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Tea Partiers Reject Beck's Claim That Support of Gingrich Is Racial
Fox News ^ | 12/14/11 | Judson Berger

Posted on 12/15/2011 5:13:51 AM PST by Libloather

Tea Partiers Reject Beck's Claim That Support of Gingrich Is Racial
By Judson Berger
Published December 14, 2011 | FoxNews.com

Glenn Beck is catching heat from the Tea Party movement that he helped champion -- and helped champion him -- after suggesting Tea Partiers who support Newt Gingrich over President Obama would do so only because Gingrich is white.

The former Fox News host made the comments in an interview over the weekend on Fox Business Network. Beck, after calling Gingrich a "progressive" and the "only candidate" in the Republican presidential race he could not vote for, issued what he described as a "challenge" to the Tea Party base -- which in large part has flocked to the former speaker's candidacy.

"This man is a progressive," Beck said. "So if you've got a big government progressive ... in Obama -- one in Newt Gingrich, one in Obama -- ask yourself this, Tea Party. Is it about Obama's race?"

Judge Andrew Napolitano, host of the FBN show, questioned Beck on the argument.

"It must be about race," Beck responded. "I mean, what else is it? ... It's the policies that matter."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amnesty; andrewnapolitano; geraldorivera; gingrich; glennbeck; judgenapolitano; libertarians; newtgingrich; racial; randnesty; randsconcerntrolls; randsconverntrolls; teapartybeck
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Is this some kind of ratings stunt? Why would anyone listen to that crap?
1 posted on 12/15/2011 5:13:59 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Serious question: Is Romney paying Beck to say this stuff? Is there any other explanation?


2 posted on 12/15/2011 5:16:31 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Beck has gone around the bend on this one. Maybe he is trying to chum up with his excellency.


3 posted on 12/15/2011 5:17:49 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Is there any other explanation?

My own personal opinion is that Beck buys into the whole "The Mormon elders will rise up and save America when the Constitution is hanging by a thread" garbage.
4 posted on 12/15/2011 5:19:26 AM PST by DTxAg
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To: Libloather
WHOA! This is BS.

I watch GBTV and heard Glenn go over this, and this 'racist' comment is taken 180o out of context in this tripe passing as 'news'.

I don't know who this Judson Berger character is but he should go back to dumpster diving for his meals.

5 posted on 12/15/2011 5:21:49 AM PST by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: Libloather

It’s not racial, it’s anti romney.

Let’s see:

Romney = Masscare and father of obamacare.

Newt = Contract with America.

Who to choose, who to choose......


6 posted on 12/15/2011 5:21:56 AM PST by SunTzuWu
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To: NativeNewYorker

Beck has been on an “anti-Newt” rant for some time now. I can barely listen to his drivel anymore. What happened to him?


7 posted on 12/15/2011 5:22:49 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: NativeNewYorker

Beck has been on an “anti-Newt” rant for some time now. I can barely listen to his drivel anymore. What happened to him?


8 posted on 12/15/2011 5:23:07 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Mouton

Beck clearly forgot the wide support for Herman Cain - before the media did their dirty job.

Does anyone remember if Beck had kind words for Herman? I know Newt and the TEA participants showed great respect and admiration for the Cain candidacy.

This is an blatant effort by GB to be controversial to drum up ratings. Same with Savage.


9 posted on 12/15/2011 5:23:16 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Libloather

Mr. Beck, why don’t you ask yourself if it’s about religion?


10 posted on 12/15/2011 5:25:29 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: Condor51
WHOA! This is BS. I watch GBTV and heard Glenn go over this, and this 'racist' comment is taken 180o out of context in this tripe passing as 'news'.

I didnt hear it. Can you clarify? Its hard to believe he would make such an assertion.

11 posted on 12/15/2011 5:27:30 AM PST by Paradox (The rich SHOULD be paying more taxes, and they WOULD, if they could make more money.)
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To: Libloather

One of the stupidest things I’ve seen uttered.

Beck has opted for irrelevancy.

No recovery from demonstrating that you’re capable of being this insipid.


12 posted on 12/15/2011 5:27:50 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Libloather

No..character assasination of Herman Cain was RACIAL


13 posted on 12/15/2011 5:27:50 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: sodpoodle
Factually, Newt was the Keynote Speaker at the first large Tea Party Event. I believe it was one on the East Coast.

There are so many fragments of the original and spontaneous Tea Party that even that is tainted with some differing stated aims, but Newt was the Keynote for the beginnings.

I used to love the intelligence of Glenn Beck ... now he is "cultish". and is beyond the pale on too many things for me.
14 posted on 12/15/2011 5:30:19 AM PST by AKA Elena (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Libloather

I had no idea the current crop of FReepers were so gullible.

You people are an embarrassment.

Glenn Beck is as guilty as Hank Williams Jr.


15 posted on 12/15/2011 5:31:52 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: Libloather

This is incredible. Glenn Beck has given ammunition to those on the left who charge that the Tea Party is motivated by racism.


16 posted on 12/15/2011 5:31:58 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Condor51

“WHOA! This is BS.

I watch GBTV and heard Glenn go over this, and this ‘racist’ comment is taken 180o out of context in this tripe passing as ‘news’. “

I had to think that too, as Beck and Pat on his radio show always say things like this sarcastically. You can tell it is sarcastic by the way that say it.

Having said that, I am pretty damn tired of Glenn’s “anybody but Newt/if you vote for Newt, Obama will be reelected” rants.

I am not thrilled with what we have been offered in candidates but anyone, ANYONE, will be better than Obama!

Without putting too much thought in it(more thought to follow after the election), I actually think we need to get someone to beat Obama, and then IMMEDIATELY start building a 3rd party of some sort. Base it on the TEAParty concept.

Last thing I am tired of this morning is everyone saying a 3rd party can’t work. This cycle is too late, but anything can happen in 4 years and we CANNOT survive another 4 years with Obama and resemble anything like the USA I grew up in.


17 posted on 12/15/2011 5:32:58 AM PST by BookaT
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To: Libloather
The race card introduced. . .by Glenn Beck. Congrats Glenn! Not even Ann Coulter has gone there (yet, at least). Just the story w 'race card' attached is enough. And for certain, you know it.

Of course, if you did your homework; you would know; the differences between Obama as President and Newt are as 'black, from white'.

Oh, Glenn; did I say that? Speaking here; in a 'totally' non PC way - per 'freedom fashion' - but all 'Reason Capable' recognize that there is NO comparison between the freaking Alynsky/Maoist, i.e. our insufferable; psycho-narcissisist and dangerous excuse-for-President; and Newt; who believes that our Founding Fathers stand as 'guiding lights' in our landscape of American history.

(Thought, you did like history Glenn; apparently, not as much as many of us imagined. . .)

18 posted on 12/15/2011 5:34:05 AM PST by cricket (/get the 'Occupier' out of our White House!/ and Newt 'in'. . .and it is NOT just the economy!)
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To: Libloather

:: Tea Partiers who support Newt Gingrich over President Obama would do so only because Gingrich is white. ::

Seems that Glen Beck is on his water skis and headed for that ski-ramp. Is the shark’s name Mittens?


19 posted on 12/15/2011 5:36:12 AM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Libloather

When was the tea party vote, I missed it????


20 posted on 12/15/2011 5:39:33 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Newt, Willard, Perry and his fellow supporters)
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To: Paradox

In a nutshell, Beck has demonstrated Gingrich’s progressivism beyond dispute.

He therefore quite properly asks tea partiers how they can support Newt and disdain Obama.


21 posted on 12/15/2011 5:40:24 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: Lady Lucky

“Mr. Beck, why don’t you ask yourself if it’s about religion?”

Surely, beck wouldn’t play the “religion card”. /s


22 posted on 12/15/2011 5:47:49 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: AKA Elena

It would appear that Newt is the only politician on the planet who is not allowed to have made friends, made enemies, been unfaithful, raised two wonderful daughters, changed churches, spoken up, stayed silent, listened, looked, studied, criticized, praised, asked questions, given answers, caused confusion, solved problems, started debates, ended stalemate, shut down the government, reduced taxes, reduced spending, won election, resigned from office, written books, read books, recommended books, learned stuff, taught stuff, raised funds, spent his own money, admired others, disapproved of others, been funny, been serious, been argumentative, been conciliatory and God forbid - been human.


23 posted on 12/15/2011 5:47:49 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Libloather
BS like this is why Beck is off Fox and on some obscure network nobody watches.
24 posted on 12/15/2011 5:48:28 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Libloather
Beck's Claim That Support of Gingrich Is Racial

Moonbat, whackjob, loonytoon needs to go back on his meds.

25 posted on 12/15/2011 5:48:28 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: papertyger; Libloather
A couple of points, folks:

In this event, some people are simply repeating what they have heard second- or third-hand like a giant game of "Telephone", so that by the time they repeat it, they have no idea what was originally said or intended.

I heard what Glenn Beck said with my own ears the moment he said it, and also in context.

He absolutely did not intend to imply racial animus to the Tea Party. Instead, he was making a point about both Obama and Gingrich being Progressives, and daring people to identify any difference between them other than race.

It was an inelegantly-made argument and also, in my opinion, a mistaken one. But it was absolutely not meant as an indictment of the Tea Party on racial grounds.

Beck is wrong in my opinion, because "Progressivism" is not something to which Obama and Gingrich are equally attached. Further, his failure to differentiate between people who sometimes espouse Progressive ideas (Gingrich), those who do it frequently (Romney), and those who wish to impose it imperiously as doctrine (Obama) is sometimes causing him to ignore the reality of electoral politics and also to make poorly-considered statements like the one he made about the Tea Party.

26 posted on 12/15/2011 5:50:15 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Libloather

Yes it’s a publicity stunt by this desperate man who is no longer relevant.
He made a bad career move by leaving Fox and moving from NYC .
His radio show ratings must be dying.
His comments about supporting the 9-11 truther / blame America for 9-11/
Israel hating / Ear mark king of Congress Ron “code pink “ Paul
Show that Beck is done.


27 posted on 12/15/2011 5:50:23 AM PST by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: Bushbacker1

Beck has gone to the dark side.


28 posted on 12/15/2011 5:50:59 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: cricket
...and Newt; who believes that our Founding Fathers stand as 'guiding lights' in our landscape of American history

Yet he's repeatedly credited FDR,Wilson, and Teddy Roosevelt as the greatest Presidents of the Twentieth Century.

So which group is he lying about?

One can not "like" both groups and be philosophically consistent.

29 posted on 12/15/2011 5:51:52 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: sodpoodle
"It would appear that Newt is the only politician on the planet who is not allowed to have made friends, made enemies, been unfaithful, raised two wonderful daughters, changed churches, spoken up, stayed silent, listened, looked, studied, criticized, praised, asked questions, given answers, caused confusion, solved problems, started debates, ended stalemate, shut down the government, reduced taxes, reduced spending, won election, resigned from office, written books, read books, recommended books, learned stuff, taught stuff, raised funds, spent his own money, admired others, disapproved of others, been funny, been serious, been argumentative, been conciliatory and God forbid - been human."

Oddly enough, some of the same things Beck has done over his lifetime.
30 posted on 12/15/2011 5:52:08 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: Libloather

I quit listening to GB a while back for this reason. He puts himself as the only TRUE conservative out there. I am surprised he hasn’t been on with Alex Jones yet. He sees things no one else sees (and will sell you survival seeds too). His head has become inflated since he now has his “restoring” this or that rallies, addressed Israeli politicians. He is a joke at this point. Newt may not be Reagan and short of reanimation we won’t get another Reagan he is light years better than Obama. Glenn, shut up.


31 posted on 12/15/2011 5:52:39 AM PST by The_Freemason
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To: Libloather

Beck reminds me of the reporter for American Spectator that wrote the negative stories on clintoon in the 90s and subsequently became an ardent liberal.


32 posted on 12/15/2011 5:56:36 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: DTxAg

D’oh! It’s a fellow-Mormon thing. This’ll really help them beat that “cult” accusation.


33 posted on 12/15/2011 6:02:08 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: VanDeKoik

***Oddly enough, some of the same things Beck has done over his lifetime.***

But Beck has never faced an electorate - never been in the arena. A radio/TV gig is not equivalent to passing or preventing legislation.

Beck is an entertainer/agitator referenced in the Constitution as ‘free speech. It’s the Newt’s of the world who strive to protect it.


34 posted on 12/15/2011 6:02:20 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Condor51
I watch GBTV and heard Glenn go over this, and this ‘racist’ comment is taken 180o out of context in this tripe passing as ‘news’.

DITTO! I watch GBTV and it was clearly a joke or a bit of sarcasm. A jab really at the liberal media who call the TEA Party racist because now its white against black instead of Cain vs Obama like it was just a few weeks ago.

As for Becks hatred for all things progressive even if it is from the Right, I don't see a problem with that. We are still in the primary and he wants the most conservative candidate to rise to the top. We all do. Becks frustration with the TEA Party is they seem be suffering a case amnesia not remembering the reasons they did not like Newt a few months ago when he was in the single digits.

35 posted on 12/15/2011 6:06:06 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: sodpoodle
It’s the Newt’s of the world who strive to protect it.

I feel safe now.

36 posted on 12/15/2011 6:12:22 AM PST by Stentor ("All cults of personality start out as high drama and end up as low comedy.")
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To: Libloather

Keep in mind that Sarah Palin has been touring with Beck as well. I would like to hear her comments on this. Who is her guy? Mitten’s?


37 posted on 12/15/2011 6:14:00 AM PST by mmanager
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To: Stentor

You have a talk show?


38 posted on 12/15/2011 6:16:15 AM PST by sodpoodle ( Gingrich - flying solo - without congressional baggage!!!)
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To: Beagle8U

http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-12/entertainment/30155578_1_glenn-beck-fox-news-current-tv


39 posted on 12/15/2011 6:21:55 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: netmilsmom

And your point is?


40 posted on 12/15/2011 6:27:04 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

You said “an obscure network no one watches”.

That reference says that you may be mistaken.


41 posted on 12/15/2011 6:30:05 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: sodpoodle
You have a talk show?

What's it to you? I can't get that vision of two political slags sitting on a couch spouting lies out of my head. It's my right to find support for a political whore like Gingrich something I can't do. Anybody who wants to support Franklin Raines lawn jockey has a right to do so.

42 posted on 12/15/2011 6:36:08 AM PST by Stentor ("All cults of personality start out as high drama and end up as low comedy.")
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To: netmilsmom
230k likely not all watching at once, is pretty damn obscure when that is the total possible viewing audience.
43 posted on 12/15/2011 6:37:09 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: sodpoodle

“Those comments can only be described as nutty,” Phillips wrote on the Tea Party Nation site. “Some Tea Party members, such as myself, like Newt Gingrich. ... Calling us racists because we prefer Gingrich, who despite his flaws, loves America and wants the best for America, is absolutely nuts.

The above certainly explains my feeling on the subject.

“This is an blatant effort by GB to be controversial to drum up ratings. Same with Savage”.

I’m not sure I can speak for Beck, but he surely lost me on this one, and racial, not a chance.


44 posted on 12/15/2011 6:53:19 AM PST by wita
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To: papertyger

Anyone attempting to make the case that Newt Gingrich has anything in common with Barack Insane Obama is just nuts. Throwing around the progressive label to do it is just more nutz. Given a choice, and choosing Barack Insane Obama over Mr Gingrich, could be worthy of the label “VILLAGE IDIOT”. JMHO.


45 posted on 12/15/2011 7:01:47 AM PST by wita
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To: sodpoodle

I think this is being blown way out of proportion. Beck loves to speak in hyperbole. His comments about this are not serious; his point is that Gingrich is a progressive and that TP people who support Gingrich are just not examining Gingrich’s views properly.


46 posted on 12/15/2011 7:02:30 AM PST by Bigg Red (In this Advent season: Prepare ye the way of the Lord.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
Seems that Glen Beck is on his water skis and headed for that ski-ramp. Is the shark’s name Mittens?

Beck, Foxnews, pubbie establishment are all beating down Newt and pushing Mittens...BIG TIME! For my money, I'd rather have Perry, but Newt will do. Anybody but Romney!(Bowbama lite...)

47 posted on 12/15/2011 7:07:06 AM PST by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: All

Personally, I don’t care if voters choose him because he is white.
Until someone starts calling black folks on their mindless, race-based voting habits, I don’t care.


48 posted on 12/15/2011 7:07:28 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: andy58-in-nh
He absolutely did not intend to imply racial animus to the Tea Party.

It certainly seems that way to me. I'm not sure how you can spin the following to mean anything other than that:

Ask yourself this Tea Party, is it about Obama's race? Because that what it appears to be to me. If you're against him, but you're for this guy, it must be about race"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOkaLfJyqyw&feature=player_embedded


49 posted on 12/15/2011 7:09:50 AM PST by csense
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To: Beagle8U

>>230k likely not all watching at once<<

You’re just assuming that. This is a 24 hour on demand network.

Seriously, I think that Glenn is getting a bit off, but to disregard the power he has is a mistake. We just got his radio show back in Detroit. I’m sure that if he goes way off, people will begin turning away, but it’s not now.


50 posted on 12/15/2011 7:22:07 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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