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1 posted on 12/14/2011 7:00:28 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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Oh comeon, really?

Everybody knows that RUN Paul leads and Perry is the upset in this election. (PPP said so in Iowa.)

Okay, now you can add my “sarc” tag.........


2 posted on 12/14/2011 7:04:21 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in t,he road, take it........)
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Iowa results

Overall - Gingrich +12.1
Insider Advantage 12/12 - 12/12 517 LV — Gingrich +10
PPP (D) 12/11 - 12/13 555 LV — Gingrich +1
Univ. of Iowa 11/30 - 12/7 277 LV Gingrich +10
CNN/Time 11/29 - 12/6 419 LV — Gingrich +13
CBS News/NY Times 11/30 - 12/5 642 RV — Gingrich +14
ABC News/Wash Post 11/30 - 12/4 356 LV — Gingrich +15

Hmm, PPP (Daily KOS/SEIU affiliated) off from everyone else by double digits. Can you say “outlier?” And this poll being blasted in headlines at Drudge. Despicable.


4 posted on 12/14/2011 7:08:08 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the Devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, "Paradise Lost")
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Wasn’t it Karl Rove that informed us a couple of weeks ago that it was really a 24% to 24% race or so and that the 33% poll he was showing on his white board was an outlier? Well the only outLIAR that night on Greta was Karl Rove himself trying desperately to save his guy Romney. It didn’t work did it Karl?


6 posted on 12/14/2011 7:09:58 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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It has been great fun watching Tebow but I think there is going be a big bump in the road of his dream season next Sunday. Tom Brady vs. Tim Tebow. I’ll take Brady.

But I’ll be pulling for Denver. How could you not?


7 posted on 12/14/2011 7:16:13 AM PST by InterceptPoint (TIN)
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Newt is slowly fading. Perry and Bachman are slowly rising, but not fast enough to get a conservative candidate with 3 weeks to go. Mitt and Paul are not moving and won’t.

What is happening is what I predicted as early as the summer. The anti-Mitt vote is going to be split so many times, Mitt is going to walk away winning with 25%.

If Newt is to win, he NEEDS to hold onto Iowa or he will have no momentum to carry SC.

If Perry is to win, he has to finish 2nd at worst in Iowa behing Newt (neither Ron Paul or Mitt can win Iowa). In this scenerio, he can probably stay in long enough to pick up enough of Newt’s eroding support to make a play in SC.

If Paul or Mitt win Iowa, it is over. Romney waltzes.


9 posted on 12/14/2011 7:30:56 AM PST by wolfman23601
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Did you know that marketing research can determine whether you are a conservative or a liberal by your purchasing and TV viewing patterns? They also can with great accuracy predict your political leanings by your zip code. Also, telephone number lists are generally sold by demographic, income, zip code, race, voting patterns, etc.

So when you see a public released political poll like all those mentioned this early in a major political race; in addition to number polled and likely voters - also ask yourself what information is provided to determine the lists used to select the zip code and demographics to interview for the “poll;” what is the assurance of quality of the interviewers; the time of day the calls occurred; who paid for the poll; do they have a known agenda; what were the total questions asked, etc? Without this information the polls are only saying whatever whomever is paying for them want them to say.

And yes, there are millions of rea$on$ to lie and make up multiple “polls” to manipulate people. If you think its not possible to do this kind of manipulation on a large scale, please see the push manipulation for AGW as just one of the better known examples.

Nevertheless, we all saw the outpouring of volunteers and individual cash donations for Palin and Cain. That is hard to fake. If The 2 alleged front runners are doing so well where are the similar individual efforts to support them?

The way the game is played is to set it up so the ones people like are always downplayed and the people have to chose to vote for a lesser evil to prevent a worse evil from winning.It’s very effective.

Yes, the polls do look close to accurate in the end. That’s because of the self fulfilling prophecy and the power of manipulation by the professionals. People are easy to herd when its marketed properly...


18 posted on 12/14/2011 8:30:30 AM PST by Mechanicos (Why does the DOE have a SWAT Team?)
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These guys are the best America has to offer to lead us? Obama, Newt, Scumney, Perry? Man, has the republic fallen.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 8:49:53 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The End of Days draws near. In this time, you should be drawing closer to the Lord Jesus Christ.)
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34 posted on 12/14/2011 10:54:06 AM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Notwithstanding; AdamBomb; big'ol_freeper; BigEdLB; Bokababe; Cato in PA; ez; Gator113; ...
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with new Pew, NBC, GfK, and Reuters polls added ...


Weighted 4-Poll Rolling Averages of the latest
20+ Polls listed at RCP   [as of Dec 14th]
plus
YouGov polls 12/3, 11/26 11/19, 11/12, 11/5, 10/29, 10/22, 10/15, 10/08, &
Poll Position 12/11, 12/04, 11/27, 11/22, 11/8, 11/1 polls inserted chronologically
Also the 11/9 - 11/14 Pew poll was broken into two, (3-day) polls


(Example methodology for this chart will be on my profile page)


Much like what the government does with unemployment statistics, this chart represents a 4-poll "rolling average" for the latest 20+ polls listed at RealClearPolitics.com (plus other recent national polls).

I also weighted the polls by their size. For example, a poll with a survey size of 1000 was weighted proportionately heavier than an 324 survey size.





( Gingrich-haters, please do not address or reply to me.)


35 posted on 12/14/2011 11:55:33 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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you know what I chuckle about (aside from triple-billing patients while forgetting to apply Novocaine)? All those folks who walked out on Newt because he took off for a week to celebrate his anniversary with his wife, saying that such a move meant he would fade away. They must feel pretty dumb about now.


52 posted on 12/14/2011 6:20:08 PM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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Gingrich is down nearly 40% in the last 3 days at Intrade.


55 posted on 12/14/2011 10:28:05 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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