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Poll shows Perry losing Texas, in third place
NewsOK ^ | January 17, 2012 | David Freddoso

Posted on 01/17/2012 10:13:34 AM PST by PAConservative1

From Public Policy Polling, this is really bad news for Rick Perry -- although at this point it cannot be unexpected:

Rick Perry's Presidential campaign is doing about as bad in Texas now as it is everywhere else in the country. When PPP last polled the state in September he was at 49%, leading Mitt Romney by 39 points. Now Perry's support has declined by 31 points, leaving him in 3rd place at 18%. Mitt Romney at 24% and Newt Gingrich at 23% lead the way with Rick Santorum at 15%, Ron Paul at 12%, and Buddy Roemer at 0% rounding out the field behind Perry.

What might be most shocking on this poll is that Romney edges Perry 46-45 if Republican voters had to pick just between the two of them. When we asked that identical question four monhs ago Perry led Romney 72-18. There's been a 55 point shift in Romney's direction.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012polls; captaingardasil; heartless; larazarick; lol; perry; perry2012; perry2016; perry2020; rickperry; rinorick; slickrick; texas; tx; tx2012
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1 posted on 01/17/2012 10:13:42 AM PST by PAConservative1
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To: PAConservative1

FWIW, I find Rick Perry more entertaining than Ron Paul. And far more sane.


2 posted on 01/17/2012 10:18:20 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Liz; trumandogz; shield; altura; Cincinatus' Wife

Curious about your guys’ opinions on this!


3 posted on 01/17/2012 10:19:47 AM PST by PAConservative1
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To: PAConservative1

Perry’s been done for a long time. I was astonished he didn’t withdraw. I guess he really wanted to help RINO Romney by splitting the vote. Either that or he really is as stupid as he comes across.


4 posted on 01/17/2012 10:21:04 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: PAConservative1

I’m amazed at the continuing concerted effort to get Perry out of this race. As Rush said, liberals will tell you who they’re afraid of.


5 posted on 01/17/2012 10:22:50 AM PST by Kenny
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To: RIghtwardHo

Perry is polling so low that I don’t think he hurts anyone else in the race. He is a non-factor.

He really is as stupid as he comes across though.


6 posted on 01/17/2012 10:29:20 AM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: RIghtwardHo

I have been thinking about it for awhile now ... and I have come to the conclusion that Perry stayed in to gain experience with debating for another run in 2016 where he will be the next in line.


7 posted on 01/17/2012 10:30:16 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Go Newt!)
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To: Kenny
I’m amazed at the continuing concerted effort to get Perry out of this race. As Rush said, liberals will tell you who they’re afraid of.

This is one of the most astounding examples of self-delusion I've ever seen.

Personally, I'm amazed at the continuing concerted effort by Perry to get Perry out of this race.

8 posted on 01/17/2012 10:30:31 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: PAConservative1

Crosstabs if anyone is interested


9 posted on 01/17/2012 10:33:55 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Kenny

As a Texan, this is not surprising. Two elections back he got only 39% of the vote in a four-person field. Perry is the default candidate here - if he ever had a decent opponent, he’d be gone in the primary.


10 posted on 01/17/2012 10:34:08 AM PST by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: PAConservative1
Remember the Alamo!

Remember the Alamo?...

11 posted on 01/17/2012 10:35:31 AM PST by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: PAConservative1

I supported Perry, but it does look like he’s near the end of the road.


12 posted on 01/17/2012 10:37:45 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Election 2012 - America stands or falls. No more excuses. Get involved.)
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To: Free Vulcan

Perry won the debate last night...it’s no where near the end of the road yet.


14 posted on 01/17/2012 10:39:55 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

60% of those polls said they approve of Perry’s performance as Governor.


15 posted on 01/17/2012 10:40:13 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: KansasGirl

polls = polled


16 posted on 01/17/2012 10:41:49 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Yep.

17 posted on 01/17/2012 10:42:37 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: PAConservative1; Cincinatus' Wife; altura; normy

Romney’s the pick in my beloved home state??

What’s the world coming to!

And Mitt’s the pick in SC and FL.

There would be your story.

Just a guess, but for those who might say they won’t vote for Rick who were formerly supportive, they might be sick of him casting the pearls of Texas before the swine who prefer to ignore what he and we have wrought here, and would prefer he stop and come back home.

That said, there’s no excuse for a plurality of Texas Republicans to pick Romney.

That would say far more about what is wrong with them than it would say about Perry.

Just like the misplaced glee in your post, along with your missing the key story of Romney surging among southern Republicans, says more about you than anyone else...


18 posted on 01/17/2012 10:43:07 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: pgkdan

Newt won the debate last night, but Perry did very well. Too bad we didn’t see this Perry early on.


19 posted on 01/17/2012 10:43:12 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: pgkdan

PPP was around long before they did any polling for Daily Kos, and they are on average an accurate pollster (the fact that they had Perry leading overwhelmingly back when they originally polled TX should clue you into that).


20 posted on 01/17/2012 10:43:26 AM PST by PAConservative1
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To: Strategerist

Perry is the best candidate. Took second only to Newt last night. And I loved when he called the lib press on “despicable” as related to our troops. He’s honest, passionate, and the man I’d like to see as our President. But he continues to get hammered as unelectable, the stupid flip-side of Romney being electable.

How did we get here?


21 posted on 01/17/2012 10:46:37 AM PST by Kenny
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To: PAConservative1; altura; Cincinatus' Wife; normy

I just gave you mine, although you didn’t ping me.

The story is that Romney is ahead across the south.

In polls.

If that’s true, and holds true, we are all in a world of hurt.

Your take is your usual.

And we all know what that means.


22 posted on 01/17/2012 10:46:56 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Strategerist

Perry is the best candidate. Took second only to Newt last night. And I loved when he called the lib press on “despicable” as related to our troops. He’s honest, passionate, and the man I’d like to see as our President. But he continues to get hammered as unelectable, the stupid flip-side of Romney being electable.

How did we get here?


23 posted on 01/17/2012 10:46:56 AM PST by Kenny
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

So why do so many on FR seem to think he’s the Second Coming? Or Third Coming, I guess, since Obama already took that title...


24 posted on 01/17/2012 10:48:14 AM PST by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: txrangerette

Romney is only ahead because the conservatives are splitting the vote. Naturally, he’ll only be beaten once Perry and one of Santorum/Gingrich drop out. That’s not new info.


25 posted on 01/17/2012 10:51:32 AM PST by PAConservative1
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To: PAConservative1

Perry won’t even be in the hunt anymore by the time Texas has its primary.


26 posted on 01/17/2012 10:52:07 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: PAConservative1

This poll just shows me that Texans have bought into the media’s Perry is not electable meme. His 60% approval rating does not transfer to votes because they have been told over and over he can’t beat Obama which is completely untrue. I’m just not seeing what you find humorous about the media leading GOP voters over a cliff with Romney?


27 posted on 01/17/2012 10:53:24 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Vigilanteman

Perry is more stable than RP!!!


28 posted on 01/17/2012 10:58:24 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: RIghtwardHo

The problem as I see it is all the candidates have swelled heads and think they can win. None think the end is near even when they are losing!


29 posted on 01/17/2012 11:00:55 AM PST by tallyhoe
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To: Kenny

“Perry is the best candidate. Took second only to Newt last night. And I loved when he called the lib press on “despicable” as related to our troops. He’s honest, passionate, and the man I’d like to see as our President. But he continues to get hammered as unelectable, the stupid flip-side of Romney being electable.

How did we get here?”

Perry also called conservatives “heartless”. Who gives a crap?

The man is not presidential material.


30 posted on 01/17/2012 11:10:15 AM PST by CSI007
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To: Vigilanteman

Polls are for strippers.


31 posted on 01/17/2012 11:10:33 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Kenny

Liberals like PAConservative have been working hard to that end...it’s not over yet though !


32 posted on 01/17/2012 11:10:41 AM PST by magritte
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To: magritte
it’s not over yet though

From your lips to God's ears. I really felt like Perry was our only real choice last night, the only one who can win and keep his word.

33 posted on 01/17/2012 11:13:09 AM PST by Kenny
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To: PAConservative1

Who’s Buddy Roemer? And why is his name in the poll?


34 posted on 01/17/2012 11:18:01 AM PST by mtrott
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
As a Texan, this is not surprising. Two elections back he got only 39% of the vote in a four-person field. Perry is the default candidate here - if he ever had a decent opponent, he’d be gone in the primary.

True. This poll just confirms what most Texas conservatives know and feel about Perry. He's a wet fingered wind sock puppet surrounded by his team of cronies to feed him homespun sound bites.

35 posted on 01/17/2012 11:19:21 AM PST by TADSLOS (Gingrich-Santorum FTW!)
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To: PAConservative1

Great message (the federalism part, anyway), flawed messenger. Sigh.


36 posted on 01/17/2012 11:22:27 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Never mind.)
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To: al_c
Perry won’t even be in the hunt anymore by the time Texas has its primary.

Rick Perry is in last place, the only candidate in single digits.

He's not in the hunt now nor has he been for months.

37 posted on 01/17/2012 11:33:05 AM PST by South40 (Just say NO to pro-ILLEGAL alien RINOS!)
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To: PAConservative1; altura; Cincinatus' Wife; normy

Not long ago, Newt led these polls, before that, Cain, before that, Perry.

The big picture is that Romney wasn’t getting a plurality in the southern states. Split vote and all...there were poll leaders and they weren’t named Mitt.

THat appears to have changed.

That truth hurts us all; it hurts Conservatives; it hurts America.

Perry has a double burden...he’s off running for President and not doing very well, therefore Texans could well take a dim view of that.

Which would help both Newt and Santorum among those who know better than to vote Romney, to poll as high as they do compared to their own Governor.

But that Romney has moved up this much in the southern tier is highly disturbing.


38 posted on 01/17/2012 11:33:05 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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39 posted on 01/17/2012 11:34:33 AM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: PAConservative1
Midday humor.

"Buddy Roemer at 0%"

Yep. Can't help but chuckle at that.

40 posted on 01/17/2012 11:35:42 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Charles Martel
"Buddy Roemer at 0%"
Yep. Can't help but chuckle at that.

Well that's only because they didn't go down to .00000001% of the vote in their tally.
Otherwise he'd be right in there :^)

41 posted on 01/17/2012 11:42:15 AM PST by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: South40

Agreed he’s currently not in the hunt. Allow me to clarify ... he wont be actively campaigning when we get our chance to vote ... won’t even be on the ballot.


42 posted on 01/17/2012 11:42:47 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: South40

But the Perry clingers will continue to ride him until they all collectively go broke trying to keep this zombie campaign alive.


43 posted on 01/17/2012 11:45:34 AM PST by montyspython ((Romney-Perry-Obama ... No Way))
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon
I am surprised in that Texas has prospered and grown under Perry's governance. The Texans I have known over the years are a gracious people.
44 posted on 01/17/2012 11:46:30 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Kenny

“How did we get here?”

Everything’s upside down, isn’t it? Conservatives flocking to Romney despite the fact that he is a liberal with blood on his hands-—after the Tea Party success of 2010! And people here taking gleeful pleasure in tearing apart a solid conservative Christian. Disagreement is one thing-—but the pack mentality, the yapping and screeching like packs of hyenas toward ONE OF OUR OWN is absolutely inexplicable to me.

I have a theory, and it’s only my personal one. The country is in moral collapse; I believe God may have abandoned us to ourselves, and to the leaders we deserve.


45 posted on 01/17/2012 11:47:50 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: txrangerette

“But that Romney has moved up this much in the southern tier is highly disturbing.”

You can say that again. All along I thought Romney didn’t have a prayer here in the South. What I’m seeing is knocking me for a loop. I wonder if this country is beyond redemption.


46 posted on 01/17/2012 11:50:22 AM PST by CatherineofAragon
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To: Liberty Valance

Kinky Friedman?


47 posted on 01/17/2012 11:54:10 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I wonder if this country is beyond redemption.

The sign it's beyond redemption is if Obama wins Texas in the general. Then, we're there... it's over.

48 posted on 01/17/2012 11:55:54 AM PST by ScottinVA (Liberal logic: 0bamacare mandate is acceptable... but voter IDs are unconstitutional.)
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To: txrangerette; hocndoc; Cincinatus' Wife; Kenny

The whole reason the Republcian establishment is promoting Romney as our candidate, is that he can attract liberal Democrats who will not support a Communist like Obama.

What you are seeing in the polls, and who are voting in these open primaries, are not just Republicans but Democrats.


49 posted on 01/17/2012 12:01:53 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: PAConservative1
I'm more curious about your guy calling fiscal conservatives cheap liberals. Should I be really upset by that?
50 posted on 01/17/2012 12:05:54 PM PST by Quicksilver (nominate Rick Perry - defeat Obama - overhaul Washington!)
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