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Democrat wants grants for women's restrooms in fire stations (promotes gender equity)
The Hill ^ | 12/26/11 | Pete Kasperowicz

Posted on 12/26/2011 3:22:55 PM PST by Libloather

Democrat wants grants for women's restrooms in fire stations
By Pete Kasperowicz - 12/26/11 10:50 AM ET

Rep. Laura Richardson (D-Calif.) has proposed legislation that would let fire stations around the country apply for grants of up to $100,000 to build women's restrooms, showers and changing facilities.

The Fairness in Restrooms Existing in Stations (FIRE Stations) Act, H.R. 3753, says these grants would help promote gender equity in fire houses. The findings of the legislation says most were built with a "single-gender workforce" in mind, that 50 percent of all fire departments do not have any women employees, and that women make up just 3.7 percent of all firefighters.

"[A] few fire departments still assign women only to stations that have facilities for women, limiting the potential for promotion and advancement for women," the bill adds.

Under the bill, the Secretary of Homeland Security (DHS) could make grants to eligible fire stations to upgrade their restrooms to "create more equitable conditions for women firefighters." To be eligible, fire stations would have to submit an application to DHS that shows they have a "commitment to increasing the number of women firefighters," and that funds received would not be used to displace any personnel.

Priority would also be given to stations that have chemical facilities, refineries or other high-risk industries within their jurisdiction.

The bill limits grants to $100,000 per fire station, but does not put any final limit on the amount that could be spent. Instead, it authorizes the appropriation of "such sums as may be necessary to carry out this Act."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; democrats; dhs; fire; gender; restrooms; spending; women
Gender equity means using the SAME crapper - no? It's a hit-or-miss proposition.


1 posted on 12/26/2011 3:22:59 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

Let em use a friggin bucket...


2 posted on 12/26/2011 3:26:24 PM PST by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: Libloather

Fabric shops employ less than 5% men, and we Alllllll know it’s cuz of hhhhhhhHHHHHHHATE....!


3 posted on 12/26/2011 3:30:25 PM PST by gaijin
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To: Libloather

Women Firefighters: The Gender Boondoggle

http://www.laweekly.com/2008-01-24/news/the-gender-boondoggle/


4 posted on 12/26/2011 3:32:43 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Libloather

All the issues out there . .all the spending we can’t afford

And this vote seeking b**** wants this . incredible.


5 posted on 12/26/2011 3:32:59 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (MERRY CHRISTMAS to the ACLU)
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To: Libloather
She can take it with her when she gets promoted.


6 posted on 12/26/2011 3:34:04 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: gaijin; Libloather

7 posted on 12/26/2011 3:35:28 PM PST by LucyT
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To: A_Former_Democrat
...all the spending we can’t afford...

So, you're saying we aren't flush with cash?

8 posted on 12/26/2011 3:37:59 PM PST by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

Sooo, you’re saying we flush with cash??


9 posted on 12/26/2011 3:39:42 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Libloather

Why spend thousands for a new restroom when a five dollar lock would suffice?


10 posted on 12/26/2011 3:39:45 PM PST by SkyDancer ("If You Want To Learn To Love Better, You Should Start With A Friend Who You Hate")
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To: SkyDancer
Why spend thousands for a new restroom when a five dollar lock would suffice?

Yeah, give em a grant for five bucks.

11 posted on 12/26/2011 3:41:34 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Libloather

You missed the biggest point of the story.

The department of homeland security wil gve out the grants.


12 posted on 12/26/2011 3:41:39 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Control the media, you control its citizens.)
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To: Libloather
"Democrat wants grants..." are the key words here...she is just another rabid feminist looking for a reason to justify her existence.

There are plenty...PLENTY...of firms, businesses, buildings with "unisex" restrooms around. In fact, the original gripe from the feminazis was the fact they couldn't use the men's room.

What she wants is the money, the publicity, and to get rid of the urinals. She's a democrat first, and a woman second.
13 posted on 12/26/2011 3:43:26 PM PST by FrankR (What you resist...PERSISTS!)
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To: Libloather

I watched a show on TV one day. It was a Firefighters Rodeo kind of.

Games such as running up steps with hose , carrying weights up ladders, different things Fireghters are required to do turned into contests.

The thing that truly pissed me off was that there were two classes of participants, men and women. Now there arent two pay scales, they all get paid the same. That would mean that all are required to be able to participate together.fact is they cannot.

Standards have been lowered to bring in women. When you lower the standards you not only bring in the women who cannot meet the higher requirement, you bring in men who cannot meet them either.

Of course Chief Officers when interviewed will tell you that the women are doing great. They lie.
They know which side their bread is buttered on./
They know that if they say these women aren’t worth a sh*t that is the last promotion they will see. So: They lie.


14 posted on 12/26/2011 3:48:49 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Libloather

What about a law that would some how make women fire fighters the physical equivalent of male fire fighters? Regardless of what PC a**hats say, the test given to women are not the same physical test given to the men. We have women fire fighters that are not capable of dragging out victims let alone their fellow fire fighters.


15 posted on 12/26/2011 3:49:28 PM PST by calex59
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To: Libloather

Hell, doesn’t a lock on the door do it?


16 posted on 12/26/2011 3:52:02 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Libloather
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17 posted on 12/26/2011 3:53:24 PM PST by digger48
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To: bigheadfred

18 posted on 12/26/2011 3:53:47 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Libloather
Fairness in Restrooms Existing in Stations (FIRE Stations) Act

If it weren't true it would make for a great stand up routine.

When it comes to laws we now have EVERYTHING on the books but the kitchen sink.....literally.

19 posted on 12/26/2011 3:54:04 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: quantim

Looks like someone just couldn’t wait.


20 posted on 12/26/2011 3:56:55 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: digger48

Incidentally, that’d probably also help the guys who have problems with their aim.


21 posted on 12/26/2011 3:56:59 PM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2012: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Libloather

Well, if she's gonna haul such leftwing garbage, I demand the right to attach wide load blinkers to her butt.

22 posted on 12/26/2011 4:01:30 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: bigheadfred

Simple: Only hire transvestites. Now we can have a unisex restroom.


23 posted on 12/26/2011 4:01:55 PM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: RichInOC
Incidentally, that’d probably also help the guys who have problems with their aim.

and dribblers.

24 posted on 12/26/2011 4:02:44 PM PST by digger48
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To: donhunt

I’d just as soon let the world burn.


25 posted on 12/26/2011 4:06:02 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: Libloather

Clearly we’re not wasting ENOUGH money...


26 posted on 12/26/2011 4:09:54 PM PST by Argus
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To: Libloather

This is stupid. We have a $15 trillion dollar deficit. They can’t use the same bathroom? Do we ascribe to the Democrats’ belief that the Federal Government must solve every problem in the World?


27 posted on 12/26/2011 4:14:29 PM PST by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: Libloather
Seems fair, when you consider the considerable effort and expense being expended to reduce the gender inequity in female-dominated professions: public school teacher, nurse, childcare worker, retail, etc.

Oh, wait ....

28 posted on 12/26/2011 4:18:40 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Libloather
feh...
29 posted on 12/26/2011 4:21:06 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Signalman

Good post. Article hits it on the head.

Women don’t fail at these things, firefighting, specialized military, NFL football, NBA basketball, etc. because evil white men are conspiring against them.

They fail (even when people are doing everything they can, bending over backwards and changing the physical requirements) because certain activities require more strength, muscle, quickness and brawn than women can muster even for women who are in the top 99.8 percentile of women physically, because: Women are physically different than men.

You hear it all the time: “I knew a woman when I was (INSERT ENVIRONMENT HERE) who could kick the tail of any man at (INSERT TASK HERE).”

It could be anything from shooting sniper rifles to martial arts to lifting cars off of injured people during times of stress.

I don’t doubt that there is always a possibility there is going to be a woman in a given situation who can outperform any guy at hand when it comes to physical tasks. But it won’t always happen.

But what will ALWAYS happen is in any physical situation when the top of the female pyramid is in competition with the top of the male pyramid of talent, women cannot compete. Period. End of story.

And many people HATE to hear that. It is REALITY. Too many people have their reality skewed by watching Hollywood movies where women and men are treated as absolute equals physically. Yeah. That is why the Special Forces in the military are sprinkled with women. That is why there are female linebackers in the NFL.

This issue is going to come up again and again and again. Because people are too politically correct to accept the reality: Women are not physically the same as Men.

Repeat.Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.

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Women are not physically the same as Men.


30 posted on 12/26/2011 4:27:25 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: SkyDancer
Why spend thousands for a new restroom when a five dollar lock would suffice?

I don't support this budget breaking law, but women will get the short end of the deal when bathrooms and showers are shared. Or maybe it is whoever is in a distinct minority won't have equal, or even reasonable access to bathrooms and showers.

There is a facility sharing thing at my office, with a men/woman changeable sign and a lock on the locker/shower room. I know women that just don't bother working out or biking to work, because there are men showering and dressing in the room a good portion of the time during the morning rush and lunch hour. Women always end up waiting, and then possibly making multiple men wait while they lock the door to shower and dress, which takes them longer than men.

Women also have the indignity of always having to shout into the room before entering. Then there's the possibility of an oops moment or perv behavior of some sort, landing the management in legal trouble.

It's a dumb idea from a company too cheap to pay for custodial services for two rooms. Any woman that would complain about the situation would have my sympathy, perhaps even a shoulder to cry on.

31 posted on 12/26/2011 4:33:56 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the propet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Libloather

“Priority would also be given to stations that have chemical facilities, refineries or other high-risk industries”

Put women in risk, immediately. High priority. Understood.


32 posted on 12/26/2011 4:52:10 PM PST by Moose Burger
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To: Minn

Which is why many companies have closed their facilities altogether or never opened them.

They were originally for the men to use who did the manual labor and got hot and sweaty at work, then the office women decided they deserved to be able to use them, so some arrangement was made like you said, only to have them bitch more and more, so the company shut it down completely and made sure everyone knew why.

Now NO ONE gets to use them and we are all equal. Ladies, stop bitching, you got what you wanted-equality.


33 posted on 12/26/2011 4:56:08 PM PST by packrat35 (Heartless)
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To: Libloather

It is all the rage right now to get women into the fire service.

I hear the same story over and over about them getting hired by answering all the questions just right in the interview board and then turning a quick 180 as soon as they are hired.

Basically we live 1/3 of our lives here together. Many fire stations still just have one large dorm room where everybody sleeps.

We are allowed to sleep at night when we are not on calls. So what do you sleep in if there are females in the same room? Everything but your shoes and socks? And you look like what when you get that 0230 EMS call?

So the story that is repeated over and over is the female comes in, destroys unit cohesion and moral and does exactly what she does or does not want to do under threat of sexual harassment complaints. Usually it falls to the “does not want to do” end of the spectrum. Names tarnished and careers ruined.

I am not a real big guy but I have been able to do everything I have been called upon to do in 24 years and have dragged out everyone I have been called upon to drag out.

We have had many women including some very athletic ones try the entrance test but they just do not have the upper body strength to get through the test. So we continue to lower the standards just so one day the powers that be brag to their buddies about having a female FF.

No matter what the cost.

rant off


34 posted on 12/26/2011 4:58:13 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Libloather

Guess that as a country we’re not broke after all.


35 posted on 12/26/2011 4:59:50 PM PST by Enten (How's that hopey changey thing been working out for you?)
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To: Moose Burger

Yes that is a super idea. This career is already linked with high cancer rates so lets put extra breeding age females in here and see if we can get deformed babies also. heavy /s

These people are idiots.


36 posted on 12/26/2011 5:02:54 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: packrat35
Which is why many companies have closed their facilities altogether or never opened them. They were originally for the men to use who did the manual labor and got hot and sweaty at work,

I've worked in many offices with shower facilities, where no manual labor was going on. These facilities exist as a perk for anybody that, for whatever reason, might require a shower during the day; almost always people exercising for fitness or transportation. It is also part of healthy employee and "green" transportation efforts, lame as some of those are.

If a company expects people that value a shower at work to want to work there, and if it expects to be taken seriously when preaching about saving energy, walking/running/biking to work, and healthy lifestyles, a few shower heads a handful of lockers in a bathroom is a pretty minor expense.

Women make up easily half the staff (if nowhere near half the showerers). It isn't reasonable to assign them inevitable second class status to pinch a few pennies.

37 posted on 12/26/2011 5:17:02 PM PST by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: Libloather
Might as well plan for 7 restrooms: Male, Female, Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, & OTHER.

This should satisfy the ACLU for a few years.

38 posted on 12/26/2011 5:32:02 PM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: gaijin; WVNan; Chode

“Fabric shops employ less than 5% men, and we Alllllll know it’s cuz of hhhhhhhHHHHHHHATE....!”

Well actually that is changing. At least at the Jo Ann fabrics in my area. I don’t know if this is going on at all Jo Ann’s but here I have see about 50-50 ratio of men and women in the store. This happened about two years ago and the only thing I can account for it is they are hard up for employees.
It used to be a requirement to work at Jo Ann’s that one had to read a “guide sheet” (this is the sewing instruction pages in a sewing pattern). So when I saw this one 17 year old boy working the counter I asked him if he could and he said “No”. Then the customer behind me bitched “well he’s smart!” I told her “I asked him if he could read a guide sheet not what the quantum energy level is at zero degrees Kelvin!”.

So you tell me what is going on here.


39 posted on 12/26/2011 5:38:48 PM PST by Morgana (Rent this Space....Cheap)
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To: Minn

You say that like you believe it but in the end, what USUALLY happens is they close it down for everyone.

But feel free to complain and see what it gets you. By the way, I have seen this happen at 5 jobs in my lifetime with the same result every time.


40 posted on 12/26/2011 6:06:47 PM PST by packrat35 (Heartless)
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To: Libloather

I don’t get it. They fought to be firefighters and the standards had to be lowered to ensure equality...

now they want separate ?


41 posted on 12/26/2011 6:24:49 PM PST by stylin19a (obama - "FREDO" smart)
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To: Libloather

When I know I can’t afford something I don’t get it!


42 posted on 12/26/2011 7:14:51 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (5-4-3-...!)
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To: LucyT

I wonder how many ferrets and weasels gave their lives for her wig.


43 posted on 12/26/2011 7:49:18 PM PST by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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