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To: allmendream

Saying the government is engaged in propaganda is either right or wrong. It is NOT “slamming America”. So you never criticize the government. You are about the only American that cowed. Opposing aid to foreign countries is not antisemitic. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitic.


13 posted on 12/15/2011 7:30:02 AM PST by all the best (`~!)
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To: all the best; allmendream

Ah yes, the typical Paulite “explain it away” technique.
Just like when Paul said that we got 9/11 because of our mideast policies, Pauls sycophant acolytes said he merely ‘miss-spoke’.
And when he said that the Bush administration was gleeful over 9/11, they tried variously to claim that wasn’t what he said, meant, etc etc.
Then they used an Obama minion wording to explain the Paultardian statement, “never let a crisis go to waste” thus forgetting just who said it and who uses bloody shirts for rabble rousing. [that would be the left for your info]

And now we have “slamming America is not slamming America”.
Doublespeak.
Every time Ron Paul says something stupid, his minions tie themselves into knots trying to explain it or apoligize for it.

They also cannot explain his support for homosexuals.


26 posted on 12/15/2011 8:27:34 AM PST by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: all the best
No, propaganda is a word with a high ‘emotionality index’ - like calling the 0bama administration a “regime”.

Being critical of American foreign or domestic policy is one thing - saying we were ‘gleeful’ after 9-11 eager to start a war against Iraq and Afghanistan- saying our MidEast policies brought about 9-11 - saying that our CORRECT assessment of Iran's actions in pursuit of nuclear weapons is “propaganda”; is ALL “slamming America” - not being critical or having legitimate criticisms - but a direct attack on our motivations and character as a nation.

Ron Paul does a lot more than just oppose foreign aid and criticize Israel - he gives aid and comfort - and receives likewise - from the most virulent antisemites.

And he is not just a hateful loon, like his followers, he is materially incorrect about the “evidence” in regards to Iran and nuclear weapons.

Does this idiot actually think those uranium centrifuges were for “peaceful” nuclear power?

29 posted on 12/15/2011 9:01:06 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: all the best; Allegra; lormand; shibumi; Nachum; SJackson; NObama; 2ndDivisionVet
Opposing foreign aid to Israel or any other (hopefully all other) country/ies is common sense and not anti-semitism. Criticising Israel is not anti-semitism. Fair enough.

Bear in mind, as even the paleosurrenderman concedes, that the United States pushing a phony "peace process" on Israel as a price of foreign aid is NOT common sense. Israel should reclaim its independence and whack Iran as necessary. Ditto the Palestinian anything, Hamas, Al Qaeda, and every other gang of Islamofascist thugs. If the United States wants a piece of that action, that is not a bad idea either.

Pushing, as El Run Paulie does constantly, for a situation in which Iran WILL have nuclear weapons, WILL NOT relent on its stated intention to wipe Israel off the map (and not with washcloths but with nukes), and can be believed by any rational person, will at least stand as anti-semitism until any even more legitimate example comes along. El Run is not concerned in the least over the imminent threat faced by the Israeli people who have long been American allies. When Israel is nuked by Paulie's Iranian pals, "OOOOOPS!" just won't suffice as a response. Nuking Iran in retaliation, while emotionally somewhat satisfying, won't really suffice either. Absolutely preventing Ahmadinejad and the mullahs from nuking Israel is a far more desirable response than letting Iran nuke Israel or our wiping Iran off the face of the earth in retaliation.

One more item: Drilling here, drilling now, using fracking as necessary everywhere that oil may be found in the US, taking control by Navy if necessary of the oil resources of the Gulf of Mexico and the waters off Cuba, crushing Obozo, reversing his policies that try to have Americans freeze in the dark while increasingly impoverished by EPA thwarting of drilling, will effective impose the best of sanctions against Iran and every Islamofascist oil satrapy in existence. Bye, bye OPEC!!! $1.00/gallon gasoline is the most eloquent response. Let 'em eat oil soaked sand in Iran.

One final item: When actual conservatives (which leaves out Ron Paul who is just a modern version of cowardly crackpot Neville Chamberlain) criticize the regime in Washington or any other manifestation of tyranny in America, that is one thing. When anti-American serial crackpots like Paulie continually beat their gums trying to eliminate our nation's defenses in favor of letters of marque and reprisal (and maybe blunderbusses and rowboats) and about how our enemies are only being reasonable in being our enemies, that is a quite different thing. Especially in time of war (which does not require magic words or a fill-in-the-blanks form passed as a Congressional Declaration of War) when Congressional resolutions approving and funding wars will certainly suffice whatever Code Pink or paleoPaulie may imagine.

34 posted on 12/15/2011 12:30:38 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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