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Keystone climbdown leaves Obama supporters scratching their heads (Hussein's Christmas vacation)
The Hill ^ | 12/17/11 | Amie Parnes

Posted on 12/17/2011 6:41:55 PM PST by Libloather

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White House aides argue they didn’t lose anything in the deal.

The current crop of spinners really do suck.

1 posted on 12/17/2011 6:42:06 PM PST by Libloather
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The secret is that no matter what is in the bill Keystone is not happening until Obama is out of office.


2 posted on 12/17/2011 6:48:24 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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To: Libloather
This is good to me on two points. I support Keystone and like everyone else, I am aware that a surtax on millionaires is nothing more than class warfare. That's point #1.

Point #2 is; I enjoy Obama showing everyone what an ineffectual leader he is.

3 posted on 12/17/2011 6:56:52 PM PST by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Secret? LOL!


4 posted on 12/17/2011 7:05:59 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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“At the end of the day, what this tells me is that they’re more pragmatic than ideological.”

Spin it as they may once again the weakness of this President is on display. Another campaign gimmick taken away, Obama can no longer straddle the fence to appease both the unions and the enviros...he will be forced to choose a side and alienate the other.

5 posted on 12/17/2011 7:06:26 PM PST by JrsyJack (a healthy dose of buckshot will probably get you the last word in any argument.)
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I’m trying to figure out who is the biggest loser. Barry or his enviroloony donors. Americans are definitely the winners.


6 posted on 12/17/2011 7:13:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop BIG Government Greed Now!!!!)
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all the boy has agreed to is to decide whether he will OK it or not... and he prolly won't
7 posted on 12/17/2011 7:13:36 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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You can thank Newt for the cave on Keystone. He completely slayed Obama and his position to hold up a middle class tax cut to please a few environmentalists in SF in front of 7 million viewers Thursday night.


8 posted on 12/17/2011 7:14:23 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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‘zackly.


9 posted on 12/17/2011 7:16:52 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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Thank Newt ? I thought the O team spinners were laughable . Your point reaches into whirling dervish land. The Congress and the Senate has been fighting this for months. If you think Obama cares a wit what Newt says on a cable debate , well fill in the blank.
10 posted on 12/17/2011 7:18:48 PM PST by fantom (,)
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“He was the most detached person from this process of any of the major players,” the aide said.

Send this jug eared Muslim space cadet back to Hawaii....permanently

When Paul Theroux met Barack Obama in a Hawaiian hamburger joint   (link)
honoluluweekly. ^ | 11-5-2008 | Ragnar Carlson

Posted on Friday, November 14, 2008 8:11:32 AM by dennisw

I was asking because I wonder whether you’ve been in the same room as Obama, and how you’d compare them in terms of the impression they make?

I was at Kua ‘Aina in Hale’iwa two years ago–

You met Obama at Kua ‘Aina?

He was squiritng ketchup onto seven hamburgers. There he was with a tray, at the ketchup pump. There were maybe 35 people in Kua ‘Aina, and not a single person recognized him. I was with Pico Iyer. I said I was going over to meet him. Iyer said not to do it, but I said, “I have to.” And he said, “I love your books about Southeast Asia.” Really, he is 10 times more charismatic than Clinton. Then he told Iyer, “I love your book on Cuba.” We had a great talk. He made a tremendous impression. In my lifetime, he’s the most impressive candidate for president that I’ve sene. More than Kennedy. JFK always seemed privileged, entitled.

What did you think of his book?

I thought it was tremendous. First of all, he actually wrote it himself. I’ve read McCain’s books…he tells a great story, but it’s not his prose style. He uses a ghostwriter. Obama can write. And he’s truthful, he talks about his flaws, about the negatives and the difficulties and the struggles. Drugs, race, all of that unpleasant stuff. Anyway, I think Obama will be the end of racial politics.

Seriously?

He could be. Because he’s the bridge. It was B.S. that Clinton was the first black president. But this could be the beginning of the end. In some people’s minds, he’ll never be. But I think he’s a bridge. He’s the most unlikely candidate for president–

Since Lincoln, maybe?

Yeah, he reminds me of Lincoln. The way he looks and talks and all of it, very Lincolnesque. And also, it’s the end of Karl Rove politics. The end of Guantanamo Bay. The end of torture. I believe that in my heart.

 


11 posted on 12/17/2011 7:19:44 PM PST by dennisw (A nation of sheep breeds a government of Democrat wolves!)
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And they did lose nothing. There can be no decision on Keystone for sixty days. After that time owebama is restricted to nothing regarding K.


12 posted on 12/17/2011 7:39:39 PM PST by Rannug ("God has given it to me, let him who touches it beware.")
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Obviously, but it’s a step in the right direction and it gives Republicans credibility for trying to move it forward, which is bound to be noted by the thousands seeking work.

With AGW crashing around their ears, environmentalist credibility has to be low among the independents, most of whom are already as environmentally-friendly as can afford to be anyhow and have no time for fanatics.

Furthermore quite a few more people can read headlines and can see that the situation in the Middle East has gotten so screwy that nobody can even guess what will happen next year. Those people also know we still import too much oil from the Mideast, and that working towards energy security can never be a bad thing.


13 posted on 12/17/2011 7:44:14 PM PST by Ronin (If we were serious about using the death penalty as a deterrent, we would bring back public hangings)
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To: Libloather

This puts Keystone right in the middle of the Presidential debates.

Merry Christmas


14 posted on 12/17/2011 7:51:06 PM PST by bray (The Tea Party Occupies their Mind)
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Where Republicans are missing the boat on this is in lambasting the Democrats over why the hell the State Department is the final approval authority over an oil pipeline.


15 posted on 12/17/2011 8:05:48 PM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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NEVERINTERRUPT
16 posted on 12/17/2011 8:11:46 PM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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tell me more about this STATE DEPT approval of this...or point me to a source please....thanks.....I’m going searching too...


17 posted on 12/17/2011 8:15:05 PM PST by goodnesswins (Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas)
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The GOP congress gave them another trillion in wasteful spending—no wonder they’re happy.


18 posted on 12/17/2011 8:15:30 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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Found info...

"The State Department has authority over the project because it crosses a U.S. border, although the U.S. official discussing the possibility of rerouting the pipeline requested anonymity because no decision has been reached."

19 posted on 12/17/2011 8:17:51 PM PST by goodnesswins (Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas Merry Christmas)
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With AGW crashing around their ears, environmentalist credibility has to be low among the independents, most of whom are already as environmentally-friendly as can afford to be anyhow and have no time for fanatics.

There will be some lame a$$ excuse by the administration as to why the pipeline can't be started now and the press will applaud Obama for making the courageous decision. Will Canada wait for the next Republican president? I doubt it.

20 posted on 12/17/2011 9:52:32 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Either Obama can beat any GOP candidate or no GOP candidate.)
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