Gingrich Is Inspiring—and Disturbing ( A Noonan Kerfuffle)

Ms. Noonan overlooks that we have been walking on the 'wild side' ever since the Marxist Obama took office...and we are Trillions of Dollars more in debt.

Newt offers the corrections needed to restore America - I'll take the wild side with Newt any day as to the continued construction of America under Obama.

....continued destruction....

You didn’t see the huge thread yesterday?

I’ll take him, warts and all!

Newt Gingrich Backs Funds For Abortion - http://articles.sfgate.com/1995-04-10/news/17801484_1_poor-w...

02/15/2007 - Newt Gingrich supported a proposal for mandatory carbon cap and trade - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/intervie...

02/10/2011 - Newt Gingrich wants to replace the EPA instead of abolishing it - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20031365-503544.html

01/30/2011 - Newt Gingrich lobbied for ethanol subsidies -http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870469800457610...

Newt Gingrich's Environmental Problem -http://www.salon.com/2011/05/11/gingrich_environment_america...

Newt Gingrich co-sponsored the Global Warming Prevention Act which says that “the Earth’s atmosphere is being changed at an unprecedented rate by pollutants resulting from human activities, inefficient and wasteful fossil fuel use, and the effects of rapid population growth in many regions...global warming imperils human health and well-being...and [demands] to reduce world emissions of carbon dioxide by at least 20% from 1988 levels by 2000... major threat to political stability, international security, and economic prosperity.” - 1998 - http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:H.R.1078:

Newt Gingrich Supported the Bailouts/TARP

Newt Gingrich says he would've voted for TARP -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJb2NfqwghY

Newt Gingrich gets back on the couch with Pelosi-http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/28/gingrich-gets-back-on-t...

Newt Gingrich Supported Federal Health Insurance

Newt Gingrich supports Obama and Mitt Romney's healthcare plan-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYHSdRRLb7U

Newt Gingrich says the government must force people to buy health insurance- http://www.healthtransformation.net/cs/opeds_news?pressrelea...

11/15/2010 - Newt Gingrich defended Romneycare -http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1110/Gingrich_defends...

03/19/2011 - Newt Gingrich has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability) -http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/6...

Newt Gingrich said: “All of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care.” - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870350910457632...

Newt Gingrich said: “I agree that all of us have a responsibility to pay — help pay for health care.” MSNBC’s David Gregory: But that is the individual mandate, is it not? “It’s a variation on it.” -http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/267330/gingrich-i-oppos...

In 2008 Newt Gingrich suggested ‘insurance mandates for people who earn more than $75,000 a year.’ Two years later, he was telling Sean Hannity at Fox News that health insurance mandates were unconstitutional.” -http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0327/New...

Newt Gingrich Supports Amnesty for Illegals Aliens

Watch the video of Newt Gingrich proposing amnesty in his own voice -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-OKFOhCaDY

Conservatives are critical of Newt's amnesty stance -http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/283932/gingrich-amnesty...

More criticisms about Newt's desire for illegals to receive amnesty -http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/45873.html

Newt Gingrich voted to raise the debt ceiling 4 times:
1 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-449
2 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1980-936
3 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1981-7
4 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1984-754

Newt Gingrich voted for a $50 billion tax increase - (House Roll Call Vote 569 - 1984)

Newt Gingrich was paid by Freddie Mac to lobby Republicans for support -http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-16/gingrich-said-to-be...

More on the Newt Gingrich Freddie Mac lobbyist scandal -http://www.cnbc.com/id/28108013/How_Freddie_Mac_Splashed_Cas...

Newt Gingrich's Charity Paid Money to Gingrich's Business -http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/06/gingrich-cha...

Newt Gingrich voted to create the Department of Education -http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-468

Newt Gingrich voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion) - http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll135.xml

Newt Gingrich flip-flops on Libya in less than 16 days-http://www.slate.com/content/slate/blogs/weigel/2011/03/23/n...

Newt Gingrich supported the World Trade Organization, voted for GATT/WTO - http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1994/roll507.xml

Newt Gingrich supported GATT - http://www.cfaba.org/cf05006.htm

Newt Gingrich supported WTO - http://www.nolanchart.com/article368-bill-clinton-and-his-na...

03/15/2011 - Newt Gingrich says that NAFTA worked 'because it created jobs in Mexico' - http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/15/150658/gingrich...

Newt Gingrich helped push through federally-funded loan guarantees to communist China - http://www.lessgovisthebestgov.com/Newt-Gingrich-Candidate-P....

"Newt Gingrich was passionately in favor of helping Russia (with US foreign aid), saying it was a "great defining moment" for America and we had to do the right thing. Newt was trying to "out-Russia" me, which I was only too happy to have him do." - Bill Clinton -http://www.issues2000.org/My_Life.htm

In one year (1994-1995) Newt Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign aid - http://www.unelected.org/socialist-of-the-week-newt-gingrich.

Newt Gingrich was for the United Nations before he was against it -http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/08/11/gingrich_...

09/16/1996 - Newt Gingrich voted for the anti-gun Brady Campaign’s Lautenberg Gun Ban, which took away gun rights-http://www.nationalgunrights.org/the-inconvenient-truth-abou...

Newt Gingrich has a bad firearms record - http://gunowners.org/gingrich-mixed-record.htm

Newt Gingrich worked for the Rockefeller campaign -http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/interviews.html

10/16/2009 - Newt Gingrich endorsed super liberal Dede Scozzafava -http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/16/an-acorn-friendly-big-l...

05/04/1979 - Newt Gingrich voted for a federal land grab that put tens of millions of acres of land in the hands of Washington bureaucrats. -http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-107

04/02/1987 - Newt Gingrich cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine (anti 1st Amendment legislation) - http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/29/newt-gingrich-co-sponso...

Newt Gingrich voted to take land away from states and individuals. The “Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act,” which Newt Gingrich voted for in support of President Jimmy Carter, was a federal government power grab that put tens of millions of acres of land in the hands of the corrupt cronyism and bureaucracy in Washington. -http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-107

Fiscal conservative Steve Forbes' magazine says that "Newt Gingrich Represents The Worst Qualities Of The GOP Primary Field" -http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/11/16/newt-gingric...

The Many Flip-Flops of Newt Gingrich -http://www.tnr.com/slideshow/politics/85743/newt-gingrich-li...

World Net Daily (WND) - Joe Farah says that "Gingrich is a Liberal" -http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=299873

Democrats Think Newt Gingrich Will Be Easy To Beat -http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68414.html

Jack Abramoff says 'Newt Gingrich is corrupt' -http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/jack-abramoff-n...

Two theories for y’all:

1. As you grow older, you become mature and more stable.

2. As you grow older, your character flaws become exaggerated and you become a caricature of your younger self.

Great, a choice between a Marxist-Leninist and a Teddy Roosevelt Progressive with ethical baggage.

Once again, Conservatism is kicked to the curb.

Isn’t this the second time the WSJ has published this?

I know they came out backing Romney on a couple of things the other day, so maybe the Journal’s preferred candidate is Romney. I’m pretty sure he’s Noonan’s fave.

Peggy Noonan. Yawn.

“Great, a choice between a Marxist-Leninist and a Teddy Roosevelt Progressive with ethical baggage.

Once again, Conservatism is kicked to the curb.”

You couldn't be more correct. There are those who are deluding themselves that Gingrich is a conservative. While a Gingrich presidency wouldn't move toward socialism as fast as Obama’s, it would do nothing to reverse course.

OK, Swell. Another laundry list of supposed Gingrich sins.

So, what's your solution? Palin's out. Cain's out. Romney/Huntsman unsuitable. Paul's an idiot, Nixon's dead, Reagan's dead and we have a disease in the White House.

Either support Gingrich and get Obama out of the presidency or just go ahead and vote for Obama. Those are the choices, nicht war?

Hey Pegs....

If you want to see something “disturbing”, take a look at your idiotic blatherings about the skid mark during the 2008 presidential campaign. Nitwit.

Barnacle Centurian = Pissant.

I’m for Newt. He’s the only choice that we have. Obama or Gingrich. Pick one.

Gingrich is dangerous. He offers only that which is good for Newt.

No RINO Newt, no RINO Romney.

SO WHAT? I am not wasting one second of time looking at your links. I already know they are just lies, distortions, & half truths. All criticisms of Newt are like them. Out of context statements meant to trash Newt.

Forget the soundbites, listen to what Newt actually says. ALL of what he says on any topic.

The GOP insiders want to gather all our tax money and put it in their bank accounts.

Spend, Spend, Spend.

Anybody who wants to balance the budget is enemy number one.

I know they came out backing Romney on a couple of things the other day, so maybe the Journal’s preferred candidate is Romney.

Pet peeve of mine, sorry. I read the WSJ every day, and haven't seen "them" endorse anyone. Just because it publishes an opinion that someone writes on its opinion pages (go figure) does not constitute as much.

Peggy who?

I’m alway amazed how some of our number don’t get it - the Gingrich haters need to sum up the lists of things that Obama and the Democrats have done to our country, or finances, and our freedoms these last four years - and maybe sum up all the damage that they would do with four more years... Then maybe the choices will be clearer to them.

>> Barnacle Centurian = Pissant.

...minus the charm and debating skills.

>> No RINO Newt, no RINO Romney.

Then who?

They didn’t “endorse” Romney. They have had a couple of editorials endorsing his positions on various things, although exactly how they have determined what his positions are, I can’t fathom.

I know on Saturday they often re-publish an opinion piece from the week. But they obviously have to determine which one it will be, so it’s not entirely casual.

Did they want to get this out there and get discussion going? Was it a quasi-editorial statement? I don’t know.

Aside from all that, though, Peggy Noonan is such a lightweight I don’t even know why the Journal publishes her musings. They’re always overly emotional, highly subjective, and really (in my opinion) not even very well-written.

"Either support Gingrich and get Obama out of the presidency or just go ahead and vote for Obama."

That argument would only make sense if Gingrich could actually beat Obama. But Rasmussen says he can't:

Rasmussen: Obama 45%, Gingrich 40%

Reagan's dead and we have a disease in the White House.

One of the best descriptions I have ever read of our current situation. Bravo!

The Newt haters are ridiculous in that they refuse to acknowledge what he has done good for conservatism. The Newt supporters, on the other hand, seem to have the intellectual honesty to admit he’s a flawed candidate.

So while the haters list a bunch of article or opinions of Newt’s let me present a laundry list of his conservative accomplishments - things that actually a happened and effected lives - not interviews or PSA’s.

Led first GOP victory in congress in 40 years
Authored conservative manifesto called Contract with America
Forced welfare reform on Bill Clinton.
Forced balanced budget on Bill Clinton

The pure Bachmann nor Santorum have ever shown even a whiff of that kind of ability. I like their opinions, but dammit, ability matters.

Actions speak very loud.

Coulls always vote Perry. He’s got the money and organization to run a national campaign, so just needs the votes to get the trifecta of *win*.

Though, he can’t debate well. But considering that his opposition would be the man who needs a teleprompter to speak with preschoolers... I’d call it a wash.

When Election season heats up, the WSJ will likely publish opinions by Obama supporters, including at least one written by his campaign manager. “Quasi-editorial,” also?

he may send a special SEAL team in at night to secretly dig Iran up, and fly it to Detroit, where we can keep it under guard, and Detroiters can all get jobs as guards,

Cool. In a generation or two, it could become a theme park. If we did the same thing with Mecca, we could have a billion people praying towards Detroit five times a day.

Exactly. Peggy Noonan: Someone desperately seeking relevance. Not going to happen in your lifetime, Peggy. Those days are gone forever.

“I’m for Newt. He’s the only choice that we have. Obama or Gingrich. Pick one.”

It’s about who we will pick. It is about who the dim bulb moderates will vote for. I’ll buy you a clue. They won’t be voting for Newt.

Those laundry lists are short on context. In the House the bills introduced are not ‘stand alone’ - they are loaded with amendments, earmarks and add-ons. Voting is a balancing act between the lesser of two evils. In Congress - no elected representative is an island. You vote yea or nay or block -depending if you have the numbers on your side.

It ain’t bean-bag - and Newt was successful when it mattered.

No Newt, No Romney so you are ok with Obozo?

Wow, because that is where this election is headed.

BTW wasn’t Noonan tooting Obama’s horn 4 years ago?

Well she got the hair-brained part correct.

I take it you’re not a Gingrich fan. Most of those articles are false, biased or complete nonsense. Sorry, just my opinion.

Depends on the poll....

http://nation.foxnews.com/newt-gingrich/2011/11/30/national-poll-gingrich-45-obama-43

BTW wasn’t Noonan tooting Obama’s horn 4 years ago?

Yes she was! She decided she wanted to be a “smart” elitist like her NY pals. Now that they have just about crashed the economy and spent us into hell, she’s still singing from the Rino “moderate” page.

Like most insider “conservative” pundits, Peggy has not had an independent conservative thought or idea of reform drift through her brain for years. Useless.

Las Vegas odds, obummer 200 to 1, newt 5000 to 1. You are the one that needs to look for a new person.

Mmmm, yes. Words speak louder than actions, and professional politicans NEVER lie.

Boy oh boy...

I would like to suggest a response to the rhetorical question in your excellent reply. I believe the Wall Street Journal publishes Peggy Noonan because she appeals to half the population which has been a severe challenge for conservatism for at least two generations: females.

You note, "overly emotional, highly subjective, and really (in my opinion) not even very well-written." I would agree and I would point out that men watch football games and women watch soap operas.

As a supporter of Newt Gingrich, I would like to see them address a very flagrant vulnerability which is the women's reaction to his marital history. If you read the posts by women on these threads in reaction to Gingrich you will find a disproportionate number oppose him. In any event, I have seen some polls which show he is not getting an equivalent share of that vote.

This is purely speculative on my part, but I suspect we will see some real cattiness concerning Mrs. Gingrich.

Be that as it may, Gingrich has a real problem with the women's vote and he's got to address it somehow.

The accepted wisdom (perhaps not in this august forum) is that Clinton balanced the budget. If you go to the budget proposed by Clinton in February, 1995, you’ll find that it runs $180 to $200+ billion projected annual deficits for the next ten years, yet within a few years the budget was running a surplus (yeah, I know it was a surplus based on the diversion of FICA monies, but that’s the common perception).

The key fact here is that the Gingrich Congress was elected a few months before this budget was submitted, so it seems to me to be more fair to credit Gingrich with the surplus.

The problem, though, with Gingrich is that he is erratic. The knock on his tenure as Speaker of the House is that he would have a Number 1 Great Idea, Super-Priority today which Absolutely Must Be Worked On and a different one tomorrow. A leader needs to be more focused. Gingrich would be an disaster as president.

I like Gingrich, but his strength is that of an insurgent.

If it’s a choice between Gingrich and the incumbent, sure, I’ll vote for Gingrich but without enthusiasm.

Gingrich is the 2012 version of Giuliani. Time for the 12 steps, conservatives have reached the bottom.

Peggy Noonan lost my respect a loooooong time ago.....

I would add “terminal” disease to that statement.

When does Peggy’s attachment to the Reagan administration no longer hold any cachet? For the life of me I cannot figure out why her articles are even read anymore.

After her gushing about Obama on election night, I gave up on her.

That argument would only make sense if Gingrich could actually beat Obama. But Rasmussen says he can't: Rasmussen: Obama 45%, Gingrich 40% Who in their right mind cites a poll almost A YEAR AWAY from the election? Absolutely worthless. ...and why do the networks even do polls like this so far out from the election? Two months ago Obama was crushing Newt, now Newt is within 5 points. Newt month Newt could be up by 10 points.... and it is equally meaningless. I would be ashamed to post that.

You don’t really know modern women that well.

In the seventies there were about twenty soap operas on television. I know, because I was raised in a household where the soaps were on, every day, like clock work.

There are only six left today. And they’re dying.

Univision is the only thriving soap opera market these days.

American women have evolved. They don’t have time for soap operas. They work outside the home. They have other outlets for entertainment. And most of them don’t have consecutive hours every week to devote to a serial story line that they must follow every day to keep up with the plot.

I don’t know any American woman that watches soap operas anymore. And I myself haven’t watched them in about twenty years.

But men will still watch football. That will never end.

When Gingrich was first elected, I was a liberal Democrat.

I voted for my last Democrat in 1988. (While Perry was aiding Al Gore in Texas)

Intelligent people gain wisdom as they age. I doubt Newt has stood still either and I give much more weight to his words of today than those of decades ago.

Ms. Noonan pirouettes between the beds of Obama and Romney.

She is a "conservative" like Obama who she supported.