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1 posted on 01/09/2012 10:26:32 AM PST by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

It would be nice to see SCOTUS take the case, rule against the EPA and hold the person who chose to make the decision personally responsible for any expenses this couple became saddled with in order to protect their property.


2 posted on 01/09/2012 10:30:55 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: WilliamIII

But, what does the Wise Latina from the Bronx think?


3 posted on 01/09/2012 10:33:03 AM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: WilliamIII

well at least there is one sane member of the SCOTUS.. Is there 4 more?

Who pays this couples legal fees if they win?


4 posted on 01/09/2012 10:33:14 AM PST by cableguymn (Good thing I am a conservative. Otherwise I would be forced to support Mittens like Republicans do.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


5 posted on 01/09/2012 10:33:27 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: WilliamIII

Then the SCOTUS should bitch-slap EPA back to the stone age.


6 posted on 01/09/2012 10:35:26 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: WilliamIII

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9 posted on 01/09/2012 10:38:10 AM PST by GOP Poet
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10 posted on 01/09/2012 10:40:50 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: WilliamIII

The EPA is an anti american fascist organization that needs to be completely defunded and dismantled with all employees blacklisted and deported after serving 10 to 20 years in a federal penitentiary at hard labor.


13 posted on 01/09/2012 10:46:29 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: WilliamIII

Don’t mess with the Sacketts. Just ask the Higgins!


15 posted on 01/09/2012 10:49:25 AM PST by WSGilcrest (/s)
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To: WilliamIII

My parents property in Washington state was starting to get “wetlands-like” in a one acre area. They quietly had it filled in.

These are the same parents that, when they had a home available for rent in the 1960’s told me that if someone called who sounded black, I was to say it was already rented. I was in 6th grade at the time and “aware enough toask them why. They said, and I paraphrase: If we get deadbeat white tenants, we can kick them out, but if we get deadbeat black tenants we’re stuck with them.

It is funny how the government controls the activity of its citizens in so many “unintended consequences” sort of ways.


16 posted on 01/09/2012 10:49:52 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: WilliamIII
From SCOTUSBlog today:

A weak defense of EPA Analysis

With a federal government lawyer conceding almost every criticism leveled at the way the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency compels landowners to avoid polluting the nation’s waterways, the Supreme Court on Monday seemed well on its way toward finding some way to curb that agency’s enforcement powers. Their task was made easier as Deputy U.S. Solicitor General Malcolm L. Stewart stopped just short of saying that EPA was just as heavy-handed as its adversaries — and several of the Justices — were saying.

Perhaps the most telling example: when several of the Justices expressed alarm that a homeowner targeted by EPA’s efforts might face a penalty of as much as $37,500 each day of alleged violation, Stewart made it clear that the fine actually might be doubled, to $75,000 a day, although he tried to recover by saying that was only “theoretical,” and that he did not think that EPA had ever taken that step.

The argument in Sackett, et al., v. EPA (docket 10-1062) did not appear to portend a slam-dunk loss for EPA during the first half of Monday’s argument, when the lawyer for an Idaho couple faced quite rigorous questioning about whether the couple had exercised options that might have been open to them to avert the dire consequences of EPA enforcement. But the tenor of the session changed abruptly as soon as the line of argument chosen by EPA’s lawyer, Stewart, unfolded.

It all came to something of an explosive verbal climax when Justice Samuel A. Alito, Jr., suggested that the scheme that Stewart had outlined would be considered by the ordinary homeowner as something that “can’t happen in the United States.” Alito ticked off the situation: the homeowner planned to build a house on a lot, the lot was found to have “a little drainage problem,” the homeowner was soon told by EPA that “you have wetlands,” that steps had to be taken to alleviate the environmental threat, that “you have to let us on your premises,” that every day “you face $75,000 in penalties,’ that the homeowner cannot go to court to make a challenge, and that, if there is a court case, it won’t occur “until we choose.”

Stewart did not dispute the recitation even in that accusatory fashion, and could only answer that such an order from EPA would not have been “the first communication” from EPA to the homeowner, since the agency would try earlier to alert property owners of their obligations under the law.

(NOTE TO READERS: This post will be expanded following the afternoon argument.)

17 posted on 01/09/2012 10:52:27 AM PST by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: WilliamIII

All the more reason to help Newt defeat The Messiah in November.


24 posted on 01/09/2012 11:04:21 AM PST by Flint
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To: WilliamIII

I still can’t believe the EPA cares about a freaking half-acre lot. Even in their twisted world.


25 posted on 01/09/2012 11:04:33 AM PST by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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27 posted on 01/09/2012 11:13:29 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: WilliamIII

Does anyone know how long it takes for a transcript of oral arguments to be posted?


39 posted on 01/09/2012 12:17:19 PM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: WilliamIII
Who's next?

Another map Here. Let's see, all of Florida, Minnesota, Louisiana, Wisconsin, Michigan, Alabama and parts of many other states.

"Hi, I'm from the EPA, and I'm here to inform you your property is inhabiting a wetland as designated by the US government. You will be hearing from our attorneys."

Remember in November. . .

68 posted on 01/09/2012 6:13:33 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: WilliamIII

Another fucking Obama rat abandoning the “ship of fools”.


72 posted on 01/10/2012 1:06:15 AM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: WilliamIII

The situation is similar (but not matching) to Kelo, which was a terrible decision for SCOTUS. Wonder how they’d be able to rule against Kelo, but for these citizens.


80 posted on 01/10/2012 11:18:32 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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