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Gingrich opens up big leads in South Carolina and Florida [NBC/Marist poll - TEA PARTY POWER]
MSNBC ^ | Dec 11, 2012 | By NBC's Mark Murray

Posted on 12/11/2011 12:02:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson

"In a new NBC/Marist poll, Newt Gingrich has surged into the lead in Iowa, but Mitt Romney's big lead in New Hampshire remains. NBC's Mike Viqueira and David Gregory report."

Newt Gingrich’s surge in the polls isn’t limited to just the early presidential-nominating contest of Iowa. According to new NBC News-Marist polls, the former House speaker has now opened up commanding leads in South Carolina and Florida -- two states that historically have played important roles in deciding the eventual Republican nominee.

Fueled by the support from conservatives and the Tea Party, Gingrich is ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by nearly 20 points in South Carolina. The winner of that state's primary has gone on to capture each GOP nomination since 1980.

And he leads Romney by double digits in Florida, whose primary ultimately ended up deciding the party’s pick in 2008.

“You can see why the Romney people are getting a little itchy,” said Lee Miringoff, the director of Marist College’s Institute for Public Opinion, referring to the Romney campaign’s recent attacks on Gingrich. Gingrich ahead “any way you slice it”

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Tea Party power

According to the two polls, Gingrich performs especially well among the most conservative primary voters.

Among Tea Party supporters -- who make up about half of all likely primary voters in South Carolina and Florida -- the former House speaker leads Romney by more than 30 percentage points in both states (51-20 percent in South Carolina and 57-22 percent in Florida).

Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among “conservative” and “very conservative” voters.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Florida; US: Iowa; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: elections; florida; gingrich; hillbuzz; iowa; kevindujan; newt; newtgingrich; southcarolina; teapartyrebellion
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1 posted on 12/11/2011 12:02:24 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
OK, so the Tea Party is backing Gingrich? I didn't know that.

I read something that said Gingrich's election would hurt the Tea Party.

2 posted on 12/11/2011 12:06:14 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: Jim Robinson

Real Clear Politics has Romney at 36 and Newt at 24.3.

You FReepers from New Hampshire: What can we do to help?


3 posted on 12/11/2011 12:10:06 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: TitansAFC

ping


4 posted on 12/11/2011 12:10:30 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
HEY there Jimbo, things are looking up for a read donnybrook in the Republican Primary, want to bet $10,000 on any specific candidate??? Best Regards Jim, you and your little Bride have a Merry Christmas.
5 posted on 12/11/2011 12:11:01 PM PST by BooBoo1000 ("Think for yourself")
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To: Jim Robinson
Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among “conservative” and “very conservative” voters.

Because he is talking conservative and he "ain't" backing down.

Pretty impressive!

I wonder what the media is going to try and spring on him to shut him down?

6 posted on 12/11/2011 12:13:22 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: PapaNew
heh. Don't believe everything you read. Especially as regards politics. We have self appointed experts right here who will tell you, for whatever insane reason, that "the Tea party will never support Newt!"

Remember, the Tea Party is you and me, not some publicity hound posing as a TP "leader" or "spokesman."

7 posted on 12/11/2011 12:14:09 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: PapaNew

“I read something that said Gingrich’s election would hurt the Tea Party.”

Written by an Obama Journo-Lister, no doubt.

Remember, the left believes the Tea Party is now a NEGATIVE BRAND, thanks to three years of attacks on the idea, and that associating anyone with it is the kiss of death.


8 posted on 12/11/2011 12:14:34 PM PST by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim. Saw a poll showing Newt has 82% support amongst Tea Party people. Rosie O'Donnell’s freakout has to be considered a plus, ditto Peggy Noonan’s “concern”.

Prepare for the flood of “I'll never vote for Newt” folks, from folks who never vote anyway.

The conservatives who don't like Newt better coalesce behind one candidate soon or they are toast. It's too late to simply be against someone. It's time to pick a horse and ride. I'm curious to see how Newt holds up when the media really kicks in and goes after him.

9 posted on 12/11/2011 12:16:00 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (....The days are long, but the years are short.....)
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To: Jim Robinson

This race is getting more and more interesting! I had no idea that we in the tea party were supporting Gingrich, but he IS a heck of a lot better than Myth....for what it’s worth.


10 posted on 12/11/2011 12:18:34 PM PST by LUV W (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: PapaNew

Here is all you need to know about Newt Gingrich.

Who is the GOP establishment afraid of? It’s clear from the MSM.

Who is George Will afraid of and who is Obama’s campaign stooges scrambling to deal with? Gingrich.

In the words of Colonel David Hackworth, who is a “truth teller”? Gingrich.

Who won the debate? Gingrich.


11 posted on 12/11/2011 12:20:50 PM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: PapaNew

I think the tea party is beginning to warm up to him. Newt is a pro-life, Reagan Coalition Christian conservative and he’s knowledgeable, experienced, fully vetted (sought redemption and is largely forgiven), is battle tested and rip-roaring ready to hit the ground running. No on the job training necessary. He’s a deficit cutting, tax cutting, budget balancing, welfare reforming, socialist healthcare program (HillaryCare) blocking, small government, big defense dynamo. He’s already taking the battle to the enemy. In short, we’re desperate and he’s exactly what we’re looking for.


12 posted on 12/11/2011 12:21:01 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: EGPWS

I think it’s going to be hard to “shut him down”.....he understands the drill and he’s a tough old bird!

I’ve just NEVER considered him conservative. Interesting how things play out!


13 posted on 12/11/2011 12:22:28 PM PST by LUV W (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: SaxxonWoods

“I’m curious to see how Newt holds up when the media really kicks in and goes after him.”

There going to go after who ever is in the lead. Newt will handle it better than anyone else...


14 posted on 12/11/2011 12:24:13 PM PST by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: kalee; TitansAFC; onyx; LuvFreeRepublic; Sea Parrot; SweetCaroline; matthew fuller; Gator113; ...

Newt Ping!

Karl Rove deeply saddened............


15 posted on 12/11/2011 12:25:33 PM PST by TitansAFC (Newt Gingrich and Rick Perry are not your enemies, my fellow Freepers!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Ha ! NBC News/Marist polls are the new Tea Party standard. Remember that. What I do not like about this is so many people who think they are smart are falling for it. This thing is a set up.

And before he is the nominee you expect the media to expose Newt as an addict of big government on par with any Democrat. i’m fairly certain that MSM will destroy him in the general election with the same things they are just reporting right now.


16 posted on 12/11/2011 12:26:08 PM PST by erlayman
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To: LUV W
I’ve just NEVER considered him [Gingrich] conservative.

Newt makes W look like a socialist.

Do you still "Luv W"?

Did you consider "W" to be a conservative?

17 posted on 12/11/2011 12:27:57 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Jim Robinson

The one issue that unifies TEA participants are, of course taxes. These are Newt’s positions on that issue.

http://www.issues2000.org/2012/Newt_Gingrich_Tax_Reform.htm


18 posted on 12/11/2011 12:28:18 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: LUV W

“I had no idea that we in the tea party were supporting Gingrich...”

Me either. Newt’s a big government RINO. Oh, I’ll probably be forced to vote for him (as I bite my tongue in half) but I’ll never call him a ‘Conservative’.

Better than Myth for sure and a gazillion times better than the Muslim 0bama. Guess we’ll have to settle for Newt.


19 posted on 12/11/2011 12:28:18 PM PST by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: LUV W

He’s not my first choice however he isn’t in the “no vote” column with Romney and Huntsman.


20 posted on 12/11/2011 12:29:05 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Jim Robinson; PapaNew

Forgot to mention, that as a Reagan protege and with his successful years in the congress and as Speaker he knows how to maneuver the DC and congressional minefields a lot better than someone like Romney who allied himself with Ted Kennedy to get his moderate (socialist) agenda through.


21 posted on 12/11/2011 12:29:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: panaxanax
Guess we’ll have to settle for Newt.

Not a single primary vote has been cast. Just a tad premature.

22 posted on 12/11/2011 12:29:51 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Jim Robinson

Liberals have been touting this stupid poll, because is seems to show that Obama leads either Gingrich or Romney in South Carolina.

That’s laughable in my mind.

A look inside the data tells you how they cook the data.

1)It’s a “Registered Voters” poll which tends to favor Democrats.

2) Democrats constitute 33% of those surveyed, versus 30% Republicans. I don’t know what the breakdown of registered voters in SC is, but I doubt that there are more Dems than Republicans. I doubt registered Democrats are even close to the number of registered Republicans

3)After screening for turnout expectations Democrats only account for 2% of Likely Voters versus Republicans who constitute 65% of Likely Voters

That’s a massive “enthusiasm gap” and renders the “Registered Voters” results worthless, IMHO.

If anything it points to Obama getting blown out of the water.


23 posted on 12/11/2011 12:30:25 PM PST by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I just checked intrade. Newt really is gaining and mitt is falling. I don’t put much faith in these silly polls, but intrade is different. I trust intrade a little more than the others.

I’m not voting for newt in the primary. If I vote in the primary at all it will be for santorum...haven’t decided if I’m going to show up or not.


24 posted on 12/11/2011 12:30:59 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: EGPWS

“I wonder what the media is going to try and spring on him to shut him down?”

Some would answer the infidelity stuff but unlike with Cain EVERYBODY already knows about Newt’s past so it won’t work.


25 posted on 12/11/2011 12:31:15 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: TitansAFC

If Tokyo is depressed you know Newt is on the right track. He ruled that debate last night. Between that and announcing he will ask Bolton to take over State he has really done himself some good. Its beginning to look a lot like Newt.


26 posted on 12/11/2011 12:33:17 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“In short, we’re desperate and he’s exactly what we’re looking for.”

Your opinion holds a lot of weight with me, Jim. Unless Palin gets back in (too late I’m told) - Newt will get my vote.


27 posted on 12/11/2011 12:34:03 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: P-Marlowe

Yes, I do still “luvw”. I consider him more conservative that the pre-primary-candidate Gingrich, who has done quite a makeover I can support Gingrich, though, whereas I could NEVER support Romney!


28 posted on 12/11/2011 12:35:18 PM PST by LUV W (This tagline reserved for a hero.......)
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To: panaxanax

I’m Tea Party....and I’m supporting him.

His answer last night to Diane Sawyer regarding the “Palestinians” settled it for me....

...along with his quip aimed at Romney...regarding Romney’s fear of stating that same truth due to... timidity!

Priceless!


29 posted on 12/11/2011 12:36:46 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Jim Robinson

Tea Party Power my eye. Newts a Rino and NBC lies. Don’t believe it and not voting for him in the primary. I am Tea party and have not sold out my values to fake polls.


30 posted on 12/11/2011 12:39:04 PM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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To: Jim Robinson

In short, we’re desperate and he’s exactly what we’re looking for.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I dunno about “exactly”. I’d replace that adjective with “as close as we’re gonna get to”.


31 posted on 12/11/2011 12:41:07 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: toddausauras

It really was offensive and tabloid trashy for supposedly ‘neutral debate moderators’ to ask about personal, marital infidelity matters of one candidate and invite others to comment. A Presidential debate or group psychotherapy session?? Voyeurs!

But, making lemonade out of lemons - Newt handled it well and any more of that cr@p will be perceived as piling on.


32 posted on 12/11/2011 12:41:07 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
I don't think anyone knows Gingrich's warts better than We the Tea. We're a pretty informed bunch. We know he's got the flaws, and we're able and ready to cope with them. I find him better than McCain, and I ended up voting for McVain in the general election.

All I know is I'd crawl over broken glass to vote against Barack Obama, even if the Republican candidate's name is Spongebob.

I didn't get the candidate I wanted, but that happens to grownups a lot. I'll take what I can get and work with it.

33 posted on 12/11/2011 12:46:00 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: panaxanax

I went back and reviewed his record. He’s far from a big government RINO. As a pro-life congressman he was a Reagan Coalition member and Reagan Revolution fighter. As Speaker he led his new Republican majority (the Republican Revolution) to pass the Contract with America, cut the deficit, cut the taxes, reform welfare, block Clinton’s agenda, balanced the budget four years running, and extended the Reagan economy through the nineties. Not a bad job for a RINO. As a historian and an appreciator of our Christian Founding and our founding principle that our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are a gift of God, he’s a natural fit for the TEA Party Rebellion.


34 posted on 12/11/2011 12:47:11 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Looks like 70+ percent of Republican voters in South Carolina and Florida have already made up their minds not to vote for a conservative candidate in next year's primary election.
35 posted on 12/11/2011 12:47:41 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Jim Robinson

Will this week finally be the one which sees the support floor for Mittens collapse? Could happen. Even RINO creeps must see after this debate that Mittens is completely unprepared to be president, and would be decimated by Obama as our nominee. When will they give it up?


36 posted on 12/11/2011 12:48:18 PM PST by montag813
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To: Jim Robinson

Newt will wipe the floor with Obama in a debate and I bet Obama will be shaking in his boots. Should Newt win I look for the Obama team to make zero seem like the victim of mean ole Newt a la Hillary and Rick Lazio in their debate (which was laughable knowing what an aggressive witch Hillary really is). I think Obama will have to go for sympathy rather than competence - since he’s incompetent anyway.

One thing I know - he’s the smartest guy on our side - wish I were sure that he could beat zero in the election.


37 posted on 12/11/2011 12:53:15 PM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Mechanicos
I went back and reviewed his record. He’s far from a big government RINO. As a pro-life congressman he was a Reagan Coalition member and Reagan Revolution fighter. As Speaker he led his new Republican majority (the Republican Revolution) to pass the Contract with America, cut the deficit, cut the taxes, reform welfare, block Clinton’s agenda, balanced the budget four years running, and extended the Reagan economy through the nineties. Not a bad job for a RINO. As a historian and an appreciator of our Christian Founding and our founding principle that our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are a gift of God, he’s a natural fit for the TEA Party Rebellion.

By the way, Gallup's polls last week said the same thing about Gingrich leading Romney and all others among tea party and Republican conservatives:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/151355/Gingrich-Romney-Among-GOP-Voters-Nationwide.aspx

It ain't no fluke and it's not just NBC lies. Gingrich is killing them in the debates and the polls. Tea party folks and the conservative base are flocking to him.

38 posted on 12/11/2011 12:54:31 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: mamelukesabre
I’m not voting for newt in the primary. If I vote in the primary at all it will be for santorum...

Santorum will get my vote as well. Too bad there are a bunch of so-called 'Republicans' who will blindly vote for a 'Government is the Answer' candidate like Newt Gingrich simply because he is leading in the polls.

39 posted on 12/11/2011 12:55:21 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Jim Robinson; Diogenesis; AmericanInTokyo; SJackson; Grampa Dave
Newt Gingrich and the "Invented" Palestinian People

Daniel Pipes, defender of Israel and an unsurpassed expert student and commentator on the Middle East regarding Newt Gingrich's recent dramatic clarification:

absolutely correct

In a stunningly simple confirmation of two (2) paragraphs, Daniel Pipes affirms Newt Gingrich's rejection of the imaginary people who did not exit until 1920.


40 posted on 12/11/2011 12:56:10 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Newt has had his dirty laundry aired for years....which means most of his balloons have been popped....they are resorting to women from 1977 now.....so, me thinks he’s pretty well innoculated, plus he has the chutzpah to back the MSM into a corner....and fight to the death...metaphorically, of course....me, I still no not know who I support....still watching....but, NEWT IS intriguing.


41 posted on 12/11/2011 12:58:10 PM PST by goodnesswins (Bad planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine....)
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To: SaxxonWoods
Saw a poll showing Newt has 82% support amongst Tea Party people.

I would surmise that those 82% know nothing about GingrichCare.

42 posted on 12/11/2011 12:58:19 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Jim Robinson

I would consider myself tea party. Have spoken at some events in fact. And Newt was way down on my list a few months ago for all of the reasons we all know. But he has earned his way back in with a solid presentation of tea party principles and vision for America.

And he’s reminded me why he was the original tea party type guy - with the Contract with America in 1994. And make no mistake, that was his revolution. He led the friendly forces and he was the target of the enemy forces. None of that is even in dispute.

So yes, it makes perfect since to me that Newt is getting huge tea party support. And anyone being honest with themselves would have to admit that down deep, they know Newt is the man to debate Obama.


43 posted on 12/11/2011 12:58:51 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among “conservative” and “very conservative” voters.”

Not because he is conservative nor because he has Tea Party principles. Only because he stands up to the press and he’s not Romney.


44 posted on 12/11/2011 1:02:28 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Jim Robinson; hinckley buzzard; tcrlaf; Peter from Rutland
OK. Let's hope this time the "white-haired wrinkly (chubby) dude" can beat "The One Who we have been waiting for."

Gingrich is not "cool" but he's substantive. Hopefully enough people will have changed their minds about how "cool" it is to vote for "The One."

45 posted on 12/11/2011 1:03:44 PM PST by PapaNew
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To: APatientMan
Your opinion holds a lot of weight with me, Jim. Unless Palin gets back in (too late I’m told) - Newt will get my vote.

That's exactly how I feel too... even down to wishing Palin would get in - and knowing it's too late. Newt's the man.

46 posted on 12/11/2011 1:04:45 PM PST by GOPJ (Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, Than a fatted calf with hatred - Proverbs 15)
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To: Mechanicos

>> Tea Party Power my eye. Newts a Rino and NBC lies. Don’t believe it and not voting for him in the primary. I am Tea party and have not sold out my values to fake polls. >>

With due respect, I’d put my tea party cred up against yours any day. I’d put Jim Rob’s tea party cred up against yours any day. I’d take the cred of all the polls everywhere up against your cred. And all of that points to one thing: Newt is rocking with a lot of tea party support.

And the reason is simple: he is the inventor of the Contract with America and he spearheaded the 94 revolution - in a way a precursor to today’s tea party. He can accomplish a lot of what we want.

And we just don’t think MB and RS can accomplish that for us, and Perry doesn’t look like he can make it and HC has gone bye bye.

Newt and the Tea Party. Makes perfect sense to anyone who knows Newt, the contract, and history.


47 posted on 12/11/2011 1:04:45 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Moderator of Florida Tea Party Convention Presidential Debate)
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To: Jim Robinson

I agree, Jim.

And, for the rest of your young whipper-snappers here. Some of us are old enough to remember how effective he was during his tenure as speaker of the house. I am sure he rubbed some of the rinos the wrong way.

He certainly upset our dear little Mrs. Pelosi and her gang, who tried their hardest to get him, but he was cleared of any wrongdoing by the IRS, if I remember correctly.

My husband and I have decided that Gingrich gets our vote. But, we worry that Paul supporters will opt out/or that Paul will run as an independent, giving us Obama instead.


48 posted on 12/11/2011 1:04:45 PM PST by jacquej
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To: SumProVita

IBTZ......give me a break. You are not long here.


49 posted on 12/11/2011 1:06:23 PM PST by mmanager
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To: Jim Robinson
...isn’t limited to just the early presidential-nominating contest of Iowa.....the former House speaker has now opened up 'commanding leads' in South Carolina and Florida -- two states that historically have played important roles in deciding the eventual Republican nominee.

Ya hoo!!!!! Go Newt...Go!!!!

50 posted on 12/11/2011 1:06:59 PM PST by caww
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