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Mother Loses Support, Custody for Interfering With Father's Rights
NY Law Journal ^ | 12/09/11 | John Caher

Posted on 12/08/2011 7:59:52 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: cloudmountain

Wrong. When the kid is grown, she will figure out what was what.

Generally a party who worked to keep the kid disconnected from the other parent tends to get left alone in a nursing home as retaliation.
Law of unintended consequences that bitter parents refuse to see until they find themselves alone and still bitter.


21 posted on 12/08/2011 9:13:33 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Cincinnatus

I’ve gotten primary or sole custody for plenty of men... Same rules apply as for women.


22 posted on 12/08/2011 9:52:18 PM PST by jackal7163 (If you are not willing to achieve victory at any cost, you are doomed to defeat!)
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To: Lurker
Good. My ex wife put me through Visitation Hell almost until the day she died. It got so bad I called the cops before I even went to her house to pick him up.

If I showed up without them she would simply refuse to let me see him and dare me to do anything about it, all in front of a 5 year old child. It's been over a decade and he still hasn't recovered from the damage that evil bitch did.

Good for you. I mean it. I know on a personal level of which you speak. I too agree with the end results in the case as highlighted in this news article. Difficult choices but still the correct decision. Perhaps and hoping the minor child will finally receive some love and have a stable environment at last.

23 posted on 12/09/2011 2:31:27 AM PST by Ron H. (Be ready and look to the heavens for He is surely coming back, soon!)
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To: Lurker

Well I’m really sorry that happened to you. That’s awful. Some of these women give us others a bad name. ack!


24 posted on 12/09/2011 4:51:28 AM PST by Shimmer1 (National Procrastination Day has been postponed until tomorrow.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I am seeing a lot of people here bashing mom, but are missing the fact that DAD moved away, to another state, and lost custody of his child.

At that point, support should have been dropped, and dad should have had no further rights. Once mom obtained sole custody, she had no further obligation to dad, and no further expectation to support either.


25 posted on 12/09/2011 5:00:58 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: Lurker

This reminds of that old joke about Bill Gates going to Hell.


26 posted on 12/09/2011 5:11:05 AM PST by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: MrEdd

>>Generally a party who worked to keep the kid disconnected from the other parent tends to get left alone in a nursing home as retaliation.<<

Unless said other parent is a lying, dangerous, manipulative, murderous sociopath.

In which case, the children are protected until they’re old enough to make that visitation decision on their own.


27 posted on 12/09/2011 5:21:22 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Go now. Run along and tell your Xerxes that he faces Free Men here...not slaves.")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow

True.

As I said, the kid will figure out what was what.


28 posted on 12/09/2011 6:04:11 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Lurker
She wasn’t that way when I married her.

Yup. Some of the psychotic ones are good at hiding it. For a while. 

Been there.

29 posted on 12/09/2011 7:17:13 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit
At that point, support should have been dropped, and dad should have had no further rights.

I find this statement a little naive.
Why do you and the courts feel that just because a man doesn't pay child support he should lose custody of his child?
First of all, maybe the father doesn't have a job, maybe the father moved to another state to get a job? Or to get away from his crazy wife? Or maybe he can't afford to pay the crazy amount the court has set?
I have two sons who've gone through this hell. They tried to do the right thing, but the girls and the courts couldn't punish them enough.
The courts don't care if the man lives on the street because the only thing he can afford to pay is child support. Maybe, just maybe, this is one reason so many men run.

30 posted on 12/09/2011 8:58:17 AM PST by beachn4fun (Remember the troops during the Holidays.)
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To: zeugma
Been there.

Exactly.

31 posted on 12/09/2011 10:12:08 AM PST by Ron H. (Be ready and look to the heavens for He is surely coming back, soon!)
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To: beachn4fun

Men in a family district court all too often are seen as just a wallet and a ongoing source for $$$ for the attornies involved.


32 posted on 12/09/2011 10:15:44 AM PST by Ron H. (Be ready and look to the heavens for He is surely coming back, soon!)
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To: beachn4fun
That is not what I am saying. In the article, it states that Dad left the state, and lost custody

After the father moved to New Jersey, the Family Court issued a default order awarding Ms. Luke sole custody

It doesn't state this is due to non-payment of child support. What I am saying is that he chose to leave the child's life, and at that point, the court chose to give sole custody to the mom. I feel if sole custody is awarded to any parent, I do not feel the other parent should be required to pay child support.

And if you are going to walk away, there should be final consequences to that. You can't walk out during the hardest years in child rearing, and hope to come back when it is all fun and games. What right does he have to do that?

33 posted on 12/09/2011 10:22:19 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; RogerFGay

thanks for posting this.


34 posted on 12/09/2011 10:24:48 AM PST by sauropod (Ann Coulter does NOT choose my presidential candidate!)
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To: Drumbo; Behind Liberal Lines
No mention of false abuse allegations, but wait until he's actually had a chance to see his kid outside of court. *sigh* He'd best keep a detailed journal of every moment of every day with his daughter because this beotch is just getting started.

Heck, he might as well hire a string of off-duty cops to accompany him & the child everywhere, including bed and bath. They need wirnesses to nothing happening.

Marking for later reference, whatever purpose that may serve.

35 posted on 12/09/2011 10:24:48 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Titan Magroyne
Oops.

"witnesses"

36 posted on 12/09/2011 10:27:34 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: Lurker

My brother’s ex tried to do the same. Fortunately, the court called her on it, and awarded my brother primary custody by the time the divorce was final. We owe that judge a huge debt of gratitude for refusing to fall for her shananigans.


37 posted on 12/09/2011 11:06:24 AM PST by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: ican'tbelieveit

I think the point was that the father moved but so did the mom and, in the moms case, never told the dad where to.


38 posted on 12/09/2011 12:57:08 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Dad already lost custody. Why should mom be required to keep up with him? He moved and lost custody, too bad, so sad. Move on.


39 posted on 12/09/2011 1:08:27 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit (Washington,DC is FULL of people with Political Experience... How's that Working out for you??)
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To: Lurker

I’m with you, brother. Some women can be extremely abusive, and it doesn’t show up for a long while.

However, just to give you a smile on a grim subject:

Q: Did you marry your wife for her looks?
A: Yeah, but not for the looks she’s been giving me lately.


40 posted on 12/09/2011 1:40:29 PM PST by redpoll
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