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POLL: Paul surges, Santorum Plunges in South Carolina (Drudge Headline)
American Research Group Inc (Drudge Report) ^ | 1/13/11

Posted on 01/13/2012 11:40:02 AM PST by traviskicks

Mitt Romney leads the South Carolina Republican presidential primary with 29%. Newt Gingrich is in second place with 25% and Ron Paul is in third place with 20%.

Paul has gained the most and Rick Santorum has lost the most since the last American Research Group survey on January 4-5. In that survey, Paul was at 9% and Santorum was at 24%.

Gingrich and Romney are tied among self-identified Republicans with 29% each, followed by Paul with 18%. Paul leads among independents and Democrats with 29%, followed by Romney with 27%, Gingrich with 12%, and Rick Perry with 11%.

Gingrich leads among those likely primary voters saying they are supporters of the Tea Party with 28%, followed by Romney with 24%, Paul with 20%, and Santorum with 11%. Romney leads with 33% among those saying they are not supporters of the Tea Party or are undecided about the Tea Party, followed by Gingrich with 23%, and Paul with 21%.

Gingrich leads among evangelical Christians with 40%, followed by Perry with 15%, Romney with 13%, Santorum with 12%, and Paul with 10%. Among likely voters saying they are not evangelical Christians, Romney leads with 48% and followed by Paul with 33%.

Gingrich leads among men with 29%, followed by Paul with 23%, Romney at 18%, and Santorum with 14%. Among women, Romney leads with 38%, followed Gingrich with 22%, and Paul with 18%.

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1 posted on 01/13/2012 11:40:08 AM PST by traviskicks
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To: traviskicks

I gotta admit that I always thought it would be interesting to see what someone like Ron Paul would actually do as president. There is not much on which I disagree with him.

At this point, it can’t hurt.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 11:43:37 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: traviskicks

Among mormons

In 2008 Romney with 94%

In 2012 Romney with 100% (the other 6% were excommunicated for disobeying their bishop)


3 posted on 01/13/2012 11:45:26 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: traviskicks

After month of consideration of the candidates, they all suck. For the first time in 7 presidential elections, I will be not be voting for the GOP nominee.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 11:46:12 AM PST by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: cuban leaf

As I said, I would vote for Mickey Mouse if the GOP nominated him. And if Ron Paul is nominated, he pretty much will be Micky Mouse.

He is dead on on domestic policies but his foreign policies are chilling and irrational.


5 posted on 01/13/2012 11:46:58 AM PST by ZULU (LIBERATE HAGIA SOPHIA!!!!!)
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To: traviskicks

If Santorum slides, one can only hope that Newt is the beneficiary. It certainly won’t be Paul.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 11:47:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: traviskicks

Hmmmmm, the polls today seem to be somewhat scattered. There appears to be alot of fluidity in them. Anyways it appears Newt has a real shot to take South Carolina. We need to stop Mitt. GO NEWT!


7 posted on 01/13/2012 11:48:01 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: cuban leaf
At this point, it can’t hurt.

By the time the others finish bloodying each other up, I wouldn't be surprised if Paul turns out to be the last man standing.

8 posted on 01/13/2012 11:49:11 AM PST by jersey117
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To: traviskicks

Go RP!!!


9 posted on 01/13/2012 11:49:46 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: traviskicks

Translation: To the extent that we know (and voters are playing with pollsters to a greater extent than usual, so pollsters don’t really know), everyone except Romney’s solid 25-30% is hoping and praying to find someone who can stop Romney. Perry was up, Bachmann was up. Santorum was up. Newt was up. Cain was up. When those temporary bursts of popularity go back down, Romney does not get their support. Conservatives have agreed that anyone willing to run is MUCH better than settling for Mitt, and they are vetting the options as they try to choose the most electable non-Mitt option. I just hope and pray that we make that choice after no more than three more primaries, so that the non-Romney option can gather more delegates than the big government, inside-the-Beltway, RINO option.


10 posted on 01/13/2012 11:50:13 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: cuban leaf
I gotta admit that I always thought it would be interesting to see what someone like Ron Paul would actually do as president. There is not much on which I disagree with him.

I imagine a Paul presidency would be very similar to when Jesse Ventura won the Minnesota Governors race as an independent. Basically he quickly discovered that a politician can't actually do anything without one of the major parties supporting him and twisted in the wind for four years and wisely choose not to run for a second term.

11 posted on 01/13/2012 11:50:54 AM PST by apillar
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To: traviskicks

Can anyone really tell me the difference between Mitt and Barack other than one is half white while the other is maybe 95% white? The GOP is about to elect yet another Bob Dole as it’s torch bearer that will promise to continue the policies of his predecessors (Bush Sr./Clinton/Bush Jr/Obama). There really is no difference and hasn’t been for a long long time. Meanwhile the only candidate that truly does support going back to a constitutional federal government is shunned for having “scary foreign policy views”. Oh well time to close our eyes, stick our fingers in our ears and shout LA LA LA at the top of our voice in order to convince ourselves that “this time it really will be different”. Good luck with that.


12 posted on 01/13/2012 11:51:38 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: 11th Commandment

“After month[s] of consideration of the candidates, they all suck.”

I agree.

“For the first time in 7 presidential elections, I will be not be voting for the GOP nominee.”

I’ve not yet been able to vote in 7, but I may very well be in the same boat there, as well. We’ll have to see how things shake out, I guess.

I wanted to thank you for putting the thirty-thousand.org in your tagline. I’ve been thinking more and more about it, and at about 3AM this morning, I thought it was time to replace my tagline (first time in my years here on FR). I had forgotten to, but remembered thanks to you. Thanks for the new tagline!


13 posted on 01/13/2012 11:52:11 AM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: traviskicks

Paul got about half of the 18-29 year old vote in NH. The final phase of high school and college indoctrination is complete. Not long before we may have to say adios to the USA as you have known it.


14 posted on 01/13/2012 11:54:11 AM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: jersey117
I wouldn't be surprised if Paul turns out to be the last man standing.

I am surprised when he literally remains standing during a debate with his eyebrows in tack.

15 posted on 01/13/2012 11:54:11 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (We Can Take OUR Country Back--Perry 2012)
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it seems as though this freeper site has been reduced to indifference. And they are content to let the GOP deteriorate into Romney and ronPaul factions.

I will not. I’ll stick with the NEWT-SANTORUM crowd for all 50 primaries/caucus. Even if Rick Perry is the only one left.


16 posted on 01/13/2012 11:55:11 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT (and I will go to southern Maine to campaign.)
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To: Parley Baer

Now the pollsters seem to be in a full blown PANIC; the disarray is about trying to resurrect all that Romney/inevitability business. Period.


17 posted on 01/13/2012 11:55:21 AM PST by RitaOK (LET 'ER RIP, NEWT. NEWT 2012)
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To: apillar

Very true. It would have been the same for Perot, had he won in ‘92. If you want to see the effectiveness of a Paul presidency, use his run-in with Vermin Supreme as your reference.


18 posted on 01/13/2012 11:56:56 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: apillar

There is one thing Paul can do that would really mess up the establishment and roll back tons and tons of red tape. End the state of emergency FDR declared in 1933. I think Paul could use the threat of doing just that to help him enact a do part of his agenda. He can do that all by himself with the stroke of a pen making all executive orders since 1933 null and void.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 11:57:40 AM PST by jpsb
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To: Pollster1

>> Bachmann was up.

???

Bachmann is no longer running.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 11:58:39 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: traviskicks

It’s very peculiar to see Santorum go from 24% to 7% in one week. Does anyone know of anything that happened during the past week to explain such a drop? Maybe Ron Paul hypnotized part of the voters of SC.


21 posted on 01/13/2012 11:58:49 AM PST by Will88
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To: Steelfish
Five European Nations to Be Downgraded by S&P:

JANUARY 11 Greece so poor families are abandoning their children
JANUARY 12 - Greece's unemployment rate jumped to 18.2%

here in the USA 15.227 trillion and counting

Just a little reminder debt(spending) kills nations

22 posted on 01/13/2012 12:00:36 PM PST by jpsb
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To: Will88

It might have something to do with the fact that the nation is on the brink of financial ruin and only Ron Paul is talking about that.


23 posted on 01/13/2012 12:04:40 PM PST by jpsb
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To: traviskicks

I have a feeling if Romney gets ultimate power the LDS church will be much more in the spotlight, will become a very powerful political controller and will work itself into being introduced on many levels of the lifestyle all across America.

But it could be worse, Romney could have been a Jehovahs Witness.


24 posted on 01/13/2012 12:04:59 PM PST by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: Will88

“It’s very peculiar to see Santorum go from 24% to 7% in one week. Does anyone know of anything that happened during the past week to explain such a drop?”

Yes, there was anoother debate, where he opened his mouth and spoke. People as a whole don’t like Santorum, nor his message. He also was stupid enough to say this (I don’t know exactly when, it was on a radio), and it has been spread far and wide in the last week:

“One of the criticisms I make is to what I refer to as more of a Libertarianish right.

They have this idea that people should be left alone, be able to do whatever they want to do, government should keep our taxes down, keep our regulations low, and that we shouldn’t get involved in the bedroom, we shouldn’t get involved in cultural issues. That is not how traditional conservatives view the world.”


25 posted on 01/13/2012 12:05:54 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Will88

It’s very peculiar to see Santorum go from 24% to 7% in one week.

It’s a different state. Santorum is from Pennsylvania and is probably not trusted by South Carolinians (though I can’t fathom why they’d trust Romney other than they’re listening to the whispers that only Romney can win.)

Gingrch, Paul, and Perry hail from the South and will be preferable. Santorum has demoonstrated himself with his votes that he can slide into liberalism. For all the talk about Newt’s flip flops, his actual votes speak volumes about his conservatism. Paul’s conservatism isn’t questioned at all. And Perry, other than on immigration, is solidly conservative. Given this, I think that’s why Santorum dropped.


26 posted on 01/13/2012 12:05:54 PM PST by cotton1706
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To: traviskicks

Paul going from 4th place to 3rd is worthy of a headline?


27 posted on 01/13/2012 12:06:15 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: traviskicks

“Gingrich leads among evangelical Christians with 40%, followed by Perry with 15%, Romney with 13%, Santorum with 12%, and Paul with 10%.”

Now THAT is quite amazing.... and I love it.

Santorum needs to drop out for the good of the country.


28 posted on 01/13/2012 12:07:47 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~..... GO NEWT GO.....!)
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To: Will88
It’s very peculiar to see Santorum go from 24% to 7% in one week.

This pollster is pretty bad, as pollsters go.

But Santorum's numbers HAVE fallen, as he's been out of the focus lately given Newt & Perry going after Romney for making money.

Economic conservatives will likely decide those two are crazy, but they are more likely to end up with Romney right now. So Santorum has two opportunities: compete with Mitt for those who believe in free markets, and compete with Perry & Newt for those who emphasize social issues.

29 posted on 01/13/2012 12:07:47 PM PST by Crichton
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To: traviskicks; All
Great read: “The GOP establishment are more afraid of a Gingrich victory than an Obama victory”

http://worldviewtonight.wordpress.com/2012/01/13/the-gop-establishment-are-more-afraid-of-a-gingrich-victory-than-an-obama-victory/

Excerpts: “American voters must decide if they trust their party establishment more than a man granted with some personal flaws, but brilliant in delivering transformational change on a national level. It is Gingrich’s ability to work in a bi-partisan manner, his ideas and solutions and above all, his willingness to tackle head on the difficult decisions which should make him the only candidate ordinary American’s would vote for to restore America’s economic strength and respect around the world.

The establishment are petrified what a Gingrich presidency would bring to the Washington gravy train. The inner beltway has for too long stumbled along talking big, but doing and achieving little. Gingrich may be a man of many words however; he is also a man who says what he means and does what he says.

The Republican Party hierarchy & playmakers are fearful a Gingrich presidency would solidify the Tea-Party & certain libertarian factions within the party permanently.”

Please feel free to start dedicated thread if so inclined.

30 posted on 01/13/2012 12:09:41 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: jpsb
JANUARY 11 Greece so poor families are abandoning their children

People shouldn't abandon their children in hard times. Haven't they ever read Swift's A Modest Proposal?

OK I'm gonna burn for that but it is still funny
31 posted on 01/13/2012 12:11:38 PM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: cuban leaf

Ron Paul would destroy Obama. He would peel off 10-15 of the demos, get the indes, and the repubs would have to support im over thugbama.

If its romney or RP, I am for RP all the way.


32 posted on 01/13/2012 12:11:38 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: cotton1706
It’s very peculiar to see Santorum go from 24% to 7% in one week.

The three polls taken Wednesday-Thursday do not agree on his level of support - shown by highest quality pollster first:

Rasmussen: 16%
Insider Advantage: 14%
ARG: 7%

For me, the last one is clearly an outlier.

33 posted on 01/13/2012 12:12:08 PM PST by Crichton
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To: trapped_in_LA
Can anyone really tell me the difference between Mitt and Barack other than one is half white while the other is maybe 95% white?

Obama has more principles than Romney. Obama is dedicated Marxist. Romney has no core beliefs other than doing what is best for himself.

34 posted on 01/13/2012 12:13:20 PM PST by Kazan
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To: jpsb
Well, for one I would like to see an actual Veto by a President when it comes to a Budget. I suspect Paul would actually do that. Who knows, but actually forcing Congress to produce something less than the year before would be fun.
35 posted on 01/13/2012 12:13:26 PM PST by Theoria
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
The establishment are petrified what a Gingrich presidency would bring to the Washington gravy train.

Gingrich has been riding that gravy train for the past 15 years, feeding at the trough with all the other hogs.

I find it very hard to believe that the leopard has changed his spots.

36 posted on 01/13/2012 12:16:29 PM PST by Crichton
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To: Crichton
The three polls taken Wednesday-Thursday do not agree on his level of support - shown by highest quality pollster first:

I guess Santorum has lost significant support, but this poll showing a drop to 7% has to be the least accurate.

37 posted on 01/13/2012 12:17:21 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

Paul might beat Romney in SC. He takes from Willard, not Newt.


38 posted on 01/13/2012 12:27:16 PM PST by NKP_Vet (creep.)
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To: Crichton
The ‘leopard’ is very well aware our country is going down the tubes and he very well aware that our constitution is being shredded. It is impossible, IMO, for a lover of American history and our constitution to sit back and watch America be destroyed.

I think he has changed his spots. All you have to do is watch some of the Freedom speeches he did a few years back, and it is CLEAR to any reasonable person he loves this country.

Spew your hate and disgust for Newt. I will spend my energy trying to get the only person capable of change elected. What kind of future my kids have is important to me. Go Newt.

39 posted on 01/13/2012 12:31:14 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: Nervous Tick
>> Bachmann was up. ??? Bachmann is no longer running.

Past tense: Bachmann Wins Iowa Straw Poll, Cements Her Top-Tier Status in GOP Race (August 13, 2011)

My point is that we've spent all year with conservatives thrilled over quite a few different not-Romney choices, but then backing off as they are vetted. I just pray that one of the few remaining options can derail Romney and then defeat Obama. At best, this will be the most significant presidential election since 1860. At worst . . .

40 posted on 01/13/2012 12:35:01 PM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Steelfish

Why would a so called indoctrinated student vote for the most anti establishment anti government candidate? Not really following you here.


41 posted on 01/13/2012 12:37:12 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: NKP_Vet
Paul might beat Romney in SC. He takes from Willard, not Newt.

Santorum lost support to someone. Some of it had to be to Paul, plus Perry regained 7% during the same week. Romney only dropped 2%.

But it does look like this poll is overstating Santorum's drop in support, so it's also likely overstating Paul or Perry's gains.

42 posted on 01/13/2012 12:37:56 PM PST by Will88
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To: ZULU

—He is dead on on domestic policies but his foreign policies are chilling and irrational.—

Hey, I’m with you. I just don’t think we have anything to lose. :)

—As I said, I would vote for Mickey Mouse if the GOP nominated him.—

I wouldn’t. If Hitler ran against Satan himself, I’d not vote.


43 posted on 01/13/2012 12:37:56 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: NKP_Vet

The debate Monday is going to be huge. Who is hosting it? Fox? Fox is in the tank for Romney, right? That sucks but nothing can be done about it.


44 posted on 01/13/2012 12:38:49 PM PST by jpsb
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To: apillar

—a politician can’t actually do anything—

That’s what I’m hoping for.


45 posted on 01/13/2012 12:39:02 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Will88

People took a closer look and found him lacking, maybe like I did.


46 posted on 01/13/2012 12:39:18 PM PST by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: jpsb
There is one thing Paul can do that would really mess up the establishment and roll back tons and tons of red tape. End the state of emergency FDR declared in 1933. I think Paul could use the threat of doing just that to help him enact a do part of his agenda. He can do that all by himself with the stroke of a pen making all executive orders since 1933 null and void.

You mean say something like this in his inaugural address?

Heads would explode.

47 posted on 01/13/2012 12:40:26 PM PST by logician2u
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To: traviskicks

A tweet:

“Children’s lives would be harmed if a woman was president, Santorum coalitions director Jamie Johnson wrote—WOW”

Anyone seen the written comment by Johnson?? Link?

If this is true, I expect Santoum to crash and burn REAL fast.


48 posted on 01/13/2012 12:41:21 PM PST by LuvFreeRepublic ( (I am angry and that is why I am #withNewt))
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To: GlockThe Vote

I am really NO fan of RP, but if it’s him vs romney, I’m with you.


49 posted on 01/13/2012 12:42:21 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

Sure, there should be no problem with a candidate that is praising traitors, published decades of racist vile loony newsletters, blamed the US for 9/11 and panders to the Truther kook fringe, sympathizes with the Occupy parasites, participating on conspiracy nut shows, worked closely with Soros and Barney Frank, is supported by Democrats, foilhats, white supremacists, and the fringe of society, trashes of the US Constitution, promotes dope use, promotes dangerous isolationism and the gutting of US defense and support Iranian and terrorist nukes?

What could possibly go wrong?

Tell me vooch, there always has been, is now and always will be a dominant world military power. What nation or group would you like to see become that power in Paul gets his way with gutting ours?


50 posted on 01/13/2012 12:42:36 PM PST by Proud2BeRight
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