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The Case for Gingrich’s Electability
weeklystandard.com ^ | 12/31/2011 | Jeffrey H. Anderson

Posted on 12/31/2011 7:30:28 AM PST by TBBT

It’s an article of faith among many Republicans that Mitt Romney is the most electable candidate in the GOP field. But it’s not clear that this assertion is actually true. In fact, if one were going to design a Republican opponent tailor-made to President Obama’s liking, that opponent would be uniquely vulnerable to Obama’s main rhetorical thrust (making class-warfare arguments), uniquely unsuited to take clear aim at Obama’s least popular action as president (spearheading the passage of Obamacare), and uniquely strong in states that are unlikely to matter in the general election race. In all three of these ways, Romney is made to order for Obama — while his chief rival, Newt Gingrich, is not.

None of this is to question Romney’s potential appeal to moderate voters. Nor is it to deny that Gingrich has more baggage and would be easier for Obama to try to vilify as a “conservative extremist.” But there is more to winning over moderates than simply running the most moderate candidate, and the truth is that no one really knows whether Romney or Gingrich would pose a more powerful electoral challenge to Obama.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; crybaby; freddiemac; gingrich; mustread; newt; newtgingrich; spoton; unstable
In the same vein... Obama vs. Generic Republican and Obama vs. Republican candidates are generally worthless at this point - for various obvious reasons. They serve as establishment/media tool to push one candidate of detract from another - nothing more.
1 posted on 12/31/2011 7:30:31 AM PST by TBBT
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To: TBBT

I’m not convinced there is any truth to the electability of Romney.


2 posted on 12/31/2011 7:36:27 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: TBBT

This article is spot on. If anyone is voting Romney because they believe he is most electable they are wrong. The one that Obama wants to run against the most is Romney, they have been working on this for over a year. The 99% vs. the 1%, ring a bell? Obama vs Romney, Obama wins.


3 posted on 12/31/2011 7:39:45 AM PST by david1313 (Newt all the way)
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To: TBBT
In fact, if one were going to design a Republican opponent tailor-made to President Obama’s liking, that opponent would be uniquely vulnerable to Obama’s main rhetorical thrust (making class-warfare arguments), uniquely unsuited to take clear aim at Obama’s least popular action as president (spearheading the passage of Obamacare), and uniquely strong in states that are unlikely to matter in the general election race. In all three of these ways, Romney is made to order for Obama — while his chief rival, Newt Gingrich, is not.

Exactly, times a million. Why do so many not understand that Romney will LOSE to Obama in 2012, precisely for reasons like this?
4 posted on 12/31/2011 7:43:11 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks TBBT.


5 posted on 12/31/2011 7:47:07 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Merry Christmas, Happy New Year! May 2013 be even Happier!)
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To: Utmost Certainty

You cant tall that type of stupid anything.

If you listen to the only people that go on camera in support of Mitt, they can barely articulate an actual reason to back him outside of how “electable” he looks.


6 posted on 12/31/2011 7:49:21 AM PST by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: david1313

Yeah. Since day one, Axelrod and Obama have schemed with the MSM to give Romney basically the kid gloves treatement.

Their nightmare one-on-one opponent: Huck, Pence, Newt, Rubio, Perry, Bachmann, Palin, or Ryan.

Let’s give them DOUBLE hell. Let’s give them Newt/Rubio!!


7 posted on 12/31/2011 7:50:21 AM PST by CainConservative ( Newt/Rubio 2012 with Cain, Bolton, Santorum, Perry, Watts, Duncan, & Bachmann in Newt's Cabinet)
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To: Jukeman
Romney is NOT electible. He cannot get the Republican voter base behind him ~ his best showing has been 23% in questionable polls biased in his favor.

If a Democrat wants Democrat policies he'll vote for the real thing ~ not a watered down Republican.

The proven technique is to HOLD YOUR PARTY'S BASE and PEEL OFF A FACTION FROM THE OTHER PARTY.

I've suggested that the best way to do this is to take an experienced and generally successful politician (e.g. a Gingrich) who has also been successful in business (e.g. a Gingrich ~ something like $120,000,000 in the bank) and see if he can attract a major Democrat faction.

Currently with only 55% of youth between 19 and 29 employed (and 45% UNEMPLOYED) that's the faction to tag.

The Democrats have nothing to attract unemployed young people just starting out in their careers. Holding a Wagu barbeque really isn't going to do it I'm so sure.

8 posted on 12/31/2011 7:52:49 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: david1313

Romney is the one the liberals want to run against and it isn’t because they think they can beat him, it’s because they don’t really care if they don’t...because he’s a liberal. If he gets the nomination, they’re in a win/not really lose too bad situation.


9 posted on 12/31/2011 7:55:18 AM PST by RC one (I will not vote for the gun grabbing, draft dodging, pro-choice, so called Republican Mitt Romney.)
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To: VanDeKoik

He does have great hair though, you have to admit. Bet he gets pedicures with John Kerry too.


10 posted on 12/31/2011 7:56:46 AM PST by RC one (I will not vote for the gun grabbing, draft dodging, pro-choice, so called Republican Mitt Romney.)
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To: TBBT
But there is more to winning over moderates than simply running the most moderate candidate,


11 posted on 12/31/2011 8:04:49 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: TBBT

The article point to the possibility of a reverse Bush v. Gore should Romney get the nomination. Because of Mitt’s appeal to some independents & Republican squishes, he may rack up enough votes in states that he would lose anyway - e.g., NY, MA, CA - to win the popular vote, while Obama gets 270 electoral votes & a 2nd term.


12 posted on 12/31/2011 8:05:21 AM PST by BCrago66
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To: Utmost Certainty

Yup!


13 posted on 12/31/2011 8:07:45 AM PST by CGalen
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To: muawiyah

Newt scares the bejeebers out of the left AND the establishment for a couple reasons. One, he knows where all the skeletons are buried, on the left and the right. Two, because of what they done to him back in the nineties... false ethics charges, misquotes, fake stories of divorce papers and deathbeds...having him achieve the power of the Presidency might be just the recipe for a little PAYBACK. I hope they wet themselves those backstabbing bastards.


14 posted on 12/31/2011 8:12:04 AM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: nathanbedford
If you won over all the "moderate democrats" and all the "moderate moderates" and the "moderate independents" and the "moderate republicans" you'd have about 15% of the vote and your opponent would have 85%.

For all practical purposes there are NO moderates. Never have been. Never will be.

15 posted on 12/31/2011 8:17:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Utmost Certainty
Why do so many not understand that Romney will LOSE to Obama in 2012, precisely for reasons like this?

That's nutz, a pile of dog shit could beat obummer in 2012 even with the whores and pimps of the msm kissing his halfrican, mooselimb, skinny ass for the rest of the year.

That miserable, slimy, corrupt, communist prick couldn't get re-elected in a one candidate race.

I'd have said what I really think about obummer, but I always feel more Christian on the eve of the New Year, and therefore will go gently on him.

FUBO

16 posted on 12/31/2011 8:20:01 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: TBBT

Romney saw all those polls that showed Obama losing to the “generic” Republican and decided to become that guy.

In fact that is all he is. A generic Republican. Nothing of distinction, no baggage, no long-held core principles other than a commitment to do whatever his advisors say he has to do to win (classic VC attitude)—poll-driven positions and poll-driven strategy.

What Mitt fails to understand is that Ronald Reagan did not win simply because he had good hair and a nice smile.


17 posted on 12/31/2011 8:33:35 AM PST by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: muawiyah

Quite true and well stated.


18 posted on 12/31/2011 8:34:40 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: TBBT

Unfortunately, any woman who has ever been cheated on is going to have to be a rock-ribbed conservative to pull the lever for Newt. For most, nothing else will matter.


19 posted on 12/31/2011 8:47:07 AM PST by jdub (A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.)
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To: USS Alaska
That's nutz, a pile of dog shit could beat obummer in 2012 even with the whores and pimps of the msm kissing his halfrican, mooselimb, skinny ass for the rest of the year.

That's a rosy assessment (lol), but overly optimistic IMO. There are too many bought off constituencies to make it an easy election. And if Republicans fail to offer a contrasting alternative to the status quo, they will absolutely lose. It's not like the public is that excited about the GOP—many increasingly blame them for the present situation, since they failed to deliver on what got them elected in '10. The way the situation is going, odds are that Republicans won't take the Senate, will lose the House, and get their ass handed to them by Obama in '12.
20 posted on 12/31/2011 8:49:17 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: Jukeman

yep, Romney is the LEAST electable of all the candidates currently running (well... execept for the lunatic Paul)

Romney would get destroyed just like McCain and for similiar reasons. Remember the press told us then that McCain was the most electable also :) I wonder why they would consistently pick the worst candidate for us? it’s almsot like they want the Democrat to win! *rolls eyes*


21 posted on 12/31/2011 8:51:45 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Gingrich/Palin 2012)
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To: muawiyah
yep, I agree there are no moderates, only people who can be persuaded to vote for either party by someone compelling.

And Romney like McCain, Dole, and a long list of losers is anything but compelling. Boring and dull come to mind.

22 posted on 12/31/2011 8:53:53 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Gingrich/Palin 2012)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Gee, it’s hard to believe the msm would have any reason to pick the worst candidate for the republican voters. My world is shattered. LOL.


23 posted on 12/31/2011 8:55:59 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: newheart

Romney - the generic loser.


24 posted on 12/31/2011 8:58:59 AM PST by Jukeman (God help us for we are deep in trouble.)
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To: CainConservative

They did the same thing in ‘08’ with McCain. Kid gloves, a lot of free air time before and during the primary, and long knives after the convention. I would bet money that Obama has at least a dozen ‘I lost my job because of Bain’ ads tee’d up ready to run as soon as Mitt wins.


25 posted on 12/31/2011 9:08:52 AM PST by redangus
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To: Jukeman
"I’m not convinced there is any truth to the electability of Romney"

Most of us don't see it either.

I can't see him beating hussein. The ObamaCare issue gets neutralized out of the gate with romney. After that, there'll be mormon bashing taken to absurd levels.

26 posted on 12/31/2011 9:19:39 AM PST by moehoward
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To: muawiyah

Who cares about moderates, it’s Independents that count. They are about 30% of the population, according to Rassmuseen. They’ve called 15,000/month since 2009 for the survey.


27 posted on 12/31/2011 10:09:10 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: Utmost Certainty
The way the situation is going, odds are that Republicans won't take the Senate, will lose the House, and get their ass handed to them by Obama in '12.

What kind of odds are you giving and how much are you prepared to wager, or is this just another of the many gum flappers that float in and out of FR, making statements and then, when called, run for the tall weeds.

28 posted on 12/31/2011 10:10:26 AM PST by USS Alaska (Nuke The Terrorist Savages)
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To: jdub
".. any woman who has ever been cheated on is going to have to be a rock-ribbed conservative to pull the lever for Newt. For most, nothing else will matter."

I agree. Most women will not trust a man who is determined to be a serial cheater.

29 posted on 12/31/2011 10:32:33 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: Jukeman
Good Article: 7 Reasons Why Mitt Romney's Electability is a Myth (John Hawkins)

http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2011/12/27/7_reasons_why_mitt_romneys_electability_is_a_myth/page/full/

30 posted on 12/31/2011 10:36:07 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You can't fix stupid but you can vote it out.)
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To: muleskinner
"Independent" is actually a status of registration ~ in Virginia since there is no registration by party that'd make us all "Independents" wouldn't it.

In reality, Independents are subject to the same political realities and districting mathematics as the rest of us. The greater polity cares little for your own attempts to classify or categorize yourself.

Active political life occurs within the frame work of parties, or internally within factions that themselves gravitate to the parties.

Our system of single member districts and first past the post election victories ensures that we will have ONLY TWO POLES OF REFERENCE.

If you are a pollster and you really want to see which way things are going you attempt to find out how your samples voted last time. You do that by stealth and trickery ~ just like you do it to discover brand preferences.

The business of political polling in multi-party Europe is probably just this side of Sisyphean ~ and there even the pollsters wait for the electoral results anxiously and are frequently surprised. They can detect only the broadest of movements.

But back to the Independents for a moment ~ they may well be free of direct party affiliation but they still live within the real world of organizations and natural classes that in their turn gravitate to the parties. Getting off the local party mailing lists does little to change your employment, religion, age, location, lifestyle, race, creed, color and so forth. Those factors continue to play an enormous part in how you will behave in the coming elections and there's not a whole lot you can do about it.

31 posted on 12/31/2011 10:37:09 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: jdub

Or, they may realize that Newt is just their kinda’ guy, who they’re attracted to, and try to pull that lever over and over and over.


32 posted on 12/31/2011 10:40:37 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Utmost Certainty
Most folks are brighter than that ~ they blame the current President for their current Predicament. Bush bashing can only go so far ~ and it obviously expired in 2010.

Obama is toast.

33 posted on 12/31/2011 10:43:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ez

“having him achieve the power of the Presidency might be just the recipe for a little PAYBACK”

You have articulated something I have wondered. Is all the negativism from some older members of congress a fear of retribution?

Personally, I don’t think Newt would shell out “payback”; it isn’t good politics and I trully think his “reformed” character would preclude it.

It is funny to watch the old timers squirm. Reminds me of the Bible verse (paraphrase) “the evil flee when no one is pursuing.”


34 posted on 12/31/2011 11:26:38 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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