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How the feds are tracking your kid (more than just watching!)
New York Post ^ | December 28, 2011 | EMMETT MCGROARTY & JANE ROBBINS

Posted on 12/28/2011 12:15:22 PM PST by CedarDave

Would it bother you to know that the federal Centers for Disease Control had been shown your daughter’s health records to see how she responded to an STD/teen-pregnancy-prevention program? How about if the federal Department of Education and Department of Labor scrutinized your son’s academic performance to see if he should be “encouraged” to leave high school early to learn a trade? Would you think the government was intruding on your territory as a parent?

Under regulations the Obama Department of Education released this month, these scenarios could become reality. The department has taken a giant step toward creating a de facto national student database that will track students by their personal information from preschool through career. Although current federal law prohibits this, the department decided to ignore Congress and, in effect, rewrite the law. Student privacy and parental authority will suffer.

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... on Dec. 2, the Department of Education rejected almost all the criticisms and released the regulations. As of Jan. 3, 2012, interstate and intergovernmental access to your child’s personal information will be practically unlimited. The federal government will have a de facto nationwide database of supposedly confidential student information.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 1984; bigbrother; childrenofthestate; doe; education; educationdepartment; fascism; fedstrackingkids; healthcare; homeschooling; immunization; nationalsocialism; publicschool; publicschools; totalitarianism
Current federal law prohibits a nationwide student database and strictly limits disclosure of a student’s personal information. However, like so many Obama administration initiatives, the DOE determined it could ignore the legal obstacles by simply bypassing Congress. The administration wants this data to include much more than name, address and test scores; its goal is to collect information on health-care history, family income and family voting status. It views public schools as a goldmine of data available from a captive audience.
1 posted on 12/28/2011 12:15:32 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: LucyT; Nachum

“As of Jan. 3, 2012, interstate and intergovernmental access to your child’s personal information will be practically unlimited. The federal government will have a de facto nationwide database of supposedly confidential student information.”


2 posted on 12/28/2011 12:21:22 PM PST by thouworm (.)
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To: CedarDave
... the DOE determined it could ignore the legal obstacles by simply bypassing Congress.

Maybe Congress, if it had any Gonads, could ignore the DOE and defund the entire department.

3 posted on 12/28/2011 12:22:15 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: CedarDave

Wow, that’s frickin’ scary!


4 posted on 12/28/2011 12:23:13 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: CedarDave

George Orwell, please call your office...


5 posted on 12/28/2011 12:25:19 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: CedarDave

DOE is immune to HIPAA? Why am I not surprised.


6 posted on 12/28/2011 12:25:50 PM PST by DManA
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To: CedarDave

Time for a doctors “black market”.


7 posted on 12/28/2011 12:25:57 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: CedarDave

Hey, I don’t have any kids but, if they want to watch the two next door, or the three down the block or the four across the street- and make sure they’re not on my lawn...well...I say, more power to ‘em!


8 posted on 12/28/2011 12:26:30 PM PST by Krankor ( spare time.)
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To: CedarDave

these people can’t help but get into every aspect of our lives in an attempt to control / dominate us

this crap must stop


9 posted on 12/28/2011 12:26:50 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: rllngrk33

HAHAHAHAHAHA- I crack myself up sometimes.


10 posted on 12/28/2011 12:27:41 PM PST by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: CedarDave

Thank you for posting this as I don’t have the patience or finess to post up. Read this and was stunned at the Obama regime, which is my usual state when it comes to all things Obummer.


11 posted on 12/28/2011 12:27:41 PM PST by RitaOK (wRasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: CedarDave

For progressives (communists) the people are property of the state, especially the children who need to be trained to government standards.

Why do this to a generally successful culture? Why are they trying to divert the American self-reliance success story to something that has failed over and over?

It must be money although I’m not sure who is at the top of this heap and why they’re not content with what they have....I know...stupid comment...but I truly don’t understand the mind set.


12 posted on 12/28/2011 12:28:57 PM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: sten

The resources (funding) for the DOE should be transferred to border security - perhaps they can track illegals with this crack ‘control’ they intend for legal citizens.


13 posted on 12/28/2011 12:31:31 PM PST by sodpoodle ( Newt - God has tested him for a reason..)
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To: metmom

Please make your ping list aware of this.

This is precisely why I decided to homeschool years ago.


14 posted on 12/28/2011 12:32:20 PM PST by Waryone
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To: beaversmom

Me thinks by now that parents should no the last safe place for their kids and grandkids is the public school. They are churning out little future Marxists unabated as we sit wondering what happened to our country. Still, what really do we do about it? Nothing. And such grooming will resume in January, unabated, right after Christmas vacation.


15 posted on 12/28/2011 12:32:20 PM PST by RitaOK (wRasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: RitaOK

“parents should no by now”

How embarrassing. Forgive. “Parents should know...”


16 posted on 12/28/2011 12:35:52 PM PST by RitaOK (wRasmussen- the polling standard for accuracy.)
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To: Aria

They want a lowest common denominator *chav* culture as you find in modern Britain.


17 posted on 12/28/2011 12:37:52 PM PST by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: rllngrk33
Maybe Congress, if it had any Gonads, could ignore the DOE and defund the entire department.

Gonads are an endangered species in congress these days.
18 posted on 12/28/2011 12:42:00 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: CedarDave

How about if the federal Department of Education and Department of Labor scrutinized your son’s academic performance to see if he should be “encouraged” to leave high school early to learn a trade? ...................................... That’s not anything new. Board of Cooperate Services took students out of school to learn at a trade school. As a former teacher, I feel it is a great idea. Our kids aren’t all cut out to be doctors, lawyers, or rocket scientists. Some people work better with their hands than their brains. One must be happy in what they are doing, if your goal is high and you have the ability to achieve it, then go for it. If its something that will make you happy, then who is to say no. Our problem in schools, as I see it, is student motivation, not Gov’t. intervention. There are vocations out there that the average student is completely unaware of, as in most cases their parents too. Its not all bad.


19 posted on 12/28/2011 12:42:20 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft ( WHO YOU ELECT IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS WHO THEY APPOINT!)
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To: CedarDave

That’s the Democrats for you!


20 posted on 12/28/2011 12:43:22 PM PST by maxwellsmart_agent (I)
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To: CedarDave

How’s this not a violation of HIPAA??


21 posted on 12/28/2011 12:44:20 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: sodpoodle
The resources (funding) for the DOE should be transferred to border security - perhaps they can track illegals with this crack ‘control’ they intend for legal citizens.

ROFL. Now that's racist, and xenophobic!
22 posted on 12/28/2011 12:46:20 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: CedarDave

I’ve known for some time that the accepted practice is for newborns to be assigned a social security number before they even leave the hospital, and I thought that was scary, but a conversation I had with a young mother recently left me appalled.

She said that her baby had to go to the hospital because he was having seizures.

“Why,” I asked, “is he having seizures?”

“It’s because of the high fever he gets every time he has an immunization shot,” she replied. “It happened last time, too.”

“Why,” I prodded, “if he has seizures every time he gets one of these shots, do you keep getting them?”

“Oh,” she said, sounding alarmed, “if he doesn’t have a complete record of these immunizations by the time he’s old enough for preschool, they won’t accept him!”

God help us.


23 posted on 12/28/2011 12:52:15 PM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Our problem in schools, as I see it, is student motivation, not Gov’t. intervention. There are vocations out there that the average student is completely unaware of, as in most cases their parents too. Its not all bad.

Student motivation is provided by teachers and parents, not government. And more teachers who can instill a sense of wonder and impetus about what a dedicated, determined person can accomplish are what's needed, not government agencies tracking people from cradle to the grave. Schools and parents keeping track of student progress is one thing, the federal government doing it and sharing the information within and among other agencies is not needed. I wonder how long before Johnny's and Jane's information ends up in an expanded Homeland Security agency?

24 posted on 12/28/2011 12:52:16 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: RitaOK
“How embarrassing. Forgive. “Parents should know...”

----- Don't be embarassed,we all do it.

I always tell myself it's a little humility reminder.

25 posted on 12/28/2011 12:54:01 PM PST by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: CedarDave

In Feb. of 2008, Cliff Kincaid wrote in the DC Journal about “Bath-House” Barry’s Global Tax Proposal; this included the “Convention on the Rights of the Child”, as well as making the U.N. “the indispensable common house of the entire human family, through which we will seek to realize our universal aspirations for peace, cooperation and development.”

Essentially, “Bath-House” Barry wants the U.N. to raise our children.

We knew of this in Feb. of 2008....but we didn’t vote for “Bath-House” Barry because of the color of his skin./sarc.


26 posted on 12/28/2011 12:55:18 PM PST by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: WKUHilltopper
How’s this not a violation of HIPAA??

The purpose of HIPAA is not to protect anyone's security, despite the hype.
27 posted on 12/28/2011 12:57:33 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: CedarDave
In the 1970's, a newly elected Congressman Gingrich voted in favor of creating the Department of Education. 
28 posted on 12/28/2011 1:21:22 PM PST by .30Carbine
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To: CedarDave

Imagine 4 more years of Obama/democrat rule.

They way things are going, it’s possible, it’s very possible....


29 posted on 12/28/2011 1:22:50 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~.. Newt/Palin-West-2012."got a lot swirling around in my head.")
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To: Aria
For progressives (communists) the people are property of the state, especially the children who need to be trained to government standards.

Bump that...and your tagline, too!

30 posted on 12/28/2011 1:25:06 PM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Aria
"It must be money although I’m not sure who is at the top of this heap and why they’re not content with what they have....I know...stupid comment...but I truly don’t understand the mind set."

No, America must fall so that the One World Order can take control.
31 posted on 12/28/2011 1:35:00 PM PST by thesaleboat (Pray The Rosary Daily (Our Lady, July 13, 1917))
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To: CedarDave

Gotta love those toddler fingerprinting drives the local cops do every year. It’s all about “safety” dontchaknow.


32 posted on 12/28/2011 1:36:00 PM PST by moehoward
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To: algernonpj

The purpose of HIPAA was to make patients sign there privacy rights away in order to get treated and avoid any lawsuits with what they were already doing with your medical information.


33 posted on 12/28/2011 1:59:34 PM PST by CJ Wolf (OMG - Obama Must Go!)
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To: algernonpj

Yeah, you’re probably right.

These SOBs are going way too far.


34 posted on 12/28/2011 2:00:30 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: CJ Wolf
The purpose of HIPAA was to make patients sign there privacy rights away in order to get treated and avoid any lawsuits with what they were already doing with your medical information.

Sounds about correct.
35 posted on 12/28/2011 3:33:50 PM PST by algernonpj (He who pays the piper . . .)
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To: thouworm; rockinqsranch; SatinDoll; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; ...
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How the feds are tracking your kid (more than just watching!)

The administration wants this data to include much more than name, address and test scores. According to the National Data Collection Model, the government should collect information on health-care history, family income and family voting status. In its view, public schools offer a golden opportunity to mine reams of data from a captive audience.

The department’s eagerness to get control of all this information is almost palpable. But current federal law prohibits a nationwide student database and strictly limits disclosure of a student’s personal information. - So the department has determined that it can overcome the legal obstacles by simply bypassing Congress and essentially rewriting the federal privacy statute.

Check out article, then read more at the Link.

Thanks thouworm.

36 posted on 12/28/2011 8:40:56 PM PST by LucyT
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To: .30Carbine
“Oh,” she said, sounding alarmed, “if he doesn’t have a complete record of these immunizations by the time he’s old enough for preschool, they won’t accept him!”

That has been taking place for some time now.

37 posted on 12/28/2011 9:27:13 PM PST by Spunky (Sarah Palin on Polls "Poles are for Strippers and Cross Country Skiers")
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To: rllngrk33
Maybe Congress, if it had any Gonads, could ignore the DOE and defund the entire department.

You're talking about a large group of folks that had a lot of supporters of No Child Left Behind. If they enabled that federal power grab, they'll simply roll over for this one.
38 posted on 12/28/2011 9:37:17 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

I guess you missed my reply to my own post. (see #10)


39 posted on 12/29/2011 6:30:23 AM PST by rllngrk33 (Things will continue getting worse until January 21, 2013.)
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To: rllngrk33

Off hand, I’d say you are cracking up...


40 posted on 12/29/2011 6:50:57 AM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Shimmer1

Homeschooling is the most radical act any citizen/subject can do.


41 posted on 12/29/2011 6:52:35 AM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: CedarDave

Doctors now fill up children’s files with their answers to personal and inappropriate questions on themselves and their families. Those files belong to the government under Deathcare.


42 posted on 12/29/2011 7:19:17 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: null and void

I’m a radical then.


43 posted on 12/29/2011 7:24:47 AM PST by Shimmer1 (No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up.)
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To: Shimmer1

Yep!


44 posted on 12/29/2011 7:54:13 AM PST by null and void (Day 1073 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Personally, I consider our nation's socialist system of K-12 schools to be such a threat to our continued existence as a free nation that I have eliminated all socialist K-12 teachers from my friend list. I will not have anyone who would cooperate with this in any manner as a friend.

I seriously doubt that our nation can withstand another generation of citizens being subjected to our nation's system of socialist K-12 schools.

45 posted on 12/29/2011 11:33:49 AM PST by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: CedarDave

Since when do regs trump Congressionally enacted law? Congress has to wake up.


46 posted on 12/29/2011 12:05:51 PM PST by ntnychik
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