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Hey, they still let us drive
The New York Post ^ | December 16, 2011 | Frank J. Fleming

Posted on 12/16/2011 11:28:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The National Transportation Safety Board wants a complete ban on cellphone use while driving, even on hands-free calls. Some will protest this as yet another government encroachment on freedom, but we should think twice before rocking the boat here.

After all, have you considered how lucky we are that the government lets us drive cars at all?

Imagine if cars hadn’t been around for a century, but instead were just invented today. Is there any way they’d be approved for individual use? It’s an era of bans on incandescent bulbs; if you suggested putting millions of internal-combustion engines out there, you’d get looks like you were Hitler proposing the Final Solution.

Even aside from pollution, the government wouldn’t allow the risks to safety.

“So you’re proposing that people speed around in tons of metal? You must mean only really smart, well-trained people?”

“No. Everyone. Even stupid people.”

“Won’t millions be killed?”

“Oh, no. Not that many. Just a little more than 40,000 a year.”

“And injuries?”

“Oh . . . millions.”

There’s no way that would get approved today.

Driving is basically a grandfathered freedom from back when people cared less about pollution and danger and valued progress and liberty over safety. They had different equations related to human life then: We could lose 10,000 men in a single battle in a war and call it a victory....

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: automobiles; cellphones; formom; government; lping
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right on! And what’s with these tyrannical drunk driving laws too? And despotic school zones? I mean, if some idiot is driving home from the bar at 7:00 in the morning and some kid’s trying to get across the street but walks in front of the drunk’s SUV and gets splattered all over the road, just prosecute the drunk for negligent homicide. Don’t restrict MY freedom just because most of my fellow citizens can’t handle theirs!

/sarc some wouldn’t even notice


21 posted on 12/17/2011 5:15:47 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: re_nortex
Another thread on the cell phone ban here where the FReeper Nanny-state Contingent are in full bloom.

Whatever happened to the notion of personal responsibility?

22 posted on 12/17/2011 5:29:18 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr
Whatever happened to the notion of personal responsibility?

I wish I knew!

If you ever find it again - widespread among the American populace - I'll be happy to join you in opposing the cell-phone ban.

Until then, I have to take my stand against the personally-IRresponsible. Not because I want to save them from themselves, but because all I want is to get from point A to point B without getting killed.
23 posted on 12/17/2011 5:44:29 AM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear NTSB - STFU and MYOB


24 posted on 12/17/2011 5:47:39 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Go now. Run along and tell your Xerxes that he faces Free Men here...not slaves.")
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To: re_nortex

“A surprising number of FReepers were on board for an FCC mandate controlling the volume of commercials. As I recall, you’re a ham. The power of the FCC should be limited to the very narrow area of ensuring that harmful interference doesn’t occur between operators. Period. Dictating content in any way is far beyond the scope of why the commission exists.”

Cable around here is _effectively_ a monopoly. In return for having a monopoly (gas, electric, water, and so on) companies have for more than a century given up some of their freedoms. I might agree that this is not the FCC’s job, the local and state authorities should be empowered to do this, assuming that they haven’t been paid off, which is, of course, highly unlikely.

I find it infuriating to be blasted out of a chair at night by loud commercials. You may say “get rid of cable” but I don’t have any other choice for a similar product - and no, satellite, over the air, and the Internet are not “similar” here.


25 posted on 12/17/2011 6:00:28 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not a Federal issue or right. However, if a state wants to outlaw cell phone use and driving - heck yes!

Put away the damn phone and drive!


26 posted on 12/17/2011 6:00:41 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Soon to be a man without a country.)
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To: LearsFool

May your chains rest lightly...


27 posted on 12/17/2011 6:02:18 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: PalmettoMason

“Maybe I am a conspiracy nutjob, maybe not.”...

This is an interesting theory, but the problem is, that most of the information required isn’t on your phone anyway, it’s “safely” in databases at the provider’s facilities.


28 posted on 12/17/2011 6:03:52 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: USMCWife6869
Am I going to get pulled over simply because I’m speaking at all? Besides, no one even bothers to enforce most of the traffic laws already in existence.

My car has the same. Next, they will not allow us to speak to each other in the car, as well as holler at the kids in the backseat. The radios will go next, because Limbaugh, Beck, and Hannity are a distraction. They haven't addressed women (or men) putting on make-up) or reading, eating, and everything else people have done behind the wheel the past dozen decades.

29 posted on 12/17/2011 6:04:18 AM PST by Jaidyn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve been thinking EXACTLY the same thing for years — if cars were invented today, there is NO WAY that our benevolent overseers would allow citizens to own and operate one. Never!

Aspirin would be prescription-only, public access to electricity would NEVER be allowed, aircraft would belong strictly to the military, and firearms ... HA!

This is the Nanny State in action, folks. It’s getting worse by the day and still we take no action.


30 posted on 12/17/2011 6:04:51 AM PST by DNME (A monarch's neck should always have a noose around it. It keeps him upright. - Robert Heinlein)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That idea has been abandoned as of yesterday. I read that they woke up and realized it would be unenforceable and would tick off too many people.


31 posted on 12/17/2011 6:06:12 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When driving with passengers, should it be illegal to talk with them? Will radios be banned from cars?


32 posted on 12/17/2011 6:06:52 AM PST by HotKat (Politicians are like diapers; they need to be changed often and for the same reason. Mark Twain)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If electricity had been discovered today it wouldn't be allowed in homes because it would be deemed too "dangerous"

Becasue after all, we as a people are just too damned stupid to figure out what is dangerous and what is not.

33 posted on 12/17/2011 6:18:03 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: LearsFool
I ... I ..!
...I'll ...
I ... Not because I want .. but because all I want is...

All about you.

34 posted on 12/17/2011 6:21:06 AM PST by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish the government would do something about the di-hydrogen monoxide pollution. Where I am you can see it all the time.


35 posted on 12/17/2011 6:23:45 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Abandoned eh? Good because I wasn’t going to do it anyway. I was planning on talking on my phone while driving just like I always do.


36 posted on 12/17/2011 6:28:42 AM PST by Ditter
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To: central_va

Seattle is often deluged by it.


37 posted on 12/17/2011 6:54:13 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Ditter

Yes me too. LOL!!!


38 posted on 12/17/2011 7:52:30 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
This is an interesting theory, but the problem is, that most of the information required isn’t on your phone anyway, it’s “safely” in databases at the provider’s facilities.

They can still get your contacts list, call history, and browsing history (from your smartphone) right from the device, according to the articles I read a while back.

39 posted on 12/17/2011 8:41:33 AM PST by PalmettoMason ("The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Anybody seen talking in a car alone could be pulled over. Can’t ask ON*Star about locations. Imagine paying $100,000 for a car and not being able to use the built in phone.

Why do I think this law won’t apply to government folks or celebrities?


40 posted on 12/17/2011 9:00:36 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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