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Police kill armed 8th-grader in Texas school
CBS News ^ | January 4, 2012 | CBS/AP

Posted on 01/04/2012 1:40:07 PM PST by QT3.14

Police shot and killed an armed eighth-grader who "engaged" officers in the main hallway of his middle school on Wednesday, the South Texas school district said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: arth; banglist; firearm; publicschool
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To: QT3.14
Prayers for all is right!

This just breaks my heart!
41 posted on 01/04/2012 2:53:30 PM PST by AKA Elena (St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Talisker

“But let’s drop the pretense of cops having anything other than military training or intent.”

Having been an eyewitness to a similar situation (perp with a gun confronted by multiple cops) I can say the “drop the gun” is just a pro forma statement before the cops start blasting away. The kid had about a second to drop it before they started firing.


42 posted on 01/04/2012 2:54:48 PM PST by lodi90
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To: QT3.14
When I clicked on the link you provided, I found this little gem:

Boy throws rocks at cars, shot by crossbow

Just thought I'd share.

43 posted on 01/04/2012 2:56:47 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I barely remember hearing anything like that, but before ever-present cameras and cell phones, enough money could shut things like that up and whisk them under the radar. Several of my family members are reluctant residents of Austin due to their jobs-nothi8ng in Austin surprises...


44 posted on 01/04/2012 2:58:00 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

Oops! “Nothing”


45 posted on 01/04/2012 2:58:57 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: QT3.14

Without going to the SeeBS website, let me make a guess: the eighth grader was 14-15 years old, adult sized and raised in the thug culture.


46 posted on 01/04/2012 3:03:55 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: QT3.14

I bet it was one of Eric Holder’s “Fast and Furious” handguns! Next kid will probably bring an AK to hose them down.


47 posted on 01/04/2012 3:05:38 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: dragnet2
Yep, according to that, and other reports, the kid never fired his weapon.

If the kid had the gun in a position to fire, should he have been allowed to shoot first?.....Just asking since the article never said.

48 posted on 01/04/2012 3:06:08 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Naugahyde is no longer available due to the Naugas being hunted to extinction.....)
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To: Talisker

Only a fool doesn’t shoot to kill the instant someone points a gun at them.


49 posted on 01/04/2012 3:08:26 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Talisker
The police responded to a call that someone was in the halls with a firearm.

They went to the school, searched the halls and came across this kid with a hand gun.

The reports I have heard say that they instructed him clearly to put the wepaon down, but that he did not and instead, that he pointed the weapon at them.

In that case, the officers did exactly as they should. You do not wait for someone to bring the gun all the way up and squeeze off a round or more at you and your fellow officers.

Deadly intent is presumed when someone begins to raise a firearm and point it at you. To do otherwise means you might be the one who gets shot.

If this is the case, the police acted appropriately and tragically, the young man was killed. But he was the one in the wrong and representing a deadly threat to others. IMHO, it would have been more tragic for a policee officer, perhaps with wife and kids to be killed, or another innocent student to be killed.

50 posted on 01/04/2012 3:12:46 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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“During a Wednesday press conference, police revealed the weapon Gonzalez was carrying was a pellet gun.”

http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=703800


51 posted on 01/04/2012 3:18:09 PM PST by RGVTx
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To: RGVTx

More from the same report:

“Police radio traffic obtained by Action 4 News reveals that the eighth grade student was shot in the chest and the back of the head.”

http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=703800


52 posted on 01/04/2012 3:22:26 PM PST by RGVTx
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To: An American!

Three shots - three hits?? Must be Texas...

If it had been NYC, it would have been 135 shots for three hits...

Just sayin’....


53 posted on 01/04/2012 3:29:02 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Talisker
He was surrounded. They couldn't have tried something just a little more sophisticated than yell "drop it" and then blow him away? Hell why risk anything at all? Why not just evacuate the school and call in an airstrike? But let's drop the pretense of cops having anything other than military training or intent.

Too bad the kid got shot, but cops are trained to shoot to kill. Who is going to take the time to get close enough to tase him? Not me. What if the tase misses, will the kid/suspect take hostages, etc.

Cops will avoid being target practice whenever possible.

The only thing that could have helped here would have been bean bags from a shotgun or whatever. Of course to use that, would require having good cover and be close enough to effectively hit the kid.

54 posted on 01/04/2012 3:29:51 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: RGVTx
“During a Wednesday press conference, police revealed the weapon Gonzalez was carrying was a pellet gun.” Action 4 News reveals that the eighth grade student was shot in the chest and the back of the head.”

Uh oh.

55 posted on 01/04/2012 3:31:59 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hot Tabasco

See #54


56 posted on 01/04/2012 3:35:21 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Uh oh nothing. All that means is that his Darwin Award is confirmed.


57 posted on 01/04/2012 3:36:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Cowgirl of Justice

I side with the latter, but losing a child is terrible under any circumstances. The odd part of these gang areas is that “children” (or “teens/youths/underage” in the Lefty media) are many times hardened criminals by middle school.

This isn’t Mayberry with Little League, church socials and lemonade stands, this is a Narco State gone wild across our border.


58 posted on 01/04/2012 3:37:33 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: dragnet2

Wanna bet that only beanbags will be allowed to be used in schools from now on?

And look for Big Sis to put TSA in schools now.


59 posted on 01/04/2012 3:38:21 PM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: TigersEye
That means every anti-cop commie and attorney can second guess with comments like, "He only had a pellet gun, and the cops shot the kid in back of the head....Did they shoot him in the back of the head first?...Why did they have to shoot him so many times"? and on and on.

Heard it all before, many times. This should be of no surprise to those paying attention.

60 posted on 01/04/2012 3:43:29 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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