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Posted on 01/09/2012 6:12:43 PM PST by Nachum
“This bozo, whether he is an R or a D, should care deeply!”
Well, but he does care about the natural born citizen issue, if you read the whole thing, and he said he would continue to pursue this through the general election.
And I’m pretty sure by all his statements that he DOES care, but as we all know, the issue of where he was really born (or whether he was born in the U.S. at least) will have to be proven, backed up by concrete evidence. Also, his credibility is much better with the public in general by not getting tagged as a “birther”.
Sometimes we have to pick our battles if we want a hope of winning in the end.
On the ‘Kenya, East Africa’....
The region was called Kenya for a few years before it actually gained independence. And I believe some of BHO Seniors document reference ‘Kenya’.
What they do not reference is ‘Kenya, East Africa’.
That never did and never has existed. Officially it is the Republic of Kenya. It and the other countries that gained their independence in the early 1960s were part of the geopolitical entity:
British East Africa.
Not, no comma. The name can be shorted to BEA.
The official or even unofficial name was never
‘Kenya, East Africa’.
Had ‘Kenya’ been used by itself that would be more proper for the time. But Kenya, East Africa? It is a phrase that does not show in online dictionaries where British East Africa does.
Also another red flage -
Age of the father. It is uses the (incorrect) 1936 date as the starting point. The actual birth date of Obama Senior was in 1934 - as well documented in entry INS records and his own handwriting in renewal forms through 1962. After 1962 he changes the date to 1936 - even in his own handwriting. So it is a deliberate change by Obama during his stay.
I have always wondered if he changed his birth year to match what may have been given to Hawaii verbally by SAD or Grandma Dunham since he tried to leverage ‘the family’ in 1964 to stay in the US before INS and Harvard conspired to get him back to Kenya. Maybe he had to change to match their incorrect dating on the original BC.
I wouldn't put too much faith in passport records either. There have been times that the mayor or judge or some other official (besides Gov. Abercrombie)has said, "Yes, I know this person and he was born in this city).
The only thing is that the Executive Office has the power to manipulate a judge’s decision. The minute this is heard by one of their own and the decision is that the BC is real and they re-define NBC as anyone born anywhere by parents just shy of little green martians then they’ll have squashed it ever getting any further.
I take that you are correct as to a legal world. However, doesn’t such a decision by a judge redefine what birth is? It seems to me that it is such actions that can obscure true events. I can think of much chicanery being possible.
In the end, there is precious little difference between "Evil" and "Coward".
Geez, there’s that pesky US Constitution again.
http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/a/oaths_of_office_4.htm
The current oath for US Representatives was enacted in 1884:
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”
No, the only things changed on re-does of adoption BCs are the parents. None of the other information is touched. All this "Kenya" and "African" hooey would have been left as it was on the new form. Besides, the new and improved BC doesn't mention his grandparents so you're theory still won't gain any traction.
Not to be forgotten that Hawaii’s Chief Elections Clerk, Tim Adams, said that there was no BC.
Certainly adoption seems very probable considering: There is no record of Stanley Ann being admitted or released from any hospital in Hawaii for reasons of giving birth. No pictures taken by anyone of Stanley Ann pregnant or with a new baby in the hospital or coming home. There has never been one person, including any family members, who have come forth and stated that they held a baby shower for the mother; recalled her being pregnant, saw the baby or visited her in the hospital, etc...you know, the typical things that take place when a woman has her first child which is usually celebrated and recorded in some way by her family.
Also, it seemed very likely to me that the Grandmother in Kenya, who has claimed to have seen Obama being born actually did witness that...but he was born to another woman. Possibly one of Obama Sr's other wives or lovers. Stanley Ann, either out of desire to impress him, or out of some belief that she could help this child, adopted him and brought him back to Hawaii...unannounced and to the surprise of her parents. That could explain the strange, seemingly cold relationship between Barack and his grandparents. Stanley Ann could have easily put a birth announcement in the paper herself, and paid for it. And the original (that would verify adoption) Birth Certificate remains sealed because of adoption laws, as you correctly noted.
Or, as also a possibility, Obama is illegitimate (maybe not even Obama Sr's. child as some have suspected) and the family was shamed...kept it quiet...sent Stanley Ann somewhere to live while pregnant and give birth...and she returned with the baby. Obama Sr. didn't want her after discovering her pregnancy to another man, hence the divorce. If the Obama's later had tried to prove Barack was a citizen because he was born in some other U.S. location, at some home for pregnant women or something, it would open this can of worms about the real father, and Stanley Ann's dalliances. She might even have entered some home for pregnant women under a false name at the time, hence no record of her having a child anywhere. Who knows?
All that is sure is that nothing about the Obama BC adds up to what Obama wants everyone to believe.
I didn't mention that it has been changed since his adoption by his grandparents because I thought that would be self evident. I think the Long form which he has presented was created by order of a Hawaiian court, long after he was adopted by his grandparents. Probably with in the last few years. I think he got a court to issue him a new one because of the political fallout which would have occurred had he shown the one from his Adoption.
I think Hawaii DOH will back him up and say that image came from their office. Of that I am certain. Even he isn't stupid enough to offer a fake unless Hawaii considered it legitimate. His document is both fake and legitimate, which is why people are having difficulty figuring it out.
Apart from that, Obama has such a strong resemblance to Stanley Armour Dunham that there is no question in my mind that he is a Descendent of Stanley Dunham. His FATHER might be up for grabs, but I find it highly likely that Barry is a grandchild of Stanley Dunham.
None of that is any explanation at all for creating a multiple-layered computer-generated totally phony simulation of a document. If what you suggest were true they could have scanned an actual piece of paper and there would be no layers.
I have yet to read anything about this BC controversy that mentions DNA testing. Has anything been written about that aspect of verifying Obamas connection or lack thereof to any of the pertinent individuals having a possible maternal or paternal connection to him? Surely there are relatives of Ann Dunham and/or her parents still living as well as similar relationships to others mentioned in various scenarios regarding the paternal aspect who could supply DNA for testing. Bill Clinton was only forced to acknowledge the truth of his Monica escapade when proof of his DNA was found. Just wondering, as I believe anything is possible if not probable with this gang of unAmericans in control of this Republic.
My take is that the multilayer document was created AT the Hawaii DOH and the entire file was copied and sent to the Whitehouse. I think that the idiot children running things at Hawaii DOH AND in the Whitehouse (The Staffers) were too ignorant and stupid to realize that the fingerprints of manipulation would be contained in that file, and by the time they learned of it it was too late to do anything about it.
I can't remember how many times i've read of a case where metafile information ended up coming back to bite someone's butt.
Seriously. Staffers at DOH Hawaii created the thing from bits and pieces, and either emailed or gave a copy of the file to one of Obama's Lawyers (who was also too stupid about tech knowledge) and it eventually wound up in the Whitehouse, where other ignorant stupid Democrats posted it on the Website without realizing it contained the proof of it's own creation in it.
I mean, come on! Democrats as ignorant\stupid morons makes perfect sense! Doesn't it? What has the Obama White House EVER done that makes you think they might be competent?
That still means that it is a simulation of a document not a real document and absolute proof of fraud as I said in the first place.
It isn't "fraud" when the state makes court ordered "fake" documents. As I mentioned, *I* have a fake birth certificate created by my state. It is valid for every legal purpose, but virtually none of the information on it is original or true.
The Hawaii DOH staffer who put it together didn't realize that all of the paste up information would be contained in the file, but I bet he/she is aware of it now!
If you said it wasn't the "original" document, that would be absolutely correct.
This is the understatement of the year! 0b0z0 is much worse than Putin!
Putin loves his country, at least. He wants to restore it to the superpower it was once. OTOH, 0b0z0 is destroying “his” country and driving it down to a tenth world status.
Maybe because 0b0z0 knows it’s not really his country.
What do you think?
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