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Wikipedia Blackout: Websites Wikipedia, Reddit, Others Go Dark Wednesday to Protest SOPA, PIPA
ABC News ^ | January 17, 2012 | Ned Potter

Posted on 01/17/2012 3:52:06 AM PST by abb

Do not try to look up "Internet Censorship" or "SOPA" or "PIPA" on Wikipedia, the giant online encyclopedia, on Wednesday.

SOPA and PIPA are two bills in Congress meant to stop the illegal copying and sharing of movies and music on the Internet, but major Internet companies say the bills would put them in the impossible position of policing the online world.

Wikipedia's founder, Jimmy Wales, now says his site will go dark for the day on Wednesday, joining a budding movement to protest the two bills. Google vs. China Watch Video Craigslist Censored? Watch Video China Hackers Stealing U.S. Secrets, Jobs Watch Video

"This is going to be wow," Wales said on Twitter. "I hope Wikipedia will melt phone systems in Washington on Wednesday. Tell everyone you know!"

Other sites, such as Reddit and Boing Boing, have already said they would go dark on Wednesday. And some of the biggest names online, including Google, Facebook, Twitter and Tumblr, have vocally opposed the proposed legislation.

PIPA, the Protect IP Act in the Senate, and SOPA, the Stop Online Piracy Act, have been presented as a way to protect movie studios, record labels and others. Supporters range from the Country Music Association to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

But the Internet giants say the bills could require your Internet provider to block websites that are involved in digital file sharing. And search engines such as Google, Yahoo and Bing could be stopped from linking to them -- antithetical, they say, to the ideal of an open Internet.

"If you want an Internet where human rights, free speech and the rule of law are not subordinated to the entertainment industry's profits, I hope you'll join us," said Cory Doctorow of Boing Boing.

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1 posted on 01/17/2012 3:52:15 AM PST by abb
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2 posted on 01/17/2012 3:53:19 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

We survived a million years without Wiki, so twenty-four hours won’t matter much.


3 posted on 01/17/2012 3:53:39 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: abb

Here is a link to all the Nanny State Congressional thugs who are sponsoring SOPA.

http://www.sopasponsors.com/


4 posted on 01/17/2012 4:00:30 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz

One of my people - Steve Scalise - is on the list. He’s been a very good soldier for our side up until now. Don’t know what his motivation is here. I may try and interview him for my newsblog.


5 posted on 01/17/2012 4:03:34 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
. . . major Internet companies say the bills would put them in the impossible position of policing the online world.

No overseers aboard the Internet! Make warder boarding the Internet illegal!

6 posted on 01/17/2012 4:09:18 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: abb
As emotional protest/tantrums go, this is one I support.

Anything to get the sheeple to disconnect from their media stupor and see what's happening right under their noses.

7 posted on 01/17/2012 4:25:28 AM PST by RetroSexual
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

With this administration in charge this is no time to give the government more power. Look at the Democrats sponsoring this bill and be afraid. We do not need another power grab by the government at a time when people do not yet understand the freedom they lost under Dodd Frank.


8 posted on 01/17/2012 4:26:37 AM PST by paguch
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To: abb

Hmmm...

What effect, if any, will this story from yesterday have on these plans??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2833705/posts

US Crackdown On Web Piracy ‘Shelved’
Sky News ^

Posted on Monday, January 16, 2012 3:45:18 PM by Sub-Driver

US Crackdown On Web Piracy ‘Shelved’

9:28pm UK, Monday January 16, 2012

US plans to legislate against internet piracy appear to have been effectively shelved after Barack Obama came out against it and Congressional leaders reportedly said a vote would not be held “unless there is consensus”.

[snip]


9 posted on 01/17/2012 4:27:27 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: abb

To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community
From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director
Date: January 16, 2012

Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation in the United States—the Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the PROTECT IP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate—that, if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including Wikipedia.

This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public protest of this nature, and it’s a decision that wasn’t lightly made. Here’s how it’s been described by the three Wikipedia administrators who formally facilitated the community’s discussion. From the public statement, signed by User:NuclearWarfare, User:Risker and User:Billinghurst:

It is the opinion of the English Wikipedia community that both of these bills, if passed, would be devastating to the free and open web.

Over the course of the past 72 hours, over 1800 Wikipedians have joined together to discuss proposed actions that the community might wish to take against SOPA and PIPA. This is by far the largest level of participation in a community discussion ever seen on Wikipedia, which illustrates the level of concern that Wikipedians feel about this proposed legislation. The overwhelming majority of participants support community action to encourage greater public action in response to these two bills. Of the proposals considered by Wikipedians, those that would result in a “blackout” of the English Wikipedia, in concert with similar blackouts on other websites opposed to SOPA and PIPA, received the strongest support.

On careful review of this discussion, the closing administrators note the broad-based support for action from Wikipedians around the world, not just from within the United States. The primary objection to a global blackout came from those who preferred that the blackout be limited to readers from the United States, with the rest of the world seeing a simple banner notice instead. We also noted that roughly 55% of those supporting a blackout preferred that it be a global one, with many pointing to concerns about similar legislation in other nations.

In making this decision, Wikipedians will be criticized for seeming to abandon neutrality to take a political position. That’s a real, legitimate issue. We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them.

But although Wikipedia’s articles are neutral, its existence is not. As Wikimedia Foundation board member Kat Walsh wrote on one of our mailing lists recently,

We depend on a legal infrastructure that makes it possible for us to operate. And we depend on a legal infrastructure that also allows other sites to host user-contributed material, both information and expression. For the most part, Wikimedia projects are organizing and summarizing and collecting the world’s knowledge. We’re putting it in context, and showing people how to make to sense of it.

But that knowledge has to be published somewhere for anyone to find and use it. Where it can be censored without due process, it hurts the speaker, the public, and Wikimedia. Where you can only speak if you have sufficient resources to fight legal challenges, or, if your views are pre-approved by someone who does, the same narrow set of ideas already popular will continue to be all anyone has meaningful access to.

The decision to shut down the English Wikipedia wasn’t made by me; it was made by editors, through a consensus decision-making process. But I support it.

Like Kat and the rest of the Wikimedia Foundation Board, I have increasingly begun to think of Wikipedia’s public voice, and the goodwill people have for Wikipedia, as a resource that wants to be used for the benefit of the public. Readers trust Wikipedia because they know that despite its faults, Wikipedia’s heart is in the right place. It’s not aiming to monetize their eyeballs or make them believe some particular thing, or sell them a product. Wikipedia has no hidden agenda: it just wants to be helpful.

That’s less true of other sites. Most are commercially motivated: their purpose is to make money. That doesn’t mean they don’t have a desire to make the world a better place—many do!—but it does mean that their positions and actions need to be understood in the context of conflicting interests.

My hope is that when Wikipedia shuts down on January 18, people will understand that we’re doing it for our readers. We support everyone’s right to freedom of thought and freedom of expression. We think everyone should have access to educational material on a wide range of subjects, even if they can’t pay for it. We believe in a free and open Internet where information can be shared without impediment. We believe that new proposed laws like SOPA—and PIPA, and other similar laws under discussion inside and outside the United States—don’t advance the interests of the general public. You can read a very good list of reasons to oppose SOPA and PIPA here, from the Electronic Frontier Foundation.

Why is this a global action, rather than US-only? And why now, if some American legislators appear to be in tactical retreat on SOPA?

The reality is that we don’t think SOPA is going away, and PIPA is still quite active. Moreover, SOPA and PIPA are just indicators of a much broader problem. All around the world, we’re seeing the development of legislation intended to fight online piracy, and regulate the Internet in other ways, that hurt online freedoms. Our concern extends beyond SOPA and PIPA: they are just part of the problem. We want the Internet to remain free and open, everywhere, for everyone.

Make your voice heard!

Bookmark with Facebook Share on Twitter Share on reddit.com Share on Digg.com

On January 18, we hope you’ll agree with us, and will do what you can to make your own voice heard.

Sue Gardner,
Executive Director, Wikimedia Foundation


10 posted on 01/17/2012 4:41:02 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: abb

One wonders if this is still necessary. I thought the bill was scuttled as recent as yesterday


11 posted on 01/17/2012 4:42:11 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: bert

In Washington, nothing is dead as long as Congress is in session, or the president’s auto-pen is running.


12 posted on 01/17/2012 4:52:01 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/01/online-piracy-sopa-and-internet-security-pipa-bills-in-congress
Online Piracy and Internet Security: Congress Asks the Right Question but Offers the Wrong Answers

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16590585
Wikipedia joins web blackout in Sopa protest

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16596577
Sopa and Pipa anti-piracy bills controversy explained

http://www.examiner.com/populist-in-national/getting-up-to-speed-on-sopa
Getting up to speed on SOPA


13 posted on 01/17/2012 5:04:45 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: pepsionice

It isn’t a matter of if we need Wiki or not, it is a matter of government control of the Internet.


14 posted on 01/17/2012 5:27:15 AM PST by thecomputertutor
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To: bert

http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html
Lockdown
The coming war on general-purpose computing


15 posted on 01/17/2012 5:32:46 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203735304577165081404005466.html?mod=WSJ_article_comments#articleTabs%3Darticle
Web Piracy Bill Faces Fiercer Fight
Media Companies Lose Ground as White House Sides With Internet Firms; Wikipedia Plans Protest


16 posted on 01/17/2012 5:35:56 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

My son handed me down a computer that is connected to the TV to watch programs on the hard drive and available over the internet. I am currently using Boxee that goes to various places on the internet to get stuff you either pay for or that has adds.

The computer is old but has a plug in that allows wireless connection to the internet. It came with a clicker that operates the computer and thus the programming. It is clunky and I can’t make it work well.

Last night i learned that the solution to the problem was by my side........ my I Phone. The I Phone has an Ap, actually many, that permit me to sit on the couch and operate the computer across the room to make it serve up the program or movie I want to watch.

As best I can tell we now have a convergence of many technologies. The I phone is in reality a computer tht is a radio that can transmit instructions governed by the Ap software to another wireless connected computer that provides the signal and thus the content to the TV.

It’s is almost beyond my cpacity


17 posted on 01/17/2012 5:57:36 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: abb
List of sopa strike participants thus far....

www.sopastrike.com

18 posted on 01/17/2012 8:59:23 AM PST by BossLady (Where There's A Shill...There's A Pay.......)
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To: abb
Wikipedia Blackout: Websites Wikipedia, Reddit, Others Go Dark Wednesday

Remember when Atlas Shrugged was fiction...?

SOPA and PIPA are two bills in Congress meant to stop the illegal copying and sharing of movies and music on the Internet

No, that's the rationale offered for the bills. The intent of the bills (for Hollywood) is to choke off the Internet's ability to put small-scale creators one a level distribution playing field and (for the politicians) to enable the installation of Chinese-style censorship mechanisms.

19 posted on 01/17/2012 9:51:14 AM PST by transducer
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To: Uncle Ike

“Shelved” = “retreat until the heat is off, then try again”


20 posted on 01/17/2012 9:51:21 AM PST by transducer
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To: abb

Like most protest this is a silly hollow gesture that accomplishes nothing and punishes the wrong people. Shutting down their own websites, keeping the users of the websites from the content, really isn’t going to make the government stop doing anything.


21 posted on 01/17/2012 9:55:09 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: RetroSexual

I agree with the cause but the protest itself is stupid. Nobody except Disney and the congressmen they own supports this. But the protest doesn’t hurt them, it hurts the people that already know SOPA is a bad idea.


22 posted on 01/17/2012 9:57:00 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: discostu

What you’re overlooking is that most people don’t have any idea that this is going on at all. The shutdown, with the banner explaining the reasons, is a clue-by-four to wake them up.


23 posted on 01/17/2012 10:26:15 AM PST by transducer
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To: transducer

If they don’t know about SOPA (which is pretty hard to do if you’re already hanging out on the internet) then finding their favorite site shutdown will just annoy them at the site, not the government. They won’t bother to research it, and even if they did bother to research everybody’s favorite place to start research (Wiki) is one of the sites going dark.


24 posted on 01/17/2012 11:34:30 AM PST by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: abb

http://www.politickerny.com/2012/01/17/potential-gillibrand-challenger-slams-senator-for-pipa-support/
Potential Gillibrand Challenger Slams Senator for PIPA Support

http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/01/17/google-joins-sopa-strike-with-homepage-action/
Google Joins SOPA Strike with Homepage Action

http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/552001
IBOPE Zogby Poll: 68% Oppose Online Piracy Act (SOPA)

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2017262495_microsoft_opposes_sopa.html
Microsoft opposes SOPA


25 posted on 01/17/2012 3:31:37 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb
One of my people - Steve Scalise - is on the list. He’s been a very good soldier for our side up until now. Don’t know what his motivation is here.

There are only two motivations for supporting this: Either he's been bought off by Hollywood or he believes the government should control what goes on the internet.

Either one of those is bad and he should get the boot. This is a critical piece of legislation that could easily lead to websites like Free Republic being shut down.
26 posted on 01/17/2012 3:37:33 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: paguch
With this administration in charge this is no time to give the government more power. Look at the Democrats sponsoring this bill and be afraid.

Look at the Republicans and be afraid!!!! We expect this out of Democrats, Republicans should be fighting this! Instead Republicans like Lamar Smith are driving this.

And they are making Obama look like he defends free speech on the internet.
27 posted on 01/17/2012 3:38:59 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: Uncle Ike
US Crackdown On Web Piracy ‘Shelved’

Not shelved, delayed until February. Lamar Smith intends on bringing this legislation back.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2834125/posts
28 posted on 01/17/2012 3:40:18 PM PST by af_vet_rr
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To: abb

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/479214-Leahy_Wikipedia_Reddit_Hiding_Behind_Black_Box_of_Censorship.php
Leahy: Wikipedia, Reddit ‘Hiding Behind’ Black Box of Censorship
Says they would be unaffected by the bill


29 posted on 01/17/2012 4:09:43 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/479214-Leahy_Wikipedia_Reddit_Hiding_Behind_Black_Box_of_Censorship.php
Leahy: Wikipedia, Reddit ‘Hiding Behind’ Black Box of Censorship
Says they would be unaffected by the bill

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31001_3-57359506-261/google-calls-murdochs-piracy-allegations-nonsense/
Google calls Murdoch’s piracy allegations ‘nonsense’


30 posted on 01/17/2012 4:10:29 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

I’d like to propose a 24-hour blackout of acronyms.


31 posted on 01/17/2012 4:11:16 PM PST by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than politicians, professors and preachers.)
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To: GSWarrior

My pet peeve is 8 1/2 x 14 legal-size paper. If I were King that would be my very first edict - to make use of it illegal.

Would it ever PO the lawyers!


32 posted on 01/17/2012 4:26:37 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: discostu

Wikipedia is linking to a page that will identify your Senators and Congress rep. So it is proactive.


33 posted on 01/17/2012 9:31:44 PM PST by Borges
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To: abb
The problem with both laws is simple: it gets the Federal government directly involved in what is allowed on the Internet. That is a direct violation of the Free Speech clause of the First Amendment, and both laws would be quickly struck down by the Federal courts.
34 posted on 01/17/2012 9:47:38 PM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: abb

I’m surprised by the number of people here who bit on the “censorship” bait. These bills are an attempt to honor / reinforce intellectual property rights. It’s been allowed to go on so long that people apparently feel they are entitled to things that are created and owned by someone else. Sad. I hope these bills prevail.


35 posted on 01/17/2012 9:55:42 PM PST by Floratina
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To: abb
In Washington, nothing is dead as long as Congress is in session, or the president’s auto-pen is running.

Mark Twain said, "I fear for my country when Congress is in session." BTW, Mary Bono Mack a sponsor? Sonny would not be proud. B-P
36 posted on 01/17/2012 10:27:31 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: Floratina
I’m surprised by the number of people here who bit on the “censorship” bait. These bills are an attempt to honor / reinforce intellectual property rights. It’s been allowed to go on so long that people apparently feel they are entitled to things that are created and owned by someone else. Sad. I hope these bills prevail.

I can see your concern to downloading movies illegally and/or music, but I think this goes way overboard. There is a thing called "fair Use," which I support and all this will do is make people afraid to post pictures and text because they would need a lawyer to figure things out at best or not post anything out of fear. all it is is a power grab by government and the people in their pockets to stifle the easy flow of information instead of adapting to it. As one of my heroes, Harry Mudd, from Star Trek puts it, "Knowledge, sir, should be free to all." B-) This will stifle the flow of knowledge. The old ways are gone, the spread of knowledge is so easy now, maybe we need to restructure the idea of intellectual property itself, redefine it somehow, unlike your house, land, car, software and possessions, it has a bit of intangibility to it. As the saying goes, it either has to put up or shut up with the reality of today and/or adapt or die. This law will stifle creativity and it will drive more things from our shores to other places to make it go underground. I think the way things are is good enough.
37 posted on 01/17/2012 10:54:36 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Holodeck Computer: End Obama Administration simulation program, NOW!!!!)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...

This is happening today, Wednesday, January 18, 2012.


38 posted on 01/17/2012 11:33:08 PM PST by nutmeg
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The blackout is active now. Hit the stop button on your browser to avoid the bounce to the blackout page.

Liberals only complain when their liberties are in jeopardy. Now they’re getting a dose of their own statist medicine. Tools.


39 posted on 01/17/2012 11:37:35 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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Google is also participating with a black strip over the word ‘Christ’. /s


40 posted on 01/17/2012 11:40:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (C'mon, Virginia -- are you with us or against us?!)
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To: abb
There is no need for copyright.

You produce IP, it's up to you to capitalize on it before someone else does!

41 posted on 01/17/2012 11:42:10 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Nachum

ping


42 posted on 01/17/2012 11:44:39 PM PST by nutmeg
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To: Gene Eric
Hit the stop button on your browser to avoid the bounce to the blackout page.

Disabling JavaScript for the sites in question may also help. Works for the Wikipedia, at least.

43 posted on 01/17/2012 11:45:40 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: pepsionice
We survived a million years without Wiki, so twenty-four hours won’t matter much.

We survived a million years without the internet. Now ask the nice librarian to help you find out about Bain Capital ...

44 posted on 01/17/2012 11:51:18 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: abb
Hmm...suddenly those of us who were relegated to the category of right-wing paranoids turn out to be correct on the issue on which we've been speaking out for years. And suddenly the people who are doing their best to manipulate and deride us are asking for our help. How nice.

We want people to trust Wikipedia, not worry that it is trying to propagandize them.

Well, it is and has been doing precisely that. And the sad thing is that we have to side with them now because the alternative is worse. Fine. I've gone on record with my Rep and Senators, and I didn't need a black splotch on Google to tell me to do so. I've found myself in the same foxhole as these guys but I don't have to like it and I don't have to like them because they sure as hell don't like me.

45 posted on 01/17/2012 11:52:16 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: nutmeg

Snotty move. A flash page, would be fine. But a complete blackout annoys, rather than informs people.


46 posted on 01/18/2012 1:12:52 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: transducer

Good point.


47 posted on 01/18/2012 3:20:10 AM PST by Democrat_media (China is destroying all our jobs and manufacturing ability. China makes everything.)
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To: abb

But could a law such as SOPA most likely in up in a court setting?


48 posted on 01/18/2012 3:24:48 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Biggirl

Without doubt.


49 posted on 01/18/2012 3:27:08 AM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

Craigslist Blackout.


50 posted on 01/18/2012 4:57:06 AM PST by miami33
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