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No cellphones, no texting by drivers, U.S. urges
The Washington Times ^ | December 13, 2011 | Joan Lowy, Associated Press

Posted on 12/14/2011 8:17:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WASHINGTON — Texting, emailing or using a cellphone while driving is simply too dangerous to be allowed anywhere, federal safety investigators declared Tuesday, recommending that all states impose a total ban except for emergencies.

Inspired by recent deadly crashes — including one in which a teen-ager sent or received 11 text messages in 11 minutes before an accident — the recommendation would apply even to hands-free devices, a much stricter rule than any current state law.

The unanimous recommendation by the five-member National Transportation Safety Board would make an exception for devices deemed to aid driver safety such as GPS navigation systems.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cellphones; drivers; nannystate; texting
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1 posted on 12/14/2011 8:17:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I could potentially support a texting/emailing ban, but banning cellphones altogether is overkill. Most drivers are quite capable of talking and driving at the same time, especially using headsets.


2 posted on 12/14/2011 8:20:36 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This recommendation is DOA.


3 posted on 12/14/2011 8:20:50 PM PST by Poundstone (A recent Federal retiree and proud of it!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I can’t find in my Constitution this particular enumerated power for the federal government to do this. Can somebody help me out here?


4 posted on 12/14/2011 8:20:55 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
I can't find in the Constitution where the government can require me to drive on the right side of the road, can you?

("That's different" won't cut it!)

5 posted on 12/14/2011 8:22:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: coloradan

Wait a minute. This has to be Constitutional? Holy carp, Coloradan! That changes things dramatically. :-)


6 posted on 12/14/2011 8:22:39 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That would be a good reason for me to ditch mine and save a ton of $$ every month.


7 posted on 12/14/2011 8:23:32 PM PST by Principle Over Politics (Romney 2012 is McCain 2008. No more RINOs!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thank God for the Federal governmnt pointing me in the right direction when it comes to my behavior. If it wasn’t for them I wouldn’t know what to do.


8 posted on 12/14/2011 8:24:02 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Yeah, those fascist (Communist if you happen to be a Conservative) Stop signs dictating our behavior!


9 posted on 12/14/2011 8:27:53 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am a reasonably good driver, but I don’t like to talk on the phone while I drive, it’s very distracting. Texting while driving is just plain stupid. Not sure it should be illegal, since it’s awful hard to enforce, but it needs to be made not worth doing - something like if it’s proven that you texted before an accident you void your insurance coverage.


10 posted on 12/14/2011 8:30:28 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Go Steelers (what's the baseball team called again?))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Ridiculous, What’ next?
Car stereos? GPS?
People fiddle with those things too while driving.

I have worked as a truck driver, I see people fiddling with a lot of things.

11 posted on 12/14/2011 8:32:58 PM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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MOUNTAIN VIEW, CA 94040 (650) 432-4664

Call this idiot from your car ..


12 posted on 12/14/2011 8:33:38 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: coloradan

I can’t find in my Constitution this particular enumerated power for the federal government to do this. Can somebody help me out here?
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The Constitution is no longer being observed. It was written by a bunch of old, white, rich, slave owners’, donchaknow. /s

Besides. Dear Leader wants full power to indefinitely detain, without due process, Americans on US soil who are considered “terrorists”. Last I read, I may be a suspect because on my “Gadsden Flag” magnet on the back of my car according to Janet Incompitano.


13 posted on 12/14/2011 8:34:28 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: sthguard

I generally don’t use my cell phone to talk, while driving.

But I do check my email and text while at red lights.


14 posted on 12/14/2011 8:34:54 PM PST by Jonty30 (If a person won't learn under the best of times, then he must learn under the worst of times.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

The problem is,is that cops will abuse this law and ticket people who are sitting in a parking lot checking their email.


15 posted on 12/14/2011 8:35:27 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Poundstone

This recommendation is DOA.
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Sounds like the new ‘tack’ for the Libs.

Overload something that is ridiculous off the top, go back and amend it, taking a few things out to appease all, then the pols can claim they ‘got tough’.

Shortly after, the little add ons start in the form of riders and before long they will have the whole thing in place, air tight, with the supposed backing of all.

Remember the smoking fiasco started with giving people ‘a place to enjoy a meal without smoke’, now they are attempting to stop you from smoking in your own home.

I was pretty much ‘laughed down’ several years ago when I opined that ‘they’ wouldn’t stop in the cars until the driver is in his own compartment, on top of the car with nothing but controls - like the old stagecoach.
BUT
Forget it, you won’t be allowed a shotgun pal either.


16 posted on 12/14/2011 8:36:18 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) History will treat me well - I intend to write it. W. Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; All

The statistics are that 28% of all accidents are caused by texting/cell phone usage. But you people here are more concerned with “your rights” than people’s safety?

What messages or phone calls are you taking that could POSSIBLY be so important that you’d put the lives of others in danger? And yes, there ARE emergencies, but if they occur you can pull over and call for help. If they occur on a regular basis, you have real problems.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/01/12/AR2010011202218.html


17 posted on 12/14/2011 8:37:30 PM PST by Joann37
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Truckers, cabbies, cops, have used hands free radios/phones for decades, and so should free people.


18 posted on 12/14/2011 8:38:19 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Whatever happened to citing for distracted driving, for which texting and cell-phoning certainly qualify?

Nanny State PING!


19 posted on 12/14/2011 8:39:16 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: right way right

Kids and eating are much worse. Worst is trying to watch the speedometer and the gps.


20 posted on 12/14/2011 8:40:06 PM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed, not afraid to use it. Cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: right way right

I read somewhere that eating, drinking, applying makeup, playing with the radio, and inserting CD and cassettes while driving cause more accidents that cell phone use.


21 posted on 12/14/2011 8:40:43 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: right way right

I read somewhere that eating, drinking, applying makeup, playing with the radio, and inserting CD and cassettes while driving cause more accidents than cell phone use.


22 posted on 12/14/2011 8:40:47 PM PST by chrisinoc
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To: Jonty30

Yeah, sometimes I’ll check email (or at least read the subject lines) at red lights too, though I try to avoid actual text entry until I’m off the road.


23 posted on 12/14/2011 8:42:07 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Texting and emailing while driving are stupid. I don’t believe the studies that say talking on a cellphone is as dangerous as drunk driving. This list says otherwise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year

This is a list of motor vehicle deaths in the United States by year. On average in 2009, 93 people were killed on the roadways of the U.S. each day.

The number of deaths – and deaths relative to the total population – have declined over the last two decades. From 1979 to 2005, the number of deaths per year decreased 14.97% while the number of deaths per capita decreased by 35.46%. Traffic fatalities in 2010 were the lowest in 62 years.


24 posted on 12/14/2011 8:42:33 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (The democratic party is the greatest cargo cult in history.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Good luck enforcing a cell phone ban on the american public. I can drive, talk on the phone and watch for cops. Nobody will obey a law like this.


25 posted on 12/14/2011 8:44:33 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Rain causes accidents....we need to outlaw rain.

Same goes for snow.

26 posted on 12/14/2011 8:46:40 PM PST by CAluvdubya
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To: Joann37

BS. Cites and states where texting and phone use is banned see no statistical improvement in accident prevention. More nanny statism.


27 posted on 12/14/2011 8:48:16 PM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I am glad the Obama Admin. is bringing this out. It will truly endear him to his moonbat base.


28 posted on 12/14/2011 8:51:46 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about they ban teen girls from saying “ohmagawd” and “awesome” more than 5000 times in a 3 minute time period while on a cellphone?


29 posted on 12/14/2011 8:58:56 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Nancy Pelosi - The #1 reason why we need a Constitutional amendment for Congressional drug testing.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If you are going to ban cells including Bluetooth hands free, you must logically ban talking to and listening to passengers conversation. Idiots!


30 posted on 12/14/2011 9:02:12 PM PST by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Only "real people", those who can afford chauffeurs, should be allowed to have any luxuries or communicate with anyone while driving. Pæons should be kept as miserable as possible.
31 posted on 12/14/2011 9:04:15 PM PST by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Of course the ban would not apply to LEA’s etc just like other laws like speeding do not apply too them. How about simply applying the laws on the books like reckless driving or failure to maintain control of vehicle. If you can talk and drive what is the problem? But No instead our Moron Authoratarian Overlords in DC think we need yet more laws.

I don't text when driving and I generally use hands free device for talking when driving. I do remember early one night I pulled over too text in a parking lot and a cop almost imediately pulled up too see what I was doing. You just can't win. Control Freaks run our government and Control Freaks wanting Nanny State Protection laws will vote for them. It's all for da children ya know.

32 posted on 12/14/2011 9:04:39 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Joann37
Something for the cell phone/texting junkies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0LCmStIw9E

33 posted on 12/14/2011 9:11:23 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: coloradan
I can’t find in my Constitution this particular enumerated power for the federal government to do this.

According to the article this is just a recommendation from an agency of the federal government to the states, so I think the First Amendment would cover it.

34 posted on 12/14/2011 9:18:33 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
including one in which a teen-ager sent or received 11 text messages in 11 minutes before an accident

So this calls for the typical solution of bureaucrats. Dumb down, drum down and tie down all of society to the lowest bar and common denominator set by the dumbest and most irresponsible 1% of the masses.

35 posted on 12/14/2011 9:18:50 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Joann37

“But you people here are more concerned with “your rights” than people’s safety?”

Well, how ‘bout we just declare automobiles illegal? Traffic deaths solved!

Seriously, though. What we’re seeing is progressive dumbing down of the citizenship to the point where we’re all going to be non-thinking wards of the government, incapable of making (and abiding by) our own choices.

Just for the record, to earn a private pilots certificate, you have to be able to fly an airplane while planning a new flight to another destination, and stay in communication with ATC concurrently.

The real solution here is better driver training, NOT making multitasking illegal for those capable of it.


36 posted on 12/14/2011 9:19:56 PM PST by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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To: Joann37
BS. Not one single accident is caused by texting or cell phone usage. Those accidents are caused by careless, irresponsible drivers.
37 posted on 12/14/2011 9:23:32 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Joann37
The statistics are that 28% of all accidents are caused by texting/cell phone usage.

I call BS. As Dennis Prager says, when a study reaches an absurd conclusion that contradicts common sense, don't believe it.

Do you really think accidents are up 28% (or however the math works out) since the advent of cell phones? Of course you don't. Nobody with a brain does, including whoever concocted the bogus study. So why do you parrot something so absurd that somebody smart enough to construct the sentences you did couldn't possibly believe?

38 posted on 12/14/2011 9:24:43 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


39 posted on 12/14/2011 9:25:43 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: paul51
the typical solution of bureaucrats. Dumb down, drum down and tie down all of society to the lowest bar and common denominator set by the dumbest and most irresponsible 1% of the masses.

Yes, it's rule #1 in the state control play book. It's why some type of helmet will be required to walk about in maybe 15-25 years. But in truth, it's really not funny.
40 posted on 12/14/2011 9:25:43 PM PST by Jay Santos CP ("Idiocracy"... It's no longer just a movie.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
a teen-ager sent or received 11 text messages in 11 minutes before an accident

Together with the mountains of data on teen driving accidents which existed long before cell phones or text messaging even existed, this is more of an argument for banning teen driving than an argument for banning cell phone use while driving.

And no one is going to ban teen driving. Cell phones, for whatever reason, aggravate other drivers more than the thousands of other reasons that can be blamed for poor driving.
41 posted on 12/14/2011 9:46:37 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Seems the phone company could just turn the texting off when the phone is roaming and that would be that.
42 posted on 12/14/2011 9:49:34 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Revolting cat!

Isn’t there something about establishing postal roads? Maybe “establish” means more than “build and maintain” In any case, you have no obligation to always drive on the right, e.g. on one-way roads. (Or if you’re President and you shut the whole thing down so you can drive to a barber and get your hair done, with no other traffic on the road for miles in every direction.)


43 posted on 12/14/2011 9:53:48 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
Courts have already ruled that phone service falls under the interstate commerce clause. You need a new one here. Do you recall the break up of maw bell. And/or the celling of the cellular phone spectrum and the tower zones. All happened under the commerce clause.
44 posted on 12/14/2011 9:55:25 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
That would not be the problem, using the phone while driving would automatically put you a fault, someone hits you in the rear while you are driving, they get killed you go to jail. Think about it.
45 posted on 12/14/2011 10:00:49 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: sthguard
Most drivers are quite capable of talking and driving at the same time, especially using headsets.

That's only because the rest of us have to watch out for you...you aren't even aware of the many times we dodge your lousey driving to avoid accidents you would have caused.

46 posted on 12/14/2011 10:07:46 PM PST by caww
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To: sthguard

The islamic communist puppet’s regime doesn’t want Americans communicating while they are in their cars. They don’t want us moving, and knowing, if they are doing anything against us while we are able to move, hide, gather, or transport information or arms to each other. Some have even said that they won’t even be able to be in their cars calling, even while stopped or parked with the engine turned off.


47 posted on 12/14/2011 10:08:14 PM PST by lephantom
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To: Joann37

>The statistics are that 28% of all accidents are caused by texting/cell phone usage.<

So why are automobile accidents down overall?

I have absolutely no problem with making texting while driving illegal. However, when these government nannystaters allow built-in cell phone use, but not bluetooth headsets, my bull$hit meter goes off big time.

So, why not put your money where your mouth is. No talking to your kid in the backseat and absolutely no conversations with your adult passengers while you drive. While we’re at it, you better not mess with that radio, either. No eating, no drinking and especially no smoking behind that wheel. We don’t want to do anything that might put the lives of others at risk.

Come to think of it, simply DRIVING might put the lives of others at risk. Hey, I think I see a new goal for the NTSB!


48 posted on 12/14/2011 10:09:57 PM PST by Darnright ("I don't trust liberals, I trust conservatives." - Lucius Annaeus Seneca)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I can drive, talk on the phone and watch for cops

What you aren't doing is being aware of the rest of us drivers dodging your sloppy driving so that the accidents you would have caused don't happen.

49 posted on 12/14/2011 10:11:38 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

I happen to be a very good driver. And you’re a jackass.


50 posted on 12/14/2011 10:41:03 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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