Skip to comments.Liberalism is a Psychology
Posted on 01/09/2012 2:16:47 PM PST by ventanax5
Many conservatives are absolutely perplexed by the question of what motivates liberals to take the patently wrong political positions they do. Its difficult to explain it without believing such obviously wrong ideas like liberals are just stupid, or they want to destroy our country, but sometimes we resort to those explanations out of pure frustration.
But what is the explanation? Why do seemingly good, intelligent people take positions that cause so much harm in the face of all the facts? Ive finally stumbled upon the answer, and its so stunningly simple, yet profound in its implications, that its absolutely mind-boggling. Liberalism isnt a political ideology; its a psychology - the psychology of self-satisfaction to be precise.
A liberal (or a leftist; I use the terms interchangeably), is a person who only cares about politics to the extent that doing so makes him or her feel good, or avoid feeling bad, due both to external and internal factors. Their motivations can include things like a desire to feel intelligent, moral, noble, or unique, as well as a desire for peer acceptance or reverence, and aversion to being ostracized, among many other things.
Now, before I go any further, I have to draw a distinction between liberals and the people who agree with them. Liberals, the people Im referring to throughout, are the activists and ideologues; the people who truly believe in their leftist ideas and who fight for them.
People who simply agree with the real liberals on some given issue on the other hand, are not generally the people Ill be referring to.
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It's a pathology.
Damn! Beat me to it.
Oh, so they are just selfish and evil.
The article is right-on. It is *crucial* to understand what this article is saying.
In order to defeat Liberalism, we must understand it. Why are Liberals so irrational? Why do they behave in such a controlling manner? Why do people — especially Hollywood types and academics — become Liberals?
It is a Psychology, but I often think it’s innate. There are exceptions, but you can often (not always) tell who is a Liberal just by looking at them.
Again, in order to defeat Liberalism, we must understand it. Once we understand it, we can begin to reason with the fringes and bring them over to our side and we can prevent kids from being brainwashed into it.
A defining characteristic of leftists is that they are arrogant enough to think they can plan others lives, and insecure enough to think they need to. They are hungry for power over others, because only with unlimited power will they think they are "safe".
The worst are the leftists who are smart, because their intelligence makes them think they are intelligent ENOUGH to rule over others.
I’m not sure the evidence rules out the “Stupid” and “They hate the country” theories entirely.
Well, it's true that you can't get enough of Thomas Sowell, but you relaay ought to attribute your ideas!
(Aimed at the author, not the poster)
It is a psychosis!
They are hungry for power over others...
because they have no power over themselves.
Actually I’d say much of the article is bunk.
I know plenty of lefties from college and they are not motivated in the way this guy describes. Maybe there are example to which his description is apt, but I really doubt it is the majority or a really significant portion.
Most of the lefties I know are convinced that their methods do work, and that corporations are evil. The main factors which convince the Left to do what they do are:
A) the conviction that we are in a zero sum game
B) the idea that marketing is essentially mind control, and that because of this government must restrain corporations or they will run roughshod over people.
These are the things I consistently see when I argue with lefties as the fundamentals of why they fail to understand the world for what it really is.
Sure, there are likely some puffins who are what this guy describes, but this is just the preening Hollywood left rather than the actual thinking left of Academia or the bar.
My tag line says what I think it is.
Mr. Beltt goes on to say that; “...it is psychology of self-satisfaction.”
This is Narcissism...specifically NPD (when it’s in full bloom).
Note these diagnostic criteria for Narcissistic Personality DISORDER:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
3. Believes that he or she is “special” and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
4. Requires excessive admiration
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
8. Is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Every one of these can be attributed to liberals, with countless examples for every point supplied here daily on FR.
Having only 7 qualifies for a clinical diagnosis. (fewer = narcissistic “tendencies”)
In 2004, Mr. Beltt got it as “psychology”.
we know they’re disordered.
- what causes it (abandonment, abuse)
and the compensatory behaviors to deal with such;
- the creation of two polar opposite and FALSE self-images
1. the abused, “I’m a POS”, Stockholm Syndrome, Bradshaw’s ‘toxic shame’ - self, that must be hidden at all costs,
replaced with/compensated with
2. the skittle-pooping unicorn that appears on the outside.
Often, co-morbid with other personality disorders. Taking 0 for instance;
- coke-snorting drug abuse
Narcissists can be confusing, because they’re all bright and skippy on the outside, but rotten on the inside. We knew this about 0 from the beginning. Too many others did not.
liberal vs conservative nowdays boils down to romantic vs classic thought.
The romantic mind views the world and life as a series of good and bad sensations and stimuli that effect the individual...and the amount of pleasure is dependent on selecting the correct sensations.
The classic mind views the world as a series of problems or puzzles to be solved and pleasure comes from success in solving them.
The classic mind thrives in robust and challenging environments that are full of possibilities, while the romantic mind thrives in mild garden-of-eden-like environments. Southern france, hawaii, spain, the california coast...these are places where one finds the romantic mind. Denmark, norway, scotland, american midwest...this is where the classic mind flourishes.
The classic mind toils and derives pleasure from toil and is less interested in feedback of others. The romantic mind craves constant feedback of others.
I believe liberalism begins with the phrase “everything(!) is morally relative”. All liberals I know think this way. They don’t believe in moral “truths”. I even had an engineer “feel” that mathematics wasn’t really real, it was just some “man made” thing. There were no “truths” to him. They really think they can just “replace your reality with my own”, as though it is equally valid regardless of how crazy the thought is.
If you think about it, people thinking like that have no ability to judge one set of behavior from another - from a moral point of view. It becomes a convenient means of embracing ones own desires, rejecting traditional morality and convincing themselves that their behavior is ok.
This is why they *hate* Christianity. It is too much of a “bright light” of truth that forces them to think about what they don’t wish to admit to themselves. They’d rather stay in the dark.
If they were to conclude that there are real “moral truths” that exist their belief system would collapse - which is why they viciously attack them.
Seriously, ask a liberal “where do morals come from?” - most will respond “from stupid religious dogma” (or similar). They’ve no idea that they came from understanding innate truths about our behavior - regardless of religious doctrine (although that’s WHY religion deals with morality, it injects these concepts into each new generation, which we’re losing because of liberalism).
The interesting part is, the more (modern progressive) liberal a society becomes, the more it exposes itself as self-destructive. Unfortunately, it has to get to a crazy level before the masses will see it.
...the thinking left....oxymoron anyone?...or the bar...put this out there, and have sold their souls to the ideas (that seem palatable) for purely financial reasons.
They cynically butter their bread with reality denying obfuscations and explanations.
They’ve built careers and money on their falsehoods.
Bottom line, despite their so-called “thinking”, they still deny reality.
Ask yourself...what is the behavior you usually observe in those who deny reality?
The greater the denial, the greater the compensatory behavior.
Their hypocrisy is the tribute the lies of their lives pay to virtue.
I do know people on the left who are, politics aside, pretty damned smart.
If it were not for some very delusional key assumptions they use in approaching social problem solving and economics, they would likely come to rational(conservative) solutions.
I was merely trying to point out the key assumptions that I have witnessed among people who I know are smarter then their politics would indicate.
Though I very well could have put quotes around thinking and alleviated the whole problem.
bump for later.
A great list written during the Clinton admin......I forgot who compiled it but he’s right——liberalism is a dangerous cult with clout with 3 gods which are gubbermint, genitalia, and global warming.
1. At the most basic level, the liberal is an adolescent forever in search of a world without moral consequence.
2. Freedom from moral consequence can only be secured by a collectivist, totalitarian state.
3. The liberal religion reveres the twin gods of genitals and government, and is overseen by a priesthood of psychologists.
4. “Freedom” to the liberal is strictly freedom of the genitals.
5. All non-sexual individual freedoms are despised by the liberal because they demand moral responsibility.
6. The fundamental power struggle of the liberal is individual v. collective. The individual must be relieved of all power in favor of the collective.
7. Individualism demands moral responsibility. Collectivism hopes to eliminate the need for moral responsibility.
8. The U.S. Constitution - specifically the individualistic Bill of Rights - is the enemy of the liberal.
9. The liberal despises the United States because it is the premier gaurantor and promoter of individualism in the world.
10. All institutions and concerns - schools, environment, courts, etc. - serve no relevant purpose other than the promotion of collectivism.
11. Abortion is necessary to gaurantee genital freedom and eliminate moral consequence.
12. The basis of psychology is the elimination of moral responsibility.
13. The liberal must create an atmosphere of crisis and fear to justify collectivist oppression.
14. Any religious person who believes or promotes moral consequence is the enemy of the liberal and must be oppressed.
15. Despite decades of spectacular failure, the liberal clings to the collectivist dream because it is far more than a theory of government. It is a religion.
17. The liberal seeks to dominate any institution which can weaken or destroy individual parental rights - public schools, child abuse agencies, pediatric associations, etc..
18. The liberal applauds the imprisoning of homeschooling parents who dare to raise their children outside the control of collectivist public schools.
19. Private ownership of guns is the single greatest symbol of individual power, and therefore despised.
20. All individual freedoms demand the responsible behaviour of the individual, and therefore demand a moral code. Liberals despise freedom because they despise morality.
21. The liberal loves Bill Clinton because of who he is, not in spite of who he is.
22. The liberal despises national sovereignty which protects individual freedoms.
23. The liberal promotes international governments (UN, EU, etc.) which seek to destroy individualism protected by sovereign states.
24. The liberal fears any hint of individualism in any part of the world, and is obsessed with the centralized control of all human activity and thought.
25. “Multi-culturalism” is the code world for a single, oppressive, collectivist culture.
26. Liberals speak often of tolerance, but only tolerate liberals.
27. The liberal seeks to criminalize any speech which promotes morality or individualism as “hate speech”.
28. Environmentalists lie as a matter of course.
29. The liberal’s only method of debate is to insult and discredit anyone who dares to disagree.
30. When possible, liberals opress anyone who questions their beliefs.
31. Liberals despise all innocence - especially the innocence of a child.
32. Liberals seek the sexualization of children and the normalization of pedophilia, all in the pursuit of genital freedom.
33. In the liberal mind, your freedom is their oppression.
34. Private property and individual wealth is integral to individualism, and the enemy of the liberal.
35. The liberal hates you.
36. The liberal seeks to replace a moral world view with an emotional world view.
37. The liberal typically chooses a career which produces nothing of value - lawyer, bureaucrat, “activist”, etc. - and uses government to extract the wealth of others.
38. Liberal programs enrich liberals and do little to help the poor.
39. The liberal despises masculinity as a symbol of individual power.
40. Feminists groups are about lesbianism and socialism, not equal rights for women.
41. Liberals are perfectly willing to destroy you financially, remove your children, and imprison you for what you believe.
42. Liberals fear technology and change - because neither can be centrally controlled.
43. Liberals are not obsessed with sex, but with promiscuity. Promiscuity is the dominant theme of the liberal media culture.
44. Liberals despise the suburbs as a manifestation of individual prosperity, private property ownership, and the family.
45. Liberals despise marriage and family because they are institutions which frown on promiscuity.
46. Liberals despise the automobile as a symbol of individual freedom and power.
47. Liberals seek to control public schools, and force all children into them, in order to foster promiscuity and collectivist ideology in children.
48. Other diseases kill millions more, but liberals are obsessed with Aids because it is a moral consequence of promiscuity.
49. Liberals are more committed than conservatives because their politics is also their religion.
50. Liberal activities are all about ego - to demonstrate “I care more than you do” without really helping anyone.
51. Whenever a liberal expresses concern “for the children”, they are using and targeting children to expand promiscuity, collectivism, and their own pocketbooks and egos.
52. Because collectivist politics is their only morality, liberals have no problem with deceit, oppression, or violence in their pursuit of collectivism.
53. Liberals are elitests who exempt themselves from the oppressive rules they impose on the general population.
54. Liberals howl if a transvestite or convicted felon is even slightly offended, but openly bash Christians.
55. Liberals dream of a return to a centralized, 1940’s urban environment. We all ride the bus from a small, dirty, big city apartment to an 8-5 union job.
56. Liberals believe that wealth is static - anyone who makes money must be stealing it from someone else.
57. Liberals claim to be against violence, but makes excuses for liberals like Castro who torture political dissidents.
58. Liberals have enormous compassion for criminal predators, but little for the victims.
59. Animal Rights activists despise humanity.
60. Liberals believe that passing religious values to children is a form of child abuse.
61. Liberals use moralistic tones and catch-phrases like “social justice”, but their only moral is the accumulation of power
62. Liberals ideologies tend inevitably towards world-wide totalitarianism.
63. Liberals are never satisfied with the power they have gained over the lives of individuals - they must control every thought and detail of human activity.
64. In the liberal world, all problems stem from individualism, and all solutions are collective.
65. Liberals are humourless bores.
66. Bill Clinton raped Juanita Broaderick. Liberals don’t care.
67. Bill Clinton used the IRS to oppress conservative political speech. Liberals admire him for it.
68. Scientists are obsessed with “life on other planets” to confirm the full theory of evolution. The alternative terrifies them.
69. Liberals are forever in search of a religion (New Age, pagan, Unitarianism, etc.) which smiles on promiscuity.
70. Liberals despise the Pope because he refuses to compromise on abortion, birth control, and divorce. All three positions discourage promiscuity.
71. Better that millions of Africans die in the agony of AIDS, and fortunes wasted on cures that don’t work, than one liberal breath discouraging promiscuity.
72. A full-time mother enrages a liberal.
73. Liberals admire the Chinese forced abortion policy.
74. Twenty years after spectacularly successful airline deregulation, liberals still whine about it because they are obessed with collectivism, and they are elitests who don’t like flying with the middle class.
75. Human life is cheap in the liberal world.
76. Liberals are Puritans - pompous, uptight, and legalistic. They crave a bland, monotholic culture where dissent is oppressed by criminal law.
77. Liberals cannot conceive of a solution to a problem which does not involve government.
78. Hillary’s Village is a totalitarian state.
79. The EU is all about socialism.
80. Given the chance, liberals would ban the Bible as “hate speech”.
81. Liberals view humans as monetary objects without moral motivation (welfare, etc.) , but view inaminate objects (guns, profits, etc.) in exclusively moral terms.
82. The Third Way is a new shade of lipstick on the same old socialist pig.
83. In Hillary’s Village, parents are the child-rearing problem, not the solution.
84. Liberals supported the return of Elian Gonzalez because they admire Castro’s collectivist island prison.
85. Michal Jackson is a paedophile. The liberal media admire him.
86. Liberals despise the death penalty as the ultimate statement of moral and individual responsibility.
87. Anyone who criticizes any aspect of homosexuality is hysterically accused of “homophobia” and “latent homosexuality”.
88. Environmentalists have are all about socialism.
89. Modern art is obsessed with hatred for morality and Christianity.
90. The majority of US universities despise intellectual freedom.
91. Liberals are obsessed with the elimination of risk because risk is integral to freedom and personal responsibility.
92. Liberals create child abuse witchhunts, and often send innocent parents to prison in child abuse cases, to justify their destruction of parental rights.
93. Liberal bureaucrats oppress conservatives and Christians whenever possible.
94. Liberals are nasty, violent thugs.
95. Better thousands of women die in the agony of breast cancer, than one liberal breath revealing the link between breast cancer and abortion.
96. A liberal would sooner pull out his own teeth with a pair of pliers than cut a tax.
97. Liberals have never really given up on Marx.
98. Pedophilia is a big part of homosexual culture.
99. Liberals dream of a massive network of government social workers who control individual families in detail.
100. The goal of the United Nations is world-wide totalitarianism.
101. The primary tool of environmentalism is paranoia based on falsehood.
102. Like the modern liberal, Hitler was a socialist, not a fascist.
103. Liberals crave the kind of Gestapo “Zero-tolerance” society seen in modern public schools.
104. The liberal worships appetite and disdains self-discipline.
105. The liberal is an intolerant, narrow-minded, thug.
106. The liberal end of bigger government justifies any means - including lies, deception, corruption, and violence.
107. The national media is an extension of the Democrat party, and relentlessly liberal.
108. For the liberal, “bi-partisan” means being more liberal.
109. Animal Rights and Environmental “activists” are more about hatred of humanity than love of nature.
110. The liberal’s favorite play, “The Vagina Monologues”, glorifies child rape and pedophilia, among other perversions.
111. Global warming has everything to do with socialism and nothing to do with environment.
112. The Great Society has destroyed the poor.
113. Homeschooling mothers enrage liberals.
114. Liberals secretly applaud the selling of nuclear secrets to China.
115. The level of truth can be measured by the howling of the liberal press.
116. No creature on earth is more pompous than a network TV “journalist”.
117. American liberals are embarassed by American success and freedom. Foreign liberals envy it.
118. Hillary’s Village will be chock full of Soviet-style gulags.
119. The WNBA is all about lesbianism.
120. Better that millions of children be emotionally scarred, then one liberal breath against the divorce culture so vital to liberal promiscuity.
121. To the liberal, fathers are an unnecessary and mostly dangerous appendage to marriage and parenting.
122. Feminists believe that men are inherently evil.
123. Liberals believe that children derive no real benefit from married parents.
124. Liberals believe that children must have sex as soon as they are physically able - because they are physically able.
125. Global warming is all about hatred of capitalism.
126. The American Medical Association, National Academy of Sciences, and many other “scientific” organizations are liberal pipe-organs who put politics over science.
127. Liberals are elitests who despise Walmart because it so successfully serves the suburban and small-town middle-class.
128. Anything middle class enrages a liberal.
129. Feminists believe that lesbianism is the only acceptable lifestyle for a woman.
130. Liberals are continually angry because their promiscuous, government-obsessed lives are an empty bore.
131. In the public school system, liberals seek an American version of the Hitler Youth - universal political and cultural indoctrination into a rabid devotion to the collective. Hence, their hatred of homeschooling.
132. Gary Condit embodies the serial promiscuity that liberals crave.
133. Environmentalists are pagans.
134. Even though they make less money, Hollywood liberals make mostly R-rated movies to promote and justify their obsession with promiscuity.
135. Europeans hate George Bush because he bucks their dream of global governence.
136. Homosexuals are increasingly having unprotected sex because they value promiscuity over human life - even their own.
137. Pro-abortion liberals value promiscuity over human life.
138. Liberal globalists fear the power of America with an effective missile defence.
139. Liberals have tormented black families with a three-pronged attack - the drug culture, the sexual revolution, and the welfare state.
140. So-called “child protective” agencies collect Federal bounties for every child they remove and adopt out. Their primary agenda is the projection of power and left-wing politics.
141. North Korea is the end-game of liberalism.
142. The National Organization for Women is a twisted collection of men-hating lesbians.
143. Social science “research” is about liberal snouts deep in the Federal trough.
144. The “Durban Race Conference” illuminated the obsessive racism of liberals.
145. As the Nazi hates the Jew, so the liberal hates the Christian.
146. Liberals believe that evil is the absence of government control.
147. The liberal and the Taliban share a common hatred for freedom and Christianity.
148. Secular humanism is a religion which degenerates inevitably into paganism.
149. The liberal hates Israel because it a glaringly successful capitalist democracy in a sea of Arab oppression.
150. The liberal admires the centralized oppression of the Arab world.
151. There are two types of liberals: those who believe they are entitled to rule (i.e. the Clintons), and those who which to be ruled (i.e. soccer moms).
152. Liberal soccer moms believe that collectivist oppression will grant them “security”.
153. Liberals desire mass immigration to garner the votes for a socialists state.
154. Any attempt to discuss immigration is met with liberal howls about “racism”.
155. Palestinians will not rest until Israel is destroyed and every Jew is dead.
156. Islam is bent on world domination by any means available.
157. Clinton’s greatest legacy is politics devoid of principle.
158. Catholic clergy pedophilia correlates directly with Catholic clergy homosexuality.
159. Liberals will eventually seek to normalize teacher-student sex.
160. Liberals despise single sex schools which discourage promiscuity and weaken Federal control.
Narcissists can be smart, no doubt about it, FRiend.
That’s part of what’s so confusing to normals.
No problem with your post, we are here to help the hell out of each other.
Here’s what we are dealing with, plain and simple...
Liberals believe killing not-yet-born children is a right.
Great list. Thanks!
Number 16 is missing.
Do you happen to know what it is?
I know a perfectly nice female attorney who absolutely goes insane when you talk about politics. She immeidately jumps from not liking an administration policy to that means you “hate” the person at the top.
I said, I don’t like this “policy”, I am not indicating whether or not I like the people personally. Isn’t our whole form of government based on freedom to believe and express one’s beliefs as one’s conscience directs? Sheesh
It’s a mental illness
“bright and skippy on the outside?”
I knwo some really nasty narcissists, they are definitely not bright and skippy. they can make one feel a murderous rage or give one an instant headache though
They’re probably borderlines (BPD) or anti-socials (APD).
Not to “pathologize” every thing, either, but just for differentiating purposes...to help US better understand, that’s really the main point of these types of analyses, for truly,
it CAN be said that they’re ALL (the disordered) just ‘bad people’, jerks (& worse appellations), toxic...’things’, to be avoided.
You’ve made an interesting point though, it makes me re-direct my thinking a bit, and I appreciate it.
Instead of ‘going on’ about how libs are like Narcissists, they may actually be more like borderlines.
One of the differentials is ‘glib, superficial charm’ (for N’s). It’s one of the differentials counselors use to diagnose. It’s funny too, because experienced counselors will say; NPD ‘feels’ like *this*,
and BPD ‘feels’ like *that*...
(proving what we already know, that it’s not an ‘exact’ science, right?)..
But YOUR point, about the LACK of such ‘charm’ in these headache-inducing pseudo-people, is actually a closer, clearer, and BETTER description of most libs. They’re a humorless bunch, after all!
Thanks for the food for thought!
My take on the whole thing:
A conservative thinks it’s dangerous to ride a bike without a helmet, so he wears a helmet.
A liberal thinks it’s dangerous to ride a bike without a helmet, so he fights to get a law passed requiring all people to wear helmets when riding a bike.
First thing I thought of as well. Well, that, and Savage’s dictum that “Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.”
anytime........I just need to stay away from people like that.