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Iowa: Santorum Surges, Romney Stable, Paul Dropping (Internal Polling: Romney is “pulling away”)
weeklystandard.com/blogs ^ | 12/29/2011 | Stephen F. Hayes

Posted on 12/29/2011 6:22:38 PM PST by TBBT

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To: Sola Veritas

You don’t understand. In the fantasy world in which TBBT resides, only Newt Gingrich can stop Mitt Romney. People who votes for anyone other than Newt are actually voting for Romney.

Never mind that Newt is falling like a rock in the polls or there are dozens of steamer trunks (not baggage) that have yet to be opened. Newt is the one. LOL!


21 posted on 12/29/2011 6:46:50 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: Timber Rattler

Don’t waste your time.


22 posted on 12/29/2011 6:46:57 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: TBBT
Evangelicals are going to screw us.

The irony in this is that Iowa evangelicals are supposedly adamantly opposed to Romney - desperately trying to find a Not Romney that they could get behind. Their choice in Santorum - as it appears - is going to give it to Romney.
23 posted on 12/29/2011 6:47:33 PM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

Of course, these polls are designed to push or denigrate certain candidates. As the actual date approaches, pollsters have to use more realistic numbers to maintain credibility. Too bad money foolishly follows polls.


24 posted on 12/29/2011 6:47:33 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: bwc2221

This is what happens when people become infatuated with “debate prowess” and not principles.


25 posted on 12/29/2011 6:48:18 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: TBBT

Well, then, can you at least describe exactly what and who constitute this ‘us’ you belong to?


26 posted on 12/29/2011 6:48:50 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: TBBT

Santorum is a Catholic.


27 posted on 12/29/2011 6:50:28 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: writer33
Newt is likely to win many states and has a strong chance to be the Conservative nominee. Go NEWT !

January
? - Iowa 28 delegates

? - New Hampshire 12
Newt - South Carolina 25
Newt - Florida 50


February
Newt - Nevada 28

Newt - Maine 24

? - Colorado 36
? - Minnesota 40

Newt - Arizona 29
Newt - Michigan 30

March
Newt - Washington 43
Newt - Alaska 27
Newt - Georgia 76

Newt - Idaho 32
RINO - Mass 41

Newt - North Dakota 28

Newt - Ohio 66

Newt - Oklahoma 43

Newt - Tennessee 58

? - Vermont 17
Newt - Virginia 50

Newt - Wyoming 29

Newt - Kansas 40

Newt - Alabama 50

? - Hawaii 20
Newt - Mississippi 40

Newt - Missouri 52

? - Illinois 69

Newt - Louisiana 46

April

Newt - Maryland 37
Newt or Perry - Texas 155

? - Wash D.C. 19

Newt - Wisconsin 42

? - Connecticut 28

? - Delaware 17
? - New York 95

Newt - Pennsylvania 72

? - Rhode Island 19

May
Newt - Indiana 46

Newt - North Carolina 55

 Newt - West Virginia 31

Newt - Nebraska 35

Newt - Oregon 29

Newt - Arkansas 36

Newt - Kentucky 45


June
? - California 172
Newt - Montana 26

Newt - New Jersey 50

Newt - New Mexico 23

Newt - South Dakota 28

RINO - Utah 40

People like and trust Newt. Go Newt!

28 posted on 12/29/2011 6:51:47 PM PST by show
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To: txhurl
Well, then, can you at least describe exactly what and who constitute this ‘us’ you belong to?

I'll do it for TBBT. "Us" means principled conservatives. For RINOS, it's a death null. They no their candidate can't win over the principled crowd so the attacks begin.

29 posted on 12/29/2011 6:52:36 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: TBBT

“Evangelicals are going to screw us.”

How so? They have a strategy of spreading their votes around. Give everybody some support.


30 posted on 12/29/2011 6:52:58 PM PST by truth_seeker (l)
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To: show

When the votes show it, I’ll believe it. Until then, I’ll vote principles first. I can always vote RINO and take a bath when I have to do it later.


31 posted on 12/29/2011 6:53:50 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: show

I like your spirit...

But I’m a realist... A 4th place finish for Newt in Iowa is going to do some damage. It’s possible it might shake out his way. But odds will become much worse.

You think the establishment/media’s effort to shove Romney down our throats has been intense so far, wait til Romney comes in 1st or 2nd in Iowa.

Santourm won’t have a prayer...


32 posted on 12/29/2011 6:56:16 PM PST by TBBT
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To: writer33

No, apparently TBBT’s ‘us’ = fiscon + milcon - socon.

My ‘us’ is all three.


33 posted on 12/29/2011 7:01:07 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: txhurl

Maybe :-)


34 posted on 12/29/2011 7:02:20 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

Uh, no, NOT maybe.

Three legs.


35 posted on 12/29/2011 7:04:23 PM PST by txhurl (Perry/Pence 2012 OR Perry/Ryan 2012 or even better Perry/Abbott 2012!)
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To: TBBT

I hear you and get what you’re saying, but isn’t it also fair to blame the candidates themselves?

All of theem have had ample opportunity to make their case. All of them have had big leads at one time. And none of them have been able to hold it.

I mean, you can’t blame Santorum’s recent surge for the fact that Perry once led by like 20 pts in IA and is now on the verge of being a non-factor. You can’t blame Santorum or the evangelicals for the fact that Newt only recently had a big lead and saw it frittered all away.

The fact is none of them have been able to close the deal.

I also blame some of the evangelical leaders and other elected officials. If someone like Vander Plaats and the others had endorsed Newt a few weeks ago maybe he’s still on top and doing much better. If Steve King endorsed someone, or Branstad, maybe that helps. Same with Huckabee. Or Demint. Maybe if Rush had endorsed someone. But none of them did. They all hung back and let Romney run right through. but at the end of the day, isn’t up to one of the candidates to just make their case and close the deal? Always be closing.

It’s disappointing that none of the field was able to grab the brass ring.

Who knows, maybe it’s not too late for someone else.


36 posted on 12/29/2011 7:04:45 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: heiss

Santorum is not national material; like him or not.


37 posted on 12/29/2011 7:04:45 PM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: txhurl

No I don’t have a problem with evangelicals. I’m not one of them, but I don’t have a problem with them.

However, based on all the evidence so far, Santorum’s surge is coming from evangelicals. That surge is quite possibly going to give it to Romney in Iowa. If Romney wins Iowa he’ll be hard to beat.

So when I say “us” - when the result ends up being Romney as the nominee - that “us” means the country.


38 posted on 12/29/2011 7:07:01 PM PST by TBBT
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To: txhurl

Of course. I know, but for TBBT, he tries to gnaw off the third leg. LOL!


39 posted on 12/29/2011 7:08:40 PM PST by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: TBBT
IOWA ?????

Iowa has a population of .... 3,007,856. Total. Nothing wrong with it, but Iowa and purple state is not a true Conservative state.

If any Liberal media hack attempts to frame Iowa as the leading indicator of what Conservatives want, they are liars. Iowa ranks number 30 out of 50 in regards to it's population.

Top Ten States by Population

1, California ( who cares, blue state)
2. Texas (Newt might win Texas or place a strong 2nd)
3. New York ( who cares, blue state)
4. Florida - NEWT will win
5. Illinois (who cares, blue state)
6. Pennsylvania - Newt will win
7. Ohio - Newt will win
8 Michigan - Newt will win or place strong 2nd
9 Georgia - Newt will win
10. North Carolina - Newt will win

Iowa has lost it's cache. Their population is not a necessarily a barometer of true RED / CONSERVATIVE states which is what matters.

Go Newt!!!

40 posted on 12/29/2011 7:09:55 PM PST by show
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