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Tennessee woman shouldn't be punished for doing right thing with gun
Knoxville News Sentinel ^ | 1/3/12 | Editor

Posted on 01/03/2012 5:02:44 PM PST by SmithL

Free Meredith Graves!

Just about everyone in the country now knows about the Louisville, Tenn., woman who was arrested when she tried to check her gun at the 9/11 Memorial in New York City.

The nurse and medical student had driven to New York with her husband to interview for a residency at Brookhaven Memorial Hospital in Long Island. While in the Big Apple, they decided to do a little sightseeing.

Graves has a Tennessee handgun carry permit and had a loaded .32-caliber Kel-Tec in her purse. When she saw the no-guns symbol at the memorial, she asked a guard where to check her weapon and abruptly found herself under arrest and facing a 3½-year minimum sentence for violating New York's strict gun laws.

"She was being honest," Graves' mother-in-law, who lives in New Jersey, protested to the New York Post. "Everyone down there carries, and she just forgot."

The incident reinforces an array of silly stereotypes.

Graves, an educated professional, is cast in the role of an aw-shucking, dunderheaded hillbilly, down from the hollers where the folks all pack heat.

New York City, America's hometown during the Twin Towers tragedy, presents itself as an effete enclave where rampant fear and liberalism have gnawed to death all signs of common sense.

The risks are real, though.

(Excerpt) Read more at knoxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; US: New York; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: banglist; concealedcarry; nyc; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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To: bigheadfred

Now that’s not nice, seriously. Paying tribute to the scene of Americas worst Saracen terror attack is something all Americans should do. In theory the woman did the right thing. However she should have just not told the cops. I respect the police, especially the NYPD. I just don’t have any real respect for most of the rest of New Yorkers. Biggest bunch of con artists and cry babies in the world. And I’ve got a sister-in-law from Queens.


41 posted on 01/03/2012 7:12:42 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

What post?


42 posted on 01/03/2012 7:26:17 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: bimboeruption

No kidding!!!!


43 posted on 01/03/2012 7:28:43 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: elvis-lives
Someone should publish a pamphlet that outlines differences in laws and it should be distributed at Concealed Carry Permit classes.

The Concealed Carry Permit classes should hammer into the heads of their students that they need to know the current laws of any state or city they plan to visit.

The pamphlet would be good the day it was sent to the publisher, if it was correct.

Gun laws and reciprocity are changing all the time.

Your best bet is to check the NRA website for current conditions before traveling with a weapon.

44 posted on 01/03/2012 7:34:39 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: bigheadfred

“What post’’? I don’t get you? Do you mean ‘’what part,re my sister-in-law? Sunnyside.


45 posted on 01/03/2012 7:35:56 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa
I mean what part of any of my posts to which you may or may not be referencing. Not the sunnyside part of your SIL. No, I take that back. Does she REALLY have a sunnyside or do you speak out of fear abject terror? She is from Queens, afterall. ;-))
46 posted on 01/03/2012 7:43:51 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: SmithL

They should go easy on her.

A .32 is barely even a real gun.

47 posted on 01/03/2012 7:45:39 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> - - -)
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To: SmithL

This is why I won’t cross the river into IL from MO, and I will certainly never visit Chicago.


48 posted on 01/03/2012 7:58:09 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: bigheadfred

I was just commenting on the article about the Tenn. woman who did the ‘’right thing’’ about her gun-check but ended up doing the ‘’wrong thing’’ , so to speak. My SIL? “Jessica’’? Jesse’s a good kid and yeah, she is from Sunnyside, Greenpoint Ave, almost on the border with Brooklyn. She married one of my younger brothers. He works in Manhattan for a construction management firm.


49 posted on 01/03/2012 7:59:18 PM PST by jmacusa
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To: jmacusa

OOOHHHH. I thought there was something not nice I said...


50 posted on 01/03/2012 8:03:18 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: cayuga

Someone should publish a pamphlet that outlines differences in laws


Click on the link on Post #39 and get to the home page and on the right hand margin they are selling a book (I had the same thing a while back) for about 18 (which includes shipping). You can order online or mail in.
Title is “Travelers Guide to the Firearm Laws of the Fifty States”.


51 posted on 01/03/2012 8:08:46 PM PST by xrmusn ((6/98) EGOIST - A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. A. Bierce)
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To: Clock King

I read somewhere in the news about all the things that happened on January 1m that 40,000 new laws came into effect.

So now there are 40,000 new ways to become a criminal, many likely to vary from state to state so legislatively induced criminality is almost a certainty.


52 posted on 01/03/2012 8:09:36 PM PST by Postman (Cut, Cap and BBA)
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To: vetvetdoug

I agree on Few NNork....What did poor Aruba do??


53 posted on 01/03/2012 8:13:21 PM PST by Postman (Cut, Cap and BBA)
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To: smokingfrog

Over the years I’ve seen plenty of stories on FR about small caliber weapons successfully being used for defense. Sometimes with a dead attacker.


54 posted on 01/03/2012 8:24:43 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Paved Paradise
Huh? I bet you know the laws of all 50 states, right? Sheesh

I make sure I know the current laws of any state I'm going through or staying in. It's really not that hard to do.

If you need help, check the NRA website.

55 posted on 01/03/2012 8:28:13 PM PST by cayuga (The next Crusade will be a war of annihilation.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Well from what Goetz said, he did not appeal or contest the judgement because he wanted people to see how out of control liberalism was and is in New York city. He also said he has not paid a dime towards that which baffles me because I assume in all this time his failed assailants attorneys could have garnished his paycheck or done some other thing to get the money. The guy isn’t exactly poor, I remember he lived and may still live in a condo on 14th street in Manhattan which isn’t cheap in the least. I don’t know, I know he runs his own business called “Vigilante electronics” (believe it or not) and maybe somehow he has been able to hide his finances all this time although I can’t see how.


56 posted on 01/03/2012 10:20:39 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (I have a pet who's a pup that's why I call him puppet.)
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To: SmithL

Tennessee could insist before the Federal courts and the people of theses united States that the people of Tennessee have been injured by being denied full faith & credit in the State of New York.

The Tennessee State Legislator could even pass a resolution expressing the outrage of the people of Tennessee against the actions of the City & State of New York assaulting their rights of Full faith & credit.

Just to get attention the resolution might even suggest that unless their citizen is released & returned to to the safety & freedom of Tennessee. New Yorker in Tennessee may find themselves mired by a similar injustice.


57 posted on 01/03/2012 10:46:21 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: SmithL

Idiots! “Everyone down there carries.” Sheesh!


58 posted on 01/03/2012 11:10:06 PM PST by beckysueb
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To: Monorprise

You’re right in everything you said should happen and kudos for using the lower case “u” in “these united States (of America)”, the way it was originally meant to be. Now I know that there at least two of us who do that.


59 posted on 01/04/2012 12:11:24 AM PST by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
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To: beelzepug

“You’re right in everything you said should happen and kudos for using the lower case “u” in “these united States (of America)”, the way it was originally meant to be. Now I know that there at least two of us who do that”

I’m not sure it should happen at all, I said it could happen. To be honest I have half a mind to tell people to avoid the totalitarian State of New York. A general Boycott seems more fitting and respectfully of the need for diversity among the states.

The only thing I’m sure of is that the Tennessee woman should not be serving 4 years in jail for something that is perfectly permitted in her own state. They should at least give her the option of being banished from the state of New York.

I would be impressed to Tennessee work bring their citizen home & defend their Full Faith & credit rights.
New York’s acts is after all without a doubt an assault on Tennessee’s Full Faith & credit rights under the Federal Constitution. An assault if successful that would brave major economic & political consequences for the people & state of Tennessee(along with everyone else) were it to stand.

The veiled threat against New Yorkers in Tennessee is more of a statement of reality then a threat. If new York can disregard Tennessee licenses and arrest people on that ground then so too can Tennessee disregard New York’s.

Tennessee as a State has many options in defending their rights. Were I a Tennessean I would consider pressing my legislator & govern to exercise them options in the more active defense of Tennesseans & Tennessee sovereignty.

There is much that can be done, it is up to the people & state of Tennessee to do it. Just know that by defending their rights they are defending the rights of all Americans.


60 posted on 01/04/2012 1:01:20 AM PST by Monorprise
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