Posted on 12/20/2011 3:52:31 PM PST by rabscuttle385
Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said the failure of the House to approve the bipartisan Senate bill to extend the payroll-tax cut is “harming the Republican Party.”
Speaking Tuesday on CNN’s “Situation Room,” McCain said that while it’s inevitable that the tax cut will ultimately be extended, the infighting reflects poorly on Republicans and Congress as a whole.
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McCain was one of 89 senators who overwhelmingly voted to extend the payroll-tax cut through February to give the sides more time to come to an agreement on how to pay for it. House Republicans say that debate should happen now.
Some GOP senators — a number of whom are up for re-election next year — have blasted House Republican leaders for not getting rank-and-file members to back the Senate bill.
“It angers me that House Republicans would rather continue playing politics than find solutions,” centrist Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) said in a news release. “Their actions will hurt American families and be detrimental to our fragile economy. We are Americans first; now is not the time for drawing lines in the sand.”
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
I'm think that the time of the Federal Government has come and gone.
It's more of a hinderance than a help.
The only exception is protecting the nation from foreign attack.
/johnny
The House appointed it’s conferees.
There’s nothing more they need to, or can, do until the Senators come back from vacation to a conference.
Heck, the conference can probably be done by phone and
then a few members in each chamber will show up and pass whatever they come up with by voice vote.
There’s no problem doing this.
SSDD.
They are ROMNEY-Republicans.
The are anti-conservative. anti-Tea Party.
and pro-IAG and pro-Sharia.
Oh, how I hate agreeing with mccain. But I don’t understand why extending it for two months now then extending it for a year when the two months are up is a bad thing. Is it worth fighting for at Christmas? The republicans just can’t figure out where to pick their battles. Could it be the elites want to help obama win? The elites got obama elected in the first place.
Maybe so but Fox News seems to think this is a bad idea. They said if the President stays in Washington than the Congress should too. I am sure they could EASILY stay another four days.
We got em right where we want em.
the GOP did their job. Passed a 1 yr. extension.
IF they don’t like it, then negotiate.
I personally don’t like raiding the Soc. Security FICA to
pay for Obama going around the country touting his “MIDDLE CLASS”
tax cut like FRIGGIN santa claus —
IT”S MY FREAKIN SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK IN THE FUTURE THAT HE IS
RAPING FROM ME and telling me i have to like the rape
when if you make =>$100,000 you get $2,000,
if you make $50,000 you get $1000
IT’S REGRESSIVE actually.
BUt hey Obama flunked math, logic and geometry in high school.
You are an embarrassment. What is wrong with people in Arizona? Heat get to them?
My wife works at a payroll processing company and she's LIVID over the idea of screwing up the Soc Sec tax rates in the first quarter.
Since McCain is TOO STUPID to understand the bureaucratic mess he want so create to hell with him.
Old fool. Give in to the Dems. Give in to a moronic idea because you think your crap doesn't smell.
I hope you get coal for Christmas John.
http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx
“Last Floor Action:
6:41:24 P.M. - The House adjourned pursuant to a previous special order. The next meeting is scheduled for 10:00 a.m. on December 21, 2011. “
I assume most went home to wait on the lordly Senators’ pleasure. Of course the media will make it appear to be anything except what it is...
You're an idiot if you trust the Feds with your money.
I don't have any earthly idea how you got that from my post. If I had my druthers I'd abolish Social Security tomorrow.
I was pointing out that the House was losing the PR war on the issue and are now in a no win situation. An agreement was obviously reached between Boehner/McConnell and Reid that included the 2 month payroll tax cut extension and the Keystone language. This was regarded as a GOP win until the House Republicans balked. McConnell delivered his votes in the Senate but Boehner couldn't in the House. Now it is House Republicans against everyone - to include House Democrats, Senate Republicans, Senate Democrats and Obama. House Republicans are out on a ledge and they will end up having to cave because if they don't the payroll tax cuts expire and all working American's taxes go up - and that would be a public relations disaster. Because the 2 month deal was already passed in the Senate with most Republicans agreeing, the Democrats have perfect cover and can simply walk away laughing at House Republicans because they know they will have to give in.
So while I don't like McCain at all, on the politics he is quite correct on this issue. On the merits the House Republicans are correct, but the fight has been so badly bungled already that we will likely have to cave, lick our wounds and come back in 2 months with hopefully everyone on the same page. Most importantly, Boehner needs to stop making deals he doesn't have the votes for.
Boehner apparently believed getting Keystone in the deal and making sure the payroll tax cuts weren't "paid for" by millionaire tax increases was delivering a victory to the Tea Party. He obviously took that deal to McConnell, got an agreement with Reid, and then discovered his sweeteners weren't enough for the Tea Party. The problem here seems to be that either Boehner is making deals he doesn't have the votes for, or the Tea Party caucus is telling Boehner to make deals and then getting pressured by their constituents and backing out of them. One of the two things is happening, probably some combination of the two.
But the next extension- in two months- will have to be paid for by new taxes. And the Tea Prty will be put in the position of saying ‘no’ then. Which won’t hold.
It’s the Senate- 3 Rs up for reelection this year blasted the House for turning down the two-month bill, only 9(IIRC) R Senators voted against it. Beside the RINO-Tea Party antipathy there’s institutional advantage to the Senate in manipulating Boehner’s caucus.
Young people making half a living wage still get tagged for FICA. It is a grossly regressive tax.
They do not expect to ever get any benefits from SS.
Think of how they look at it ~ namely, that the less they have to pay in FICa the better!
I am only arguing the politics of the thing. On the merits, House Republicans are quite correct. The problem is, we needed to have a unified front and we don't. Senate Republicans voted for this thing and have either left town or want to. This leaves House Republicans against..well..pretty much everyone. They are going to end up having to cave because the politics of it are working too strongly against them.
Folks know the People's House is looking out for their interests ~ which are, during the Great Obama Recession, their net income.
Obama and the Democrats will have to back down.
explain please...
“we needed to have a unified front and we don’t. Senate Republicans voted for this thing “
We can’t force the Senate to work with us, Boehner we can.
I think if the House fights for a 12 month extension instead of two they’ll win. The media will do it’s best to keep the issue from being framed that way. But whatever PR price we pay now will be less than we’d pay in two months IMO.
As long as we get the the 12 months.
I wouldn't assign sole blame to the House. The Senate hasn't passed a budget in over two year. They passed their bill and left town without any thought of a conference committee. Essentially, it was a take it or leave proposition with the House holding the bag. Why should the House defer to the Senate? There are many differences between the two bills. It is not just about two months versus a year. McCain, Lugar, and Brown are not exactly conservatives.
John McLame.
Arizona, I love you but you really let us down in 2010.
But...it gets worse:
The Republicans' Holiday Gift To President Obama
Summary: A proposal by House Republicans to roll back the maximum duration of unemployment benefits from 99 weeks to 59 passed the House by 234 to 193. If such a plan also passes the Senate, that would be politically ideal for President Obama.
Reducing the amount of time people can collect unemployment benefits would clearly cut the unemployment rate below 8 percent by election time, greatly improving the President’s chances for reelection. Yet the President could nevertheless pretend not to appreciate this generous gift and instead castigate Republicans for being as cheap as Scrooge and as mean as the Grinch. From Obama’s point of view, that’s an ideal combination.
Brilliant, huh? As Mark Levin always reminds us - John Boehner is simply not up to the job of Speaker.
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