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New Bill Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Conviction
addictinginfo.org ^ | January 6, 2012 | Stephen D. Foster Jr.

Posted on 01/13/2012 3:55:51 PM PST by grundle

Full title: New Bill Known As Enemy Expatriation Act Would Allow Government To Strip Citizenship Without Conviction

First, Congress considered the National Defense Authorization Act, sections of which gave the President the authority to use the military to arrest and indefinitely detain Americans without trial or charge. The language was revised because of strong condemnation from the American people. But now a new bill has emerged that poses yet another threat to the American citizenry.

Congress is considering HR 3166 and S. 1698 also known as the Enemy Expatriation Act, sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA). This bill would give the US government the power to strip Americans of their citizenship without being convicted of being “hostile” against the United States. In other words, you can be stripped of your nationality for “engaging in, or purposefully and materially supporting, hostilities against the United States.” Legally, the term “hostilities” means any conflict subject to the laws of war but considering the fact that the War on Terror is a little ambiguous and encompassing, any action could be labeled as supporting terrorism. Since the Occupy movement began, conservatives have been trying to paint the protesters as terrorists.

The new law would change a part of US Code 1481 which can be read in full here. Compare 3166 to 1481 and the change is small. The new section makes no reference to being convicted as it does in section (7). So even though the language of the NDAA has been revised to exclude American citizens, the US government merely has to strip Americans of their citizenship and the NDAA will apply. And they will be able to do so without convicting the accused in a court of law.

I hope I’m wrong, but it sounds to me like this is a loophole for indefinitely detaining Americans. Once again, you just have to be accused of supporting hostilities which could be defined any way the government sees fit. Then the government can strip your citizenship and apply the indefinite detention section of the NDAA without the benefit of a trial. This certainly must be questioned by American citizens. The way these defense obsessed Republicans think, our rights are always in danger of being taken away.

To read the full text of the bill, go here.


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1 posted on 01/13/2012 3:55:54 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

Of course this will only be applied to natural born white christians repubicans.


2 posted on 01/13/2012 3:58:11 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: grundle

Some on Obama’s side see the Tea Party movement as a bunch of terrorists...


3 posted on 01/13/2012 3:59:56 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: grundle

War on Americans.


4 posted on 01/13/2012 4:00:30 PM PST by VicVega (GEAUX SAINTS-LSU bleaux it in the BCS Championship game.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Are you kidding me? Some on the republican side do too!


5 posted on 01/13/2012 4:00:41 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: mamelukesabre

Exactly. All the doomsayers are omitting this will be applied to IMMIGRANTS who are caught providing support for terrorism.


6 posted on 01/13/2012 4:02:03 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: grundle

Apply the law to Obozo. He certainly is an enemy combatant against the U.S.


7 posted on 01/13/2012 4:02:52 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: grundle

O’Dumbo...”Strip Citizenship Without Conviction”? Start with Soros and I’ll become a believer!


8 posted on 01/13/2012 4:05:27 PM PST by WellyP (REAL)
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To: grundle

At LAST! FREE everything! Virtual immunity from laws! The right that others cater to you! Almost total support in everything from both Parties! Total support from major portions of the economy — everything you ever dreamed of! What a deal!


9 posted on 01/13/2012 4:06:31 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: grundle
sponsored by Joe Lieberman (I-CT) and Charles Dent (R-PA)

Sponsored by Traitors.
10 posted on 01/13/2012 4:06:39 PM PST by microgood
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To: grundle

John Adams wanted the “Alien” and “Sedition” acts...equally unconstitutional. When you ignore the constitution you end up...right here.


11 posted on 01/13/2012 4:06:41 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: grundle

The last sentence above, what puke wrote this and who is writing the bill from what party????


12 posted on 01/13/2012 4:07:56 PM PST by org.whodat (What is the difference in Newt's, Perry's and Willard's positions on Amnesty.)
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To: grundle

Obviously, this bill needs to go nowhere.

Email, call, fax your Rep and let them know this is BS!


13 posted on 01/13/2012 4:08:16 PM PST by upchuck (Let's have the Revolution NOW before we get dumbed down to the point that we can't.)
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To: mamelukesabre

so I came here and got my citizenship, work hard for that dream but if I speak out I could lose everything I have worked for , MMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Lets see white, well Italian skin, wear a cross, English speaking and from a white country and I’m conservative socially and fiscally.
I speak out and raise my kids to love America, pray before a fight or test, speak out

Looks like I could be in the target


14 posted on 01/13/2012 4:08:16 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between one man and one woman.Trolls get a life, I HATE OUR BIASED LIBERAL MEDIA.)
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To: grundle
HR 3166 IH

112th CONGRESS

1st Session

H. R. 3166

To add engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which United States nationals would lose their nationality.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

October 12, 2011

Mr. DENT (for himself and Mr. ALTMIRE) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary


A BILL

To add engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States to the list of acts for which United States nationals would lose their nationality.

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

SEC. 2. LOSS OF NATIONALITY.




15 posted on 01/13/2012 4:11:20 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: grundle
Since the Occupy movement began, conservatives have been trying to paint the protesters as terrorists.

That's BS. We take them for what they are, useful idiots in Berry's class warfare election campaign.

16 posted on 01/13/2012 4:11:45 PM PST by Track9 (There IS revolution brewing..)
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To: grundle
Well, I have looked into expatriating and the largest obstacle is the IRS.

If I could get stripped of my citizenship after leaving for elsewhere and get the IRS off my back, I would take that deal in a heartbeat.

17 posted on 01/13/2012 4:11:58 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And you know this how?
18 posted on 01/13/2012 4:14:50 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: VicVega

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?!?! This is LUNACY, and everyone’s just sitting back wondering what Steven Tyler’s going to say on American Idol next week.


19 posted on 01/13/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: mamelukesabre

“Of course this will only be applied to natural born white christians repubicans.”

LOL. Well those stripped of citizenship can ALWAYS come to Texas. After all, we coddle Illegals here.


20 posted on 01/13/2012 4:16:04 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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