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Missouri court rejects warrantless DWI blood test
The Kansas City Star ^ | January 17, 2012 | None Listed

Posted on 01/17/2012 4:31:51 PM PST by MissouriConservative

The Missouri Supreme Court has thrown out the results of a blood test on an unwilling suspect in a routine drunken-driving stop, ruling the officer should have obtained a judge’s warrant for the test.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansascity.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Mississippi
KEYWORDS: alcohol; court; dui; madd
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To: MissouriConservative

The original article was about a blood draw without a court order..... someone started cheering for getting rid of ‘check points’. My point is a valid one.... if people do not drive after drinking then there is no need for check points. The entitled sense that liberty is the same as license is what hurts so many of us. The laws get written to punish the few bad apples. It shouldn’t be that way but it is. As a conservative, I consider it my responsibility to act reasonablty so others are not interferred with by uneccessary regulations......


41 posted on 01/17/2012 6:34:54 PM PST by Nifster
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To: JDW11235

Well, I used to write software for various court systems.

Many court systems are indistinguishable from organized crime.

The fees and fines are not reported accurately to anybody. And many times the judges just steal from the court. I was prevented, time and again, from implementing standard accounting practices. I dont know of any court that has standard accounting practices. It just gets deposited into some mysterious bank account and disappears. If you try to figure it out, your contract ends. So you just shut up.

That is why litigation exploded in the sixties.

Don’t tell anybody I told you this. lol

Further details will not be forthcoming.


42 posted on 01/17/2012 6:36:32 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: Nifster

Well well well, a nazi boot licker.

How them boots taste there, ya scum?


43 posted on 01/17/2012 6:36:54 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Nifster

There is no law against driving after drinking. There is only a law against driving after drinking enough to put your blood level over .08. You sir, are not a conservative. You are a nazi.


44 posted on 01/17/2012 6:39:19 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: Nifster

There is no need for checkpoints, period, in a free society. First you have checkpoints for DUI, then you have checkpoints for checking insurance cards, then you have checkpoints that look for anything wrong with your car, whether or not you’re wearing a seatbelt, etc. Then there are checkpoints to check to see if your papers are in order as you move between states.

Why not just take your idea to the extreme...take away cars. Then there would be no need for checkpoints at all would there?


45 posted on 01/17/2012 6:45:25 PM PST by MissouriConservative (Voting "None of the Above" in 2012.)
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46 posted on 01/17/2012 6:46:54 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: FoxPro

I’ll keep my lips—zipped!


47 posted on 01/17/2012 6:48:44 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: unixfox

“They started this crap in Austin about 3 years ago. They called it “No Refuse Weekend” But only on certain holidays like July 4th and New Years Eve...Then it became every weekend.”

Great to have a governor that looks out for our Constitutional rights...LOL.


48 posted on 01/17/2012 6:48:44 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: JDW11235

You remind us why we need to expand thew definition of capital crimes.

No deterrent, extirmination


49 posted on 01/17/2012 6:49:45 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..... Crucifixion is coming)
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To: GourmetDan

WOw that is terrible. I hadn’t heard, but I’m not surprised. It’s news like that that really makes you sick.


50 posted on 01/17/2012 6:50:36 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: bert

I hear you. I think there’s little worse than the abuse of authority for personal gain. Taking away someone’s life (even if only a few years) in order to make money, is not much different than killing them for those years. I say, we return in kind. Prison does not change people for the better, only for the worse. If we’re going to root out the problem, like you said, no deterrence. Just eliminate the corruption the old fashioned way.


51 posted on 01/17/2012 6:58:37 PM PST by JDW11235 (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Nifster

“The best way to end DUI check points is for folks to quit driving after drinking....I have no sympathy for those who get caught.”

I think you posted on the wrong site today.

Here you go, this one is for fascists who don’t respect the Constitution: http://www.democraticunderground.com/


52 posted on 01/17/2012 7:01:36 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: JDW11235

“I read an article right here on FR about two months ago about some law that made being a PASSENGER in a vehicle while drunk a crime. I remember because they were saying something about taxi’s and limo companies being effected. Does anyone remember that?”

Don’t mention it too loud, our governor here in Texas might hear about it.


53 posted on 01/17/2012 7:03:03 PM PST by BobL ("Heartless" and "Inhumane" FReepers for Cain - we've HAD ENOUGH)
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To: FoxPro

Seems in your little trap you might have said “I write software for the courts.” That would have marked you as “too unsafe to hassle.”


54 posted on 01/17/2012 7:39:11 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: BobL; All

I remember this. It was a tiff over what counted as “public intoxication.” Seemed it was just a court decision away.

Anyhow, all this crying and moaning on some private bulletin board, and the “finest” of Sin City won’t give a poop about it — why should they? If this place started Freeps as often as DU started their liberal protests, then maybe it would be more than just some make believe freedom.


55 posted on 01/17/2012 7:42:52 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Sometimes progressives find their scripture in the penumbra of sacred bathroom stall writings (Tzar))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes, and hindsight is 20/20.

That probably would have worked.

I just wasent aware of the scam I was being ushered into at the time.


56 posted on 01/17/2012 7:52:51 PM PST by FoxPro
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To: Mustang Driver; Hot Tabasco

You guys are far from alone.


57 posted on 01/17/2012 7:57:01 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Nifster
My point is a valid one.... if people do not drive after drinking then there is no need for check points.

You think check points would go away if they didn't catch any DUIs?

They'd catch someone for something. Improper child seat. Burnt out tail light. Paperwork not in order.

58 posted on 01/17/2012 9:14:27 PM PST by Crichton
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To: MissouriConservative

“Why not just take your idea to the extreme...take away cars. Then there would be no need for checkpoints at all would there?”

once your car has a gps, and you have a biochip installed, they will know all they need to, and roving loyalty checks and thought-checks will be all that is called for.

And if you think it is fiction, how many of you saw the current reality 30 years ago?


59 posted on 01/17/2012 10:36:23 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Nifster

You are definitely on the wrong website.

The Constitution-haters hang out on Democratic Underground.


60 posted on 01/17/2012 10:55:39 PM PST by Politicalmom (Lazamataz for president!! NO MORE RINOS!!)
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