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Perry Draws Attention to Santorum’s Catholicism (in fairness more to his vote on Sotomayor]
National Review Online ^ | January 17, 2012 | Brian Bolduc

Posted on 01/18/2012 2:09:05 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

[snip]

"Here’s the quotation that’s getting the most attention:

“Rick Santorum is a good man. He is a good father. He is a good Catholic. But he hasn’t always been a good conservative. And I make exceptions with his vote for Sonya Sotomayor as a for instance. That is a really liberal jurist that he helped put on track to become a Supreme Court jurist back when he voted to allow her to be on the Appellate Court. I mean, she is pro-abortion, would be my estimation of that. I mean, Obama is a very liberal president and she is reflective of his philosophy. So, I mean, there were 29 conservatives that voted against her. People like Strom Thurmond and Rick voted for her. So the idea that, you know, he is a pure social conservative, this flies right in the face of it … On the fiscal side, Rick, he has a horrid record when it comes to earmarks and defending spending. The idea that you can vote for all those earmarks and call yourself a fiscal conservative is just ludicrous on its face. That is why we have a tea party today. … So like I said, good man, good father and husband, good Catholic, but not always a good conservative.”

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: catholic; conservatism; gopprimary; holierthanthou; perry2012; perry2016; perry2020; religioncard; santorum2012; stromthurmond
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To: ari-freedom

It is definitely true that Strom Thurmond moved left the longer he was in the Senate; not true though of Jesse Helms, who never wavered in his constitutionalism. Most of the “conservatives” are further left than their constitutents realize, such as Lugar and Hatch, even Thad Cochran has not always held the line.


101 posted on 01/18/2012 6:09:25 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for the Right Rick --Santorum-- if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: txrangerette
Insults haven’t stopped her and they won’t.

Well, lack of results sure as heck hasn't stopped the Perry campaign. Nor the non-stop efforts to blame everyone but Perry and his campaign for their failures to date.

But at some point, if Perry fails to get traction in SC, the excuse machine has to stop and the realization has to sink in that all he is doing is helping Mitt by splitting the conservative vote.

102 posted on 01/18/2012 6:11:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: txrangerette
BTW, look at Romney’s poll numbers.

Yeah. Newt+Rick+Rick > Romney in all cases. Which is what Mitt has been counting on all along.

103 posted on 01/18/2012 6:16:17 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

Head, meet wall.

Wall, meet head.

Bang, Bang, Bang!


104 posted on 01/18/2012 6:17:43 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: dirtboy

You’re always the sweet poster dirtboy.

Thank you for all you have done to elevate discussion on FR.


105 posted on 01/18/2012 6:18:37 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: JDW11235
There’ll be no surge. “Margin of error” Rick Perry has never been popular since he first opened his yap to tell us we were heartless bigots if we didn’t agree with his socialist subsidy of foreigners. Perry’s Mitt’s stalking horse, he’s never had a chance, and was going to get out after Iowa, but is making sure to rough up the other candidates on behalf of Mitt.

Amazing. You can look in the mirror and not laugh when you say something so off the wall wrong?

106 posted on 01/18/2012 6:21:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette
Head, meet wall. Wall, meet head. Bang, Bang, Bang!

It's a lot easier to accept the truth than to bang your head against the wall denying it.

There is still utterly no sign of a Perry surge. When do the excuses end?

107 posted on 01/18/2012 6:21:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Thank you for all you have done to elevate discussion on FR.

This coming from a known campaign operative who uses FR for free to bash the other candidates for the Perry campaign.

Stuff it, slug.

108 posted on 01/18/2012 6:25:02 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

I try to be nice and you only seem to blow up when I do.

I don’t plan on going away and your nasty attitude toward me at this point has become a joke to everyone.


109 posted on 01/18/2012 6:33:01 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy

Have you stopped her yet?????????

LOL

Perry will stop when he decides to.

CW will stop when she decides to.

And in real life, I’d put money on the line if I bet, which I don’t, that people who have the free will to do as they decide, don’t stop doing it whenever you show up and start ordering them around.

Not even non-stop insults would cause them to.


110 posted on 01/18/2012 6:34:48 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: txrangerette
Have you stopped her yet?????????

Oh, I am well aware that she will do the Perry campaign's dirty work on FR until the Perry campaign throws in the towel.

However, I can point out how counterproductive to the effort to stop Romney that continued campaigning is, lest anyone fall for the horse manure she and the campaign is shovelling.

111 posted on 01/18/2012 6:37:40 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy

How has defending Rick Perry’s record and pointing out how the other candidates don’t compare with his conservative record make me doing dirty work?

You can only stomp your feet and scream at me online because it is the truth you can’t handle.


112 posted on 01/18/2012 6:39:55 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy
I have followed CW’s posts pretty closely and I have not seen her bash the other candidates. I have seen and still see the Perry bashing as well as bashing of other candidates but not by CW. I think you are talking out of your butt.
113 posted on 01/18/2012 6:40:43 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I don’t plan on going away and your nasty attitude toward me at this point has become a joke to everyone.

Oh, I know you are not going away, you are doing the Perry campaign's bidding on FR.

I am simply pointing out that the Perry campaign has run out of excuses and staying in at this point is only doing Mitt's bidding, whether by design or by accident (I believe the latter).

Your reputation in this campaign was forged long ago, you just don't like me calling a spade a spade, or in your case, a slug a slug.

114 posted on 01/18/2012 6:41:21 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Ditter
I have followed CW’s posts pretty closely and I have not seen her bash the other candidates. I have seen and still see the Perry bashing as well as bashing of other candidates but not by CW.

Oh, horsecrap. She has started plenty of threads bashing other candidates and made posts on threads bashing the other conservatives.

I think you are talking out of your butt.

Take your head out of yours.

115 posted on 01/18/2012 6:43:08 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How has defending Rick Perry’s record and pointing out how the other candidates don’t compare with his conservative record make me doing dirty work?

Bashing the other conservatives IS the campaign's dirty work, CW. You just don't like it being described truthfully.

116 posted on 01/18/2012 6:44:09 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
Oh, I know you are not going away, you are doing the Perry campaign's bidding on FR.

You are so off base. I have no connection to any campaign or political party or group. None. But then you can't imagine someone who would spend so much time and effort trying to promote a candidate unless they were paid or part of a campaign. Sorry but I do it because I truly believe he will seal the border, protect our country, return rights to the states, select strict Constitutional conservatives to the SC, stump with candidates nation-wide to elect conservatives who want to shrink government and not stop until he drops.

117 posted on 01/18/2012 6:46:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: dirtboy
And you of course, never bashed anybody. Innocent as the driven snow you are. Who put all those nasty keywords on the Perry threads? I think Jim Rob slowed that down a little. Don't remember seeing them on the threads of other candidates to the degree of Perrys.
118 posted on 01/18/2012 6:47:57 AM PST by Ditter
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To: dirtboy

Off to the real world for now...

Where I WON’T be going up to people and issuing orders and flinging insults in expectation of stopping them from that which they have freely and lawfully chosen to do.

But I suppose I MIGHT see you out there, trying to do that, to no avail we can all be certain.


119 posted on 01/18/2012 6:51:33 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You are so off base. I have no connection to any campaign or political party or group. None.

And on the internet, how can that be proven? It can't.

So I will look at the fact that you show up on FR every day armed with the latest Perry talking points, both for Perry and against the other candidates. And leave it for others to decide.

But then you can't imagine someone who would spend so much time and effort trying to promote a candidate unless they were paid or part of a campaign.

Actually, I can. I put a tremendous amount of effort into a congressional campaign last election for free. However, I used FR to bash the Democrat in that campaign, not the other GOP candidates in the primary, in case one of the others was the eventual winner.

Like I have said in the past, I don't have a problem with your use of FR to promote Perry. I have disagreed on specific points, but that is the nature of debate. I strongly disagree with your use of FR to bash the other conservative candidates, and don't pretend you haven't done just that, I have seen the threads and responses.

However, at some point, Perry's campaign becomes counterproductive to the conservative moment. I waited to see if Perry showed a surge in SC. He hasn't. If he can't get above 12-15 percent or so in the voting, he should drop out. IMO he is trying to come in ahead of Santorum so Santorum would have to drop out instead of him. But if Newt is way ahead of both of them, both should drop out.

Sorry but I do it because I truly believe he will seal the border, protect our country, return rights to the states, select strict Constitutional conservatives to the SC, stump with candidates nation-wide to elect conservatives who want to shrink government and not stop until he drops.

And Mitt thanks you and Perry for your preserverance. Mitt's only shot is a divided conservative vote. Even if Perry only polls six percent, that can be the difference in a winner-takes-all primary.

If Perry can't get traction in SC, a state that should be friendly towards his candidacy, the excuses end.

120 posted on 01/18/2012 6:57:18 AM PST by dirtboy
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