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Obamaland: American Mules Must Eat Certified Weed-Free Hay
Town Hall ^ | Marita Noon

Posted on 12/24/2011 7:14:40 AM PST by ibytoohi

Mining has played an important role in the development of the western United States—providing jobs and revenues. It should be doing the same now. In Nevada’s mining towns, the unemployment rate is among the lowest in the country: 5-7%—according to Tim Crowley President of the Nevada Mining Association who says there are hundreds of mining jobs available in Nevada. Skills from the hard hit construction industry can be transferred to mining.

General Moly plans to hire 450 people by the end of the year. There are major copper operations in permitting. Companies are looking at mining rare earths and lithium—both of which are essential for cell phones, batteries, computers, and wind turbines and solar panels.

Imagine the jobs and new wealth that could be created if mining was encouraged. Senator Settelmeyer says, “It is hard enough for companies to get through the regulatory process and get a permit. On top of that there is frivolous environmental litigation that lengthens the process—cutting off vital resources and delaying jobs.”

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: epaoutofcontrol; mining; mules; pewenvironmental; roadbuildingban; weedfreehay
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To: ibytoohi

And what Republican candidate is promising “all ahead full” with energy development and mining? Brushing aside vast amounts of federal interference and anti-industrialism lunacy?

Perhaps the best thing would be to return most of the taken state lands back to the states. Federal land grabbing has caused much of the deterioration of American prosperity, and ending it is not enough, it must be reversed.


41 posted on 12/24/2011 9:09:36 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SumProVita
Leftist lunacy.

These people should be taken out and shot. It's a war on All of Us.

42 posted on 12/24/2011 9:17:38 AM PST by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: W. W. SMITH
You don't realize that your requirement is far more restrictive and ponderous than just using weed free feed.

It may be a new concept to you guys, but it actually isn't new to the people who have been both feeding animals and riding in the back-country longer than you've been thinking about it. :~)

43 posted on 12/24/2011 9:31:13 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ibytoohi

Mules have gotten along just fine without government intervention, which should be involved more in jobs and boosting the economy!


44 posted on 12/24/2011 9:31:53 AM PST by tob2 (Merry Christmas to all!)
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To: kactus

There is weed-free hay that is free of invasives, or, many packers used condensed hay pellets or cubes, that is cooked enough to be seed-free, and is easier and tidier to pack in.


45 posted on 12/24/2011 9:36:17 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: tob2
Mules have gotten along just fine without government intervention, which should be involved more in jobs and boosting the economy!

Read the thread. - it's not about the mules.

Example to ponder: You know how whenever there's a gun incident we can spot an idiot who doesn't know the first thing about guns immediately by what they say?

This is like that.

46 posted on 12/24/2011 9:39:41 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ibytoohi

47 posted on 12/24/2011 9:51:54 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: bunkerhill7
My sister has two mules she uses to eat the weeds in her pasture.

There is an old southern saying - Happy as a mule eating briars.

48 posted on 12/24/2011 10:15:42 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: ibytoohi

“We just smiled and waved/Sittin’ on that sack of seeds....Y’all come back now y’hear?”


49 posted on 12/24/2011 10:16:46 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Carry_Okie
Carrie, thanks for your very enlightening post. I was not aware of the intricacies of weed watching and their impact on all crops. Forgive a city boy his ignorance. I agree with conservation. Leave the land better than you found it, if you can. But, as you said, "Instead of mules one could bring in heavy equipment that the operator had pressure washed first and build a road." and

" The one benefit of this (probably stupid) policy of requiring clean mules is that it makes the land of people who practice good stewardship in raising feed more valuable. It pays them for the extra work they do to control a problem that (in most cases) they had no role in causing. Around here, government is the primary culprit in the continued spread of noxious weeds, I'm never for doing damage to the environment, but I thought what the hell...just another example of gov't getting in the way. One more thing, while I'm here. How did we ever survive the 1800's when there were no regulations to hinder us? I'm sure the fields somehow were able to survive the infestations. Appreciate your info...Merry Christmas to you and yours.

50 posted on 12/24/2011 10:17:40 AM PST by ibytoohi
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To: Flycatcher; HighlyOpinionated
America is hellbent on suicide.

I am afraid it is homicide. We have been suffering a slow death, sort of like arsenic poisoning, since the late 1800s. Marxists have been at it that long in their efforts to subvert this country. At one time they tried military intimidation but that failed so they went back to the slow subversion method. That is working.

Now that we see what is happening we must stand up to it and stop it. Ignore political correctness. Ann Coulter does. David Horowitz does. They are right!

51 posted on 12/24/2011 10:25:08 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: HairOfTheDog
Mules have gotten along just fine without government intervention, which should be involved more in jobs and boosting the economy!

I am afraid you have let your mind wonder a bit. The government should not be involved in jobs or boosting the economy either. The only jobs the government can create are government jobs. That takes money from the private sector and increases bureaucracy and costs. The only way the government can create private sector jobs is to get out of the way.

52 posted on 12/24/2011 10:40:48 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

Not my quote there... ^


53 posted on 12/24/2011 10:44:26 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

Multiple studies have been done regarding the proliferation of weeds & what to blame.

Horses have become a convenient target. They don’t deserve such.

The list of what/who distributes weeds includes:

The RAILROADS. A rail car can be in So Florida today & be in Idaho in 5 days. They pass thru miles and miles of ‘Federal land’ (Which should NOT be OWNED by the FEDS in the first place), & they distribute weeds.

WIND. Surely EPA & all the Enviros cannot stop the wind-—so they hammer at what they can instead. I am only talking about normal wind patterns here.

BIRDS-—both regional & migrating. Again— The Enviros cannot stop that, so they hammer at a weaker foe.

STORMS/TORNADOES-—again, the enviros cannot stop those, so they focus on the horses.

HORSES-—are WAY down the list of culprits. Feeding ‘Weed Free” hay is quite expensive, both to the grower & to the buyer/user. If your horse is used to baled hay & suddenly has to use cubes or pellets, colic can result. Colic is still the major killer of horses each & every year, notwithstanding some sort of viral outbreak. The availibility of such feed isn’t constant, either. The drought in the SW has caused a domino effect on hay prices and availability this year. Texas horse owners are getting hay from as far away as Florida. Cattle owners sent a majority of their herds to market early & skinny because they could not get hay. I cannot sell my horses with this economy & I cannot slaughter them for other uses, either. I must keep feeding them SOMETHING!!!

The rules that Barry the Imposter’s administration put in front of the mining company is no more than a blockade to prevent any mining.

When there is no more copper for wiring in new homes, offices & government buildings, someone younger than I has to remember this complete lunacy on the part of this administration.

Shades of the pages of Atlas Shrugged & D’Anconia Copper!!!


54 posted on 12/24/2011 10:45:04 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My neighbor raised soybeans for years. Then he decided to let grass grow for hay. He got manure to spread on his fields, now those fields are covered with millions of wild onions, which he never had in the past.””

I have had horses for over 26 years.

I have lived rural since 1993 & have had my horses on my own property & not in a boarded situation.

I did not have to pick up any manure in either of the 2 locations I have lived in since 1993. It was left to fertilize the pastures, etc.

I have NEVER seen wild onions on any of my pastures & I have NEVER heard any neighbor had such a problem, either.

I wonder—— what animal provided the manure this person used which had WILD ONIONS within it??????

With a farm background, I don’t know any animal which is fed wild onion as part of their diet.


55 posted on 12/24/2011 10:49:53 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ibytoohi

Obama is pushing to see how far he can go until he is stopped. The GOP caves like thin paper.


56 posted on 12/24/2011 10:51:33 AM PST by bmwcyle (I am ready to serve Jesus on Earth because the GOP failed again)
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To: ridesthemiles

I believe the American Horse Council has hard evidence of such studes.


57 posted on 12/24/2011 10:54:15 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

The world is always full of both stoppable and unstoppable problems.

Not sure the fact that unstoppable problems exist in the world is a good reason to control the stoppable ones.

I’m not even really arguing that this particular rule is a good or necessary one, either at all, or for this area. I’ll leave that to others more educated than me. That prevents me from sounding like an idiot to someone who actually does understand the particulars.

What I do know, and wanted to correct, were the several posters who, knowing even less about it than I do, thought it was something stupid about mule nutrition. It’s not.

I am a horse owner and understand the challenges with feeding horses, in this and other years. Too much rain, not enough, high gas prices, even volcanos, make finding hay a challenge in any given year. If it’s not one thing it’s another...

Acclimating horses to pellets before pack trips, or even all the time, is actually a pretty good way to make their diet more stable and consistent, all throughout the year, year to year. Worth doing if you want to ride in these areas very much... A bale of hay is no fun to pack in anyhow. :)


58 posted on 12/24/2011 10:55:52 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ridesthemiles
I did not have to pick up any manure in either of the 2 locations I have lived in since 1993. It was left to fertilize the pastures, etc.

You do realize, that the horse eating, and then pooping, in the same location is not where invasives come from, right?

Your earlier example to me of hay trucked in to Texas from Florida or elsewhere... that's where spread of exotic weeds comes from. That's actually the point. Bringing in seeds from other places that wouldn't be there otherwise.

59 posted on 12/24/2011 10:58:54 AM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: ridesthemiles

I wonder—— what animal provided the manure this person used which had WILD ONIONS within it??????

***With a farm background, I don’t know any animal which is fed wild onion as part of their diet.****

That’s what I wonder. His field is just above mine. In the past years he has planted alfalfa, soy beans, green beans, more green beans, and has had weed sprayers to keep his weeds down, so I know wild onions never had a chance to grow on his place. It is not fenced so he does not run livestock on it.

Last year he cut grass for hay, same this year, before and after the drought. Now his fields are yellow with dormant grass and millions of green wild onions. Where did they come from?


60 posted on 12/24/2011 11:01:43 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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