Skip to comments.Gingrich opens up big leads in South Carolina and Florida [NBC/Marist poll - TEA PARTY POWER]
Posted on 12/11/2011 12:02:07 PM PST by Jim Robinson
"In a new NBC/Marist poll, Newt Gingrich has surged into the lead in Iowa, but Mitt Romney's big lead in New Hampshire remains. NBC's Mike Viqueira and David Gregory report."
Newt Gingrichs surge in the polls isnt limited to just the early presidential-nominating contest of Iowa. According to new NBC News-Marist polls, the former House speaker has now opened up commanding leads in South Carolina and Florida -- two states that historically have played important roles in deciding the eventual Republican nominee.
Fueled by the support from conservatives and the Tea Party, Gingrich is ahead of former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney by nearly 20 points in South Carolina. The winner of that state's primary has gone on to capture each GOP nomination since 1980.
And he leads Romney by double digits in Florida, whose primary ultimately ended up deciding the partys pick in 2008.
You can see why the Romney people are getting a little itchy, said Lee Miringoff, the director of Marist Colleges Institute for Public Opinion, referring to the Romney campaigns recent attacks on Gingrich. Gingrich ahead any way you slice it
Tea Party power
According to the two polls, Gingrich performs especially well among the most conservative primary voters.
Among Tea Party supporters -- who make up about half of all likely primary voters in South Carolina and Florida -- the former House speaker leads Romney by more than 30 percentage points in both states (51-20 percent in South Carolina and 57-22 percent in Florida).
Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among conservative and very conservative voters.
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I read something that said Gingrich's election would hurt the Tea Party.
Real Clear Politics has Romney at 36 and Newt at 24.3.
You FReepers from New Hampshire: What can we do to help?
Because he is talking conservative and he "ain't" backing down.
I wonder what the media is going to try and spring on him to shut him down?
Remember, the Tea Party is you and me, not some publicity hound posing as a TP "leader" or "spokesman."
“I read something that said Gingrich’s election would hurt the Tea Party.”
Written by an Obama Journo-Lister, no doubt.
Remember, the left believes the Tea Party is now a NEGATIVE BRAND, thanks to three years of attacks on the idea, and that associating anyone with it is the kiss of death.
Prepare for the flood of “I'll never vote for Newt” folks, from folks who never vote anyway.
The conservatives who don't like Newt better coalesce behind one candidate soon or they are toast. It's too late to simply be against someone. It's time to pick a horse and ride. I'm curious to see how Newt holds up when the media really kicks in and goes after him.
This race is getting more and more interesting! I had no idea that we in the tea party were supporting Gingrich, but he IS a heck of a lot better than Myth....for what it’s worth.
Here is all you need to know about Newt Gingrich.
Who is the GOP establishment afraid of? It’s clear from the MSM.
Who is George Will afraid of and who is Obama’s campaign stooges scrambling to deal with? Gingrich.
In the words of Colonel David Hackworth, who is a “truth teller”? Gingrich.
Who won the debate? Gingrich.
I think the tea party is beginning to warm up to him. Newt is a pro-life, Reagan Coalition Christian conservative and he’s knowledgeable, experienced, fully vetted (sought redemption and is largely forgiven), is battle tested and rip-roaring ready to hit the ground running. No on the job training necessary. He’s a deficit cutting, tax cutting, budget balancing, welfare reforming, socialist healthcare program (HillaryCare) blocking, small government, big defense dynamo. He’s already taking the battle to the enemy. In short, we’re desperate and he’s exactly what we’re looking for.
I think it’s going to be hard to “shut him down”.....he understands the drill and he’s a tough old bird!
I’ve just NEVER considered him conservative. Interesting how things play out!
“I’m curious to see how Newt holds up when the media really kicks in and goes after him.”
There going to go after who ever is in the lead. Newt will handle it better than anyone else...
Karl Rove deeply saddened............
Ha ! NBC News/Marist polls are the new Tea Party standard. Remember that. What I do not like about this is so many people who think they are smart are falling for it. This thing is a set up.
And before he is the nominee you expect the media to expose Newt as an addict of big government on par with any Democrat. i’m fairly certain that MSM will destroy him in the general election with the same things they are just reporting right now.
Newt makes W look like a socialist.
Do you still "Luv W"?
Did you consider "W" to be a conservative?
The one issue that unifies TEA participants are, of course taxes. These are Newt’s positions on that issue.
“I had no idea that we in the tea party were supporting Gingrich...”
Me either. Newt’s a big government RINO. Oh, I’ll probably be forced to vote for him (as I bite my tongue in half) but I’ll never call him a ‘Conservative’.
Better than Myth for sure and a gazillion times better than the Muslim 0bama. Guess we’ll have to settle for Newt.
He’s not my first choice however he isn’t in the “no vote” column with Romney and Huntsman.
Forgot to mention, that as a Reagan protege and with his successful years in the congress and as Speaker he knows how to maneuver the DC and congressional minefields a lot better than someone like Romney who allied himself with Ted Kennedy to get his moderate (socialist) agenda through.
Not a single primary vote has been cast. Just a tad premature.
Liberals have been touting this stupid poll, because is seems to show that Obama leads either Gingrich or Romney in South Carolina.
That’s laughable in my mind.
A look inside the data tells you how they cook the data.
1)It’s a “Registered Voters” poll which tends to favor Democrats.
2) Democrats constitute 33% of those surveyed, versus 30% Republicans. I don’t know what the breakdown of registered voters in SC is, but I doubt that there are more Dems than Republicans. I doubt registered Democrats are even close to the number of registered Republicans
3)After screening for turnout expectations Democrats only account for 2% of Likely Voters versus Republicans who constitute 65% of Likely Voters
That’s a massive “enthusiasm gap” and renders the “Registered Voters” results worthless, IMHO.
If anything it points to Obama getting blown out of the water.
I just checked intrade. Newt really is gaining and mitt is falling. I don’t put much faith in these silly polls, but intrade is different. I trust intrade a little more than the others.
I’m not voting for newt in the primary. If I vote in the primary at all it will be for santorum...haven’t decided if I’m going to show up or not.
“I wonder what the media is going to try and spring on him to shut him down?”
Some would answer the infidelity stuff but unlike with Cain EVERYBODY already knows about Newt’s past so it won’t work.
If Tokyo is depressed you know Newt is on the right track. He ruled that debate last night. Between that and announcing he will ask Bolton to take over State he has really done himself some good. Its beginning to look a lot like Newt.
“In short, were desperate and hes exactly what were looking for.”
Your opinion holds a lot of weight with me, Jim. Unless Palin gets back in (too late I’m told) - Newt will get my vote.
Yes, I do still “luvw”. I consider him more conservative that the pre-primary-candidate Gingrich, who has done quite a makeover I can support Gingrich, though, whereas I could NEVER support Romney!
I’m Tea Party....and I’m supporting him.
His answer last night to Diane Sawyer regarding the “Palestinians” settled it for me....
...along with his quip aimed at Romney...regarding Romney’s fear of stating that same truth due to... timidity!
Tea Party Power my eye. Newts a Rino and NBC lies. Don’t believe it and not voting for him in the primary. I am Tea party and have not sold out my values to fake polls.
In short, were desperate and hes exactly what were looking for.
I dunno about “exactly”. I’d replace that adjective with “as close as we’re gonna get to”.
It really was offensive and tabloid trashy for supposedly ‘neutral debate moderators’ to ask about personal, marital infidelity matters of one candidate and invite others to comment. A Presidential debate or group psychotherapy session?? Voyeurs!
But, making lemonade out of lemons - Newt handled it well and any more of that cr@p will be perceived as piling on.
All I know is I'd crawl over broken glass to vote against Barack Obama, even if the Republican candidate's name is Spongebob.
I didn't get the candidate I wanted, but that happens to grownups a lot. I'll take what I can get and work with it.
I went back and reviewed his record. He’s far from a big government RINO. As a pro-life congressman he was a Reagan Coalition member and Reagan Revolution fighter. As Speaker he led his new Republican majority (the Republican Revolution) to pass the Contract with America, cut the deficit, cut the taxes, reform welfare, block Clinton’s agenda, balanced the budget four years running, and extended the Reagan economy through the nineties. Not a bad job for a RINO. As a historian and an appreciator of our Christian Founding and our founding principle that our unalienable rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness are a gift of God, he’s a natural fit for the TEA Party Rebellion.
Will this week finally be the one which sees the support floor for Mittens collapse? Could happen. Even RINO creeps must see after this debate that Mittens is completely unprepared to be president, and would be decimated by Obama as our nominee. When will they give it up?
Newt will wipe the floor with Obama in a debate and I bet Obama will be shaking in his boots. Should Newt win I look for the Obama team to make zero seem like the victim of mean ole Newt a la Hillary and Rick Lazio in their debate (which was laughable knowing what an aggressive witch Hillary really is). I think Obama will have to go for sympathy rather than competence - since he’s incompetent anyway.
One thing I know - he’s the smartest guy on our side - wish I were sure that he could beat zero in the election.
By the way, Gallup's polls last week said the same thing about Gingrich leading Romney and all others among tea party and Republican conservatives:
It ain't no fluke and it's not just NBC lies. Gingrich is killing them in the debates and the polls. Tea party folks and the conservative base are flocking to him.
Santorum will get my vote as well. Too bad there are a bunch of so-called 'Republicans' who will blindly vote for a 'Government is the Answer' candidate like Newt Gingrich simply because he is leading in the polls.
Newt Gingrich and the "Invented" Palestinian People
Daniel Pipes, defender of Israel and an unsurpassed expert student and commentator on the Middle East regarding Newt Gingrich's recent dramatic clarification:
In a stunningly simple confirmation of two (2) paragraphs, Daniel Pipes affirms Newt Gingrich's rejection of the imaginary people who did not exit until 1920.
Newt has had his dirty laundry aired for years....which means most of his balloons have been popped....they are resorting to women from 1977 now.....so, me thinks he’s pretty well innoculated, plus he has the chutzpah to back the MSM into a corner....and fight to the death...metaphorically, of course....me, I still no not know who I support....still watching....but, NEWT IS intriguing.
I would surmise that those 82% know nothing about GingrichCare.
I would consider myself tea party. Have spoken at some events in fact. And Newt was way down on my list a few months ago for all of the reasons we all know. But he has earned his way back in with a solid presentation of tea party principles and vision for America.
And he’s reminded me why he was the original tea party type guy - with the Contract with America in 1994. And make no mistake, that was his revolution. He led the friendly forces and he was the target of the enemy forces. None of that is even in dispute.
So yes, it makes perfect since to me that Newt is getting huge tea party support. And anyone being honest with themselves would have to admit that down deep, they know Newt is the man to debate Obama.
“Gingrich also enjoys huge leads among conservative and very conservative voters.”
Not because he is conservative nor because he has Tea Party principles. Only because he stands up to the press and he’s not Romney.
Gingrich is not "cool" but he's substantive. Hopefully enough people will have changed their minds about how "cool" it is to vote for "The One."
That's exactly how I feel too... even down to wishing Palin would get in - and knowing it's too late. Newt's the man.
>> Tea Party Power my eye. Newts a Rino and NBC lies. Dont believe it and not voting for him in the primary. I am Tea party and have not sold out my values to fake polls. >>
With due respect, I’d put my tea party cred up against yours any day. I’d put Jim Rob’s tea party cred up against yours any day. I’d take the cred of all the polls everywhere up against your cred. And all of that points to one thing: Newt is rocking with a lot of tea party support.
And the reason is simple: he is the inventor of the Contract with America and he spearheaded the 94 revolution - in a way a precursor to today’s tea party. He can accomplish a lot of what we want.
And we just don’t think MB and RS can accomplish that for us, and Perry doesn’t look like he can make it and HC has gone bye bye.
Newt and the Tea Party. Makes perfect sense to anyone who knows Newt, the contract, and history.
I agree, Jim.
And, for the rest of your young whipper-snappers here. Some of us are old enough to remember how effective he was during his tenure as speaker of the house. I am sure he rubbed some of the rinos the wrong way.
He certainly upset our dear little Mrs. Pelosi and her gang, who tried their hardest to get him, but he was cleared of any wrongdoing by the IRS, if I remember correctly.
My husband and I have decided that Gingrich gets our vote. But, we worry that Paul supporters will opt out/or that Paul will run as an independent, giving us Obama instead.
IBTZ......give me a break. You are not long here.
Ya hoo!!!!! Go Newt...Go!!!!