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Aren't we being told the economy is rebounding and that happy days are here again?

1 posted on 12/27/2011 6:53:46 AM PST by Kartographer
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It’s a sad irony that Sears was a pioneer of shop at home, (Sears catalog), and shop at home, (internet), is doing them in.

This is more of a business model and image issue. Sears is seen by younger shoppers as being Grandma’s store. And Kmart is seen as Walmart without the low prices.


2 posted on 12/27/2011 6:57:31 AM PST by brownsfan (Aldous Huxley and Mike Judge were right.)
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Wonder if there is a list of stores yet?


3 posted on 12/27/2011 6:59:07 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Hopey Changey.


4 posted on 12/27/2011 7:01:39 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (ROMNEY / ALINSKY 2012 (don't zot me bro, it's sarcasm)
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Why don’t they just copy the WalMart business model?
It seems to work well............


5 posted on 12/27/2011 7:02:20 AM PST by Red Badger (Every child should have a meadow to play in..............)
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Did Sears contribute to the Democrat campaign in 2008?


8 posted on 12/27/2011 7:03:49 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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Now a days, Sears carry sub standard , overpriced stuff. If you want to over price, atleast provide quality.


11 posted on 12/27/2011 7:09:16 AM PST by jennychase
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Well...is this common sense or what??

Millions upon millions of "unemployed" (no job, no longer looking for a job, underemployed, temp, contractor) exist.

The unemployed buy nothing or far less than normal.

As a result, sales drop at retail stores.

The retail stores layoff (or fire, if you prefer) employees.

Unemployment rises.

The unemployed buy nothing or far less than normal.

Sales drop further at retail stores.

More stores close, forcing more layoffs (or firings, if you prefer).

The unemployed buy nothing or far less than normal.

And so it goes....

The other side of "the coin" is this.

The unemployed rely on state monetary support.

The unemployed rely on fed welfare programs.

Therefore, the unemployed depend on govt largesse.

The unemployed cause govt. to grow to support their increasing numbers.

Govt must collect more money to support growing welfare state.

Governments (both state and federal) must either raise taxes or borrow money.

"The Rich" begin to protect their assets (eg: move assets out of the country, or move physically to a lower tax area).

Govts borrows more money to "feed" the welfare system ruining its already damaged credit rating, for lenders know that neither the US nor many of the states therein cannot pay what it owes now much less meet its obligations in the future.

Meanwhile.....

The unemployed begin to default on debt (credit card, medical, and housing to name a few).

Lending institutions wind up with worthless "assets" on their books and dwindling cash reserves; they must cut overhead to remain solvent.

They then "lay off" (or fire if you prefer) employees.

This increases the unemployed.

The government falsifys the "unemployment" count by saying that 2.5 million jobs that have left the country no longer exist and therefore can no longer be counted.

The unemployed - ever increasing - buy nothing or far less than normal.

Factories manufacture less product causing factory closures; resulting in more unemployed.

The govt mounts a "spin" campaign damning "the rich" and demanding an increasing amount of money from them.

The unions join the campaign screaming for "workers rights" and raising the dues of the few employed members they have left; for they need money to retain their "lifestyles".

"The rich" protect their assets by moving them out of the country; shutting down factories, and physically moving to lower tax areas.

Need more???

Read "Atlas Shrugged" if you've not already. Enjoy the story....but look for the lessons.

Your biggest fear is this - in answer to the question, "Who is John Galt?"

There isn't one - we're on our own.

15 posted on 12/27/2011 7:21:41 AM PST by Logic n' Reason (N/A)
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This can’t be true....the economy is seeing steady increase in activity. Job numbers are fantastic; more employers are hiring and less and less are applying for unemployment. Each day the DOW rises a couple hundred points, it is a boom town economy.......how can this be true? It can’t all just be because the Muslim Obama is running for re-election, can it?


17 posted on 12/27/2011 7:24:13 AM PST by Gaffer
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Sears and K Mart needs to go back to what made them the stores. Sears needs to go back to their catalouge, back to American made Craftmen tools and to get Whirlpool to make their Kenmore appliances. KMart needs to be the anti-WalMart, by being an slightly upscale discount store. They needto be between WalMart and Target.


18 posted on 12/27/2011 7:25:38 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (If we stay home in November '12... Don't complain if 0 shreds the constitution!!!)
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Rainman said it best ...


20 posted on 12/27/2011 7:34:52 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("At a time like this, we can't afford the luxury of thinking!")
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IMO, Sears went downhill shortly after they became the “softer side of Sears”.


22 posted on 12/27/2011 7:43:25 AM PST by lysie
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My dad thought Craftsman hand tools were the best for home use until Sears bought K-Mart and then he switched to buying Kobalt hand tools from Lowes.
27 posted on 12/27/2011 7:55:08 AM PST by fso301
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The demise of Sears was foreseen long ago. It started when Sears stopped being a consumer oriented business and wanted to become a huge conglomerate.

They did this by building dependency among their suppliers, then threatening to cut them off unless they slashed their prices, and then, after hurting them, to buy them out at a discount. Then while keeping the good reputation and status of that brand name, to ruin it by slashing quality.

Many good American businesses were destroyed this way, and Sears made a lot of enemies.

At the same time, Sears ended its long held a hire-to-retire policy that created strong loyalty among its employees, instead firing those with seniority and hiring cheaper replacements. So their service quality withered.

Then, much to their surprise, this started to hurt their business. Granted, those responsible had either been promoted to upper management or moved on to ruin other corporations.

But Sears was ready to blame everybody but themselves for their decline. The big merger with KMart, of a failing business bought up by another failing business, was just the icing on the cake.

Yet it is a long, slow, terminal illness that afflicts Sears and will eventually kill it. A tragedy, really, but that’s what you get when you hold management vipers to your breast.


28 posted on 12/27/2011 7:55:13 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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I’m sure we will lose 1 at least since in this city of 28,000 we have 2 Kmart stores and a Sears too.


51 posted on 12/27/2011 9:14:38 AM PST by chris_bdba
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The demise of Sears was foreseen long ago. It started when Sears stopped being a consumer oriented business and wanted to become a huge conglomerate.

They did this by building dependency among their suppliers, then threatening to cut them off unless they slashed their prices, and then, after hurting them, to buy them out at a discount. Then while keeping the good reputation and status of that brand name, to ruin it by slashing quality.

Many good American businesses were destroyed this way, and Sears made a lot of enemies.

At the same time, Sears ended its long held a hire-to-retire policy that created strong loyalty among its employees, instead firing those with seniority and hiring cheaper replacements. So their service quality withered.

Then, much to their surprise, this started to hurt their business. Granted, those responsible had either been promoted to upper management or moved on to ruin other corporations.

But Sears was ready to blame everybody but themselves for their decline. The big merger with KMart, of a failing business bought up by another failing business, was just the icing on the cake.

Yet it is a long, slow, terminal illness that afflicts Sears and will eventually kill it. A tragedy, really, but that’s what you get when you hold management vipers to your breast.


54 posted on 12/27/2011 9:27:39 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Here’s a little-known fact for ya, Sammy: At one time (early 1950s), Sears sold it’s own brand of automobilie in it’s stores, called the “Sears Allstate.” (It was really a rebadged Henry J produced by the Kaiser-Fraser automobile company.)


63 posted on 12/27/2011 11:19:11 AM PST by GreenHornet
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The place I used to draw my pay slammed the door on me today
And told me just to stay away and no come back again
I went back home to bring the news my woman saw that I had the blues
But she said the babies need new shoes and I’m a worried man

Well there is no way that I can see that I can feed my family
Cause I don’t own no money tree and very little lam
But I said mama don’t you cry I’ll get a job up fore the day’s gone by
I don’t know where though and that is why I’m a worried man

Worried man worried man...
Worried man worried man...


69 posted on 12/27/2011 1:42:16 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB (Congress: Looting the future to bribe the present.)
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Yes we can...create more vacant retail space!
Yes we can...create jobs repairing smashed windows!


70 posted on 12/27/2011 3:35:37 PM PST by matt04
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Oh, goodie! Another K-Mart / Sears thread!


71 posted on 12/27/2011 6:50:16 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (...And I'm All Out Of Gum.)
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This one is more about a very bad merger than the economy. K-Mart was going down and Sears decided to jump on their sinking boat. It was a bad idea 7 years ago when they announced it, and nothing that’s happened since then made it any better.


73 posted on 12/28/2011 8:26:38 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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