

55 posted on 12/07/2011 4:50:36 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Jim Robinson
At least Newt did support Ronald Reagan and the Reagan Revolution. He did build a successful Republican majority. He did cut taxes, did reduce the deficit, did balance the budget, did block HillaryCare, did reform welfare, did allow us to reap the whirlwind of the Reagan economy.

Newt's record in congress is actually quite conservative. We can use his deficit reducing, tax cutting, budget balancing talents right now. And he's an aggressive fighter. We're going to need that.

Romney saddled Massachusetts with budget busting RomneyCare, taxpayer funded "safe and legal" abortion, gay marriage, leftist judges and a completely destroyed Republican label. And RomneyCare did become the model and impetus for ObamaCare.

Not to mention the fact that Newt has the support of the Republican conservative base and the grassroots tea party supporters:

READ, Wake UP and Repeat.

Realize that we are going to be under attack from the Establishment republicans just a voracious and nasty as from the left. And we are seeing it here in FB.

Newt's election and his appointments will the death knell for the Ivy League Establishment Elitist Republican Club that has been deciding, for decades, who our nominees will be. The last time they lost on that was Ronald Reagan...with whom Newt worked closely.

Newt has a REAL record when he was in office, when House Speaker. a solidly CONSERVATIVE one. WE don't have to just take his word for what he'd do.

Romney also has a record in office. Emphatically not a Conservative one.

"By their fruits shall ye know them."

Newt has an ACU rating of 90%.

Newt has experience in Washington but is not the 'insider' - not the anointed one of the Establishment Cabal - Romney is. Romney is one of their Ivy League Club members - from the Harvard/Yale trained golden boys.

Newt went to a college in - gasp - Georgia. Who was the last president that wasn't from the Ivy League Establishment Club? Ronald Reagan.

Why do you think the hate (fear) and attack Palin? She's not from The Club either.

By these Argumentum ad Hominem attacks on Newt, the attackers expose themselves. Expect more. They're fighting for their empire of control.

56 posted on 12/07/2011 4:59:13 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: Kazan
Relax. One vote is totally worthless. It makes no difference at all--especially here in NJ. A scumbag like Newt doesn't deserve a resounding mandate, and I will not help give him one. That's one small, inconsequential thing I can do.

As for SCOTUS picks, in the long run, our liberty will depend on ourselves. As long as we're dependent on the SCOTUS, we're screwed.

57 posted on 12/07/2011 5:00:08 PM PST by Huck (LIBERTY is the object.)
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To: Kazan

All that video does is expose the limited Big Government that Gingrich is for. McManus didn’t make up Gingrich’s own words or actions. Gingrich should be held responsible for his political ideology.

Like ‘Surfer’ stated above your comment, the conservatives still have Bachmann and Santorum to choose.

CHOOSE ONE OF THEM!

Heck, 99% of all the comments here on Free Republic are about advocating Tea Party principles for about 3 years before a general election, but then that conservative passion disappears down the home stretch. And in it’s place are EXCUSES as to why these Tea Party principles need to be abandoned, typically for electability concerns.

If you are going to fight for conservatism, then you will have to vote for conservatism.

All I know is that if you give up on the Tea Party, then it will fade away... And right now, Obama’s Occupy movement is raging strong against conservatism. By being a Tea Party Patriot, there will be strengths in numbers, to help defend America against this Big Government evil. We had Obama on the ropes in November of 2010, but now he’s fighting back. ONLY THE TEA PARTY HAS THE MEANS TO STOP IT!

Why give up the fight now when we are unified as a Tea Party force?

It’s now or never.

Your choice.


58 posted on 12/07/2011 5:03:39 PM PST by JohnBrownUSA (Don't Tread On America!)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Obama won when Herman Cain received that death threat on his family member (s) on his way to the announcement last Saturday!! How base! How evil! I don’t think Ronney is above doing such a horrible thing anymmore than this administration is. Whoever did it deserves the ultimate punishment!


59 posted on 12/07/2011 5:04:33 PM PST by Paperdoll (on the cutting edge)
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To: Kazan
I won't vote for Newt.

If you wouldn't vote for him over Obama, you're the enemy.

The second amendment won't exist as we know it if Obama gets to pick a couple more Supreme Court justices. Gay marriage will be forced on the nation. Religious freedom will be severely curtailed. And, Obamacare will be permanent entrenched as part of the healthcare system.

But, you took the principled stand and helped Obama win. What a guy!


2nd Amendment, sodomite agenda, religious freedom.

You hit the nail on the head.

That is exactly what gives me pause about Newt.

Every American who sees the correct side of those issues is very much watching the Federal government now and very much outraged. Because Obama is in office.

If a Republican(tm) is elected, my concern is that Congress and our illustrious new (R) President compromise here and there in the interest of advancing this or that initiative they have. That's how things get done in DC, we all know.

And then, while we "slumber" since "our guy" is President, perhaps not being so "outraged" and taking so much notice of everything that goes on... we find those issues named above - which are principle-type issues - not the immediate financial and budgetary issues - get horse-traded away to say... stop the debt ceiling from rising, or get some strong foreign policy stance support in Congress, or get the Congress to go along with some new education or healthcare initiative that Republican brainiacs think will be a real winner. Something like no child left behind. Even I (Mr. nutty conservative) was very much taken with that when it was first mentioned. It sounded so cool - "make the teachers accountable to a real standard !". Completely misguided. And a waste of political capital getting it passed. And now the Federal and most State and local governments are outright hostile to Christianity, paralyzed in fear of sodomites and are more gun-grabbing than ever. I've done a lot of waking up in the last 10 years. All this "progress" after a century and a half of Republicanism.

I have little doubt that Newt is saying what I want to hear now, and also that he could win the general election. He certainly would get the economy going at least a little by signing legislation that favored business. I heard him speak to the Republican Jewish Coalition today and everything he said was very good other than the "depose Assad" thing, which I simply don't have enough info on to know, but, in general, IMHO, it's best to not publicly advocate for deposing a leader unless we're already at war with them.

But IMHO, the real problem is a moral one in America; and I don't know that Newt would use political capital to advance the cause of Christian principles. I really don't know what he would do with the 2nd Amendment, since it's not very immediately economically-related, perhaps that would be a bargaining chip. And will he then move on to the underlying problem of too big of a government - and actually shut down whole departments ? He's said he wants to replace and / or major reform of some deparments.

I just don't want the victory to be worse than the defeat.

At the end of the day - I have to trust in the Lord, not in men. I wish the best for America whoever is elected. Certainly, if America turns back to God, we will be blessed.

A word to the wise is sufficient.

IMHO.
60 posted on 12/07/2011 5:55:41 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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