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Gingrich Is Inspiring—and Disturbing ( A Noonan Kerfuffle)
WSJ ^ | December 10, 2011 | PEGGY NOONAN

Posted on 12/10/2011 7:44:58 AM PST by yoe

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To: livius
I would like to suggest a response to the rhetorical question in your excellent reply. I believe the Wall Street Journal publishes Peggy Noonan because she appeals to half the population which has been a severe challenge for conservatism for at least two generations: females.

You note, "overly emotional, highly subjective, and really (in my opinion) not even very well-written." I would agree and I would point out that men watch football games and women watch soap operas.

As a supporter of Newt Gingrich, I would like to see them address a very flagrant vulnerability which is the women's reaction to his marital history. If you read the posts by women on these threads in reaction to Gingrich you will find a disproportionate number oppose him. In any event, I have seen some polls which show he is not getting an equivalent share of that vote.

This is purely speculative on my part, but I suspect we will see some real cattiness concerning Mrs. Gingrich.

Be that as it may, Gingrich has a real problem with the women's vote and he's got to address it somehow.


41 posted on 12/10/2011 8:56:46 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Chainmail

The accepted wisdom (perhaps not in this august forum) is that Clinton balanced the budget. If you go to the budget proposed by Clinton in February, 1995, you’ll find that it runs $180 to $200+ billion projected annual deficits for the next ten years, yet within a few years the budget was running a surplus (yeah, I know it was a surplus based on the diversion of FICA monies, but that’s the common perception).

The key fact here is that the Gingrich Congress was elected a few months before this budget was submitted, so it seems to me to be more fair to credit Gingrich with the surplus.

The problem, though, with Gingrich is that he is erratic. The knock on his tenure as Speaker of the House is that he would have a Number 1 Great Idea, Super-Priority today which Absolutely Must Be Worked On and a different one tomorrow. A leader needs to be more focused. Gingrich would be an disaster as president.

I like Gingrich, but his strength is that of an insurgent.

If it’s a choice between Gingrich and the incumbent, sure, I’ll vote for Gingrich but without enthusiasm.


42 posted on 12/10/2011 8:57:05 AM PST by bagman
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To: yoe

Gingrich is the 2012 version of Giuliani. Time for the 12 steps, conservatives have reached the bottom.


43 posted on 12/10/2011 9:01:37 AM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: yoe

Peggy Noonan lost my respect a loooooong time ago.....


44 posted on 12/10/2011 9:01:45 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: livius

I would add “terminal” disease to that statement.


45 posted on 12/10/2011 9:06:34 AM PST by COUNTrecount (Barry...above his poi grade.)
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To: MasterGunner01

When does Peggy’s attachment to the Reagan administration no longer hold any cachet? For the life of me I cannot figure out why her articles are even read anymore.

After her gushing about Obama on election night, I gave up on her.


46 posted on 12/10/2011 9:06:50 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
That argument would only make sense if Gingrich could actually beat Obama. But Rasmussen says he can't: Rasmussen: Obama 45%, Gingrich 40% Who in their right mind cites a poll almost A YEAR AWAY from the election? Absolutely worthless. ...and why do the networks even do polls like this so far out from the election? Two months ago Obama was crushing Newt, now Newt is within 5 points. Newt month Newt could be up by 10 points.... and it is equally meaningless. I would be ashamed to post that.
47 posted on 12/10/2011 9:09:14 AM PST by jageorge72 (http://www.newtvsobama.com)
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To: nathanbedford

You don’t really know modern women that well.

In the seventies there were about twenty soap operas on television. I know, because I was raised in a household where the soaps were on, every day, like clock work.

There are only six left today. And they’re dying.

Univision is the only thriving soap opera market these days.

American women have evolved. They don’t have time for soap operas. They work outside the home. They have other outlets for entertainment. And most of them don’t have consecutive hours every week to devote to a serial story line that they must follow every day to keep up with the plot.

I don’t know any American woman that watches soap operas anymore. And I myself haven’t watched them in about twenty years.

But men will still watch football. That will never end.


48 posted on 12/10/2011 9:14:55 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: bagman

When Gingrich was first elected, I was a liberal Democrat.

I voted for my last Democrat in 1988. (While Perry was aiding Al Gore in Texas)

Intelligent people gain wisdom as they age. I doubt Newt has stood still either and I give much more weight to his words of today than those of decades ago.


49 posted on 12/10/2011 9:15:22 AM PST by eddie willers
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To: yoe
Ms. Noonan pirouettes between the beds of Obama and Romney.

She is a "conservative" like Obama who she supported.

50 posted on 12/10/2011 9:17:40 AM PST by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: yoe; Admin Moderator

I believe that this thread is a duplicate:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2818122/posts


51 posted on 12/10/2011 9:21:02 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: org.whodat

>> Las Vegas odds, obummer 200 to 1, newt 5000 to 1.

OK, wise guy — who exactly would that be?


52 posted on 12/10/2011 9:23:05 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: yoe

Peggy Noonan is pompous.


53 posted on 12/10/2011 9:24:04 AM PST by AdaGray
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To: BarnacleCenturion
I guess you are one of those self-impressed, infantile people who believe that

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and dogmatic repetition of half-truths and out right lies somehow renders them more factual and credible.

You are a joke and so is your little screed.

Newt 2012!!!
54 posted on 12/10/2011 9:25:29 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Cat got your tongue, newbie troll?

>> Gingrich is dangerous. He offers only that which is good for Newt.

THEN WHO?

Put up or STFU.


55 posted on 12/10/2011 9:26:16 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: org.whodat
What were the Vegas odds on Reagan back in December of 1979?

What were the Vegas odds on Barama back in December of 2007?

I know I always look to the bookies to decide who's going to be elected. /sarc
56 posted on 12/10/2011 9:31:04 AM PST by Sudetenland (Anybody but Obama!!!!)
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To: BunnySlippers
"You didn’t see the huge thread yesterday?"

I did not....will follow all accusations about Newt in post #5 and stay in touch...Newt has been misquoted so many times, not one News article can be trusted...research the text of his words etc.

Newt is an admitted Conservative Moderate....I believe Romney is nearly as Faux Populist as Obama...the MSM talking heads say Obama is a Populist: : a member of a political party claiming to represent the common people; especially often capitalized : a member of a United States political party formed in 1891 primarily to represent agrarian interests and to advocate the free coinage of silver and government control of monopolies

Obama may claim to be "populist", I've never heard him refer to himself as one, only the MSM and talking heads....Obama is not for the people he is for Big Government which shuts out innovative people.

57 posted on 12/10/2011 9:33:42 AM PST by yoe
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To: yoe

Newt is INSPIRING American voters that are looking for a brilliant leader with great ideas and Newt is disturbing to the establishment Rove clones, msm and the leftwingers.
HOW dare Gingrich PROVE Noonan, Krauthammer aka Sour Kraut and Karl Rove WRONG...they all said he would never get out of single digits. Newt is soaring...the talking heads make a living out of being RIGHT but guess what? they were all wrong. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEWT!!


58 posted on 12/10/2011 9:39:27 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: yoe

I find your lack of faith disturbing!

59 posted on 12/10/2011 9:40:31 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

SO much cheap spam and all faux, cheap hits. How easy to spin like a persian rug made in China.


60 posted on 12/10/2011 9:42:23 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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