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NYPD, Feds Testing Gun-Scanning Technology, But Civil Liberties Groups Up In Arms
CBS New York ^ | January 17, 2012 | CBS New York

Posted on 01/18/2012 4:31:09 PM PST by CedarDave

The NYPD is stepping up their war against illegal guns, with a new tool that could detect weapons on someone as they walk down the street.

But is it violating your right to privacy?

Police, along with the U.S. Department of Defense, are researching new technology in a scanner placed on police vehicles that can detect concealed weapons.

“You could use it at a specific event. You could use it at a shooting-prone location,” NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly told CBS 2′s Hazel Sanchez on Tuesday.

It’s called Terahertz Imaging Detection. It measures the energy radiating from a body up to 16 feet away, and can detect anything blocking it, like a gun.

And the idea is causing quite the uproar on both sides of the privacy issue.

~~snip~~

Police Commissioner Kelly said the scanner would only be used in reasonably suspicious circumstances and could cut down on the number of stop-and-frisks on the street.

But the New York Civil Liberties Union is raising a red flag.

“It’s worrisome. It implicates privacy, the right to walk down the street without being subjected to a virtual pat-down by the Police Department when you’re doing nothing wrong,” the NYCLU’s Donna Lieberman said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newyork.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guns; secondamendment
What isn't stated in this article the amount of damage to human DNA caused by Terahertz imaging:

How Terahertz Waves Tear Apart DNA

Alexandrov and co have created a model to investigate how THz fields interact with double-stranded DNA and what they've found is remarkable. They say that although the forces generated are tiny, resonant effects allow THz waves to unzip double-stranded DNA, creating bubbles in the double strand that could significantly interfere with processes such as gene expression and DNA replication. That's a jaw dropping conclusion.

1 posted on 01/18/2012 4:31:20 PM PST by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

In short, they’re subjecting people to the same kind of radiation they’d get from a microwave oven.

If they were INSIDE it.

Yeah, that can’t be bad.

And, of course, if one of us plebes was to aim such a device at a cop or a politician we’d be beaten and then prosecuted for assault.


2 posted on 01/18/2012 4:35:28 PM PST by MeganC (No way in Hell am I voting for Mitt Romney. Not now, not ever. Deal with it.)
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To: MeganC
Link to a Drudge article that can't be posted on FR:

NYC Moves to Deploy Body Scanners on Street in Search for Guns...

3 posted on 01/18/2012 4:39:34 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: CedarDave

I wonder if anyone else is worried about a police state besides me?


4 posted on 01/18/2012 4:42:21 PM PST by Logical me
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To: CedarDave

Mylar jackets will be the hot new fashion.


5 posted on 01/18/2012 4:47:46 PM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Logical me
I wonder if anyone else is worried about a police state besides me?

Me worried? No. But I am forwarding your post to #attackwatch and flag@whitehouse.gov; just to be safe citizen.

6 posted on 01/18/2012 4:48:10 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy Saints surrounded)
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To: Charles Martel

Lead jackets might be the latest fashion trend?


7 posted on 01/18/2012 4:50:52 PM PST by FishinTX
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To: Logical me

You’re right to worry - we are there.


8 posted on 01/18/2012 4:56:01 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: CedarDave

They’re welcome to point that thing at me...just as soon as they show me the search warrant, supported by oath or affirmation of my accuser, and particularly describing the thing(s) to be seized which I am accused of having on my person.

Of course, once I’ve read the warrant, I’ll willingly empty my pockets for them, or take off my jacket, or whatever they like. Show me the warrant and we’ll all get along just fine.


9 posted on 01/18/2012 4:57:51 PM PST by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Charles Martel

Mylar? Would that really work?

Hmmm... I DO sew....and could use some extra money!


10 posted on 01/18/2012 4:59:11 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (I'm endorsing O'bama AND Romney as all my guys & gals don't make it very far. Go Barry! Go Mitt!)
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To: Charles Martel

Mylar jackets? does Mylar block detection?

(This ole great gramma wants to know ;o)...)


11 posted on 01/18/2012 5:00:08 PM PST by maine-iac7 (A prudent man foreseeth the evil,... but the simple pass on, and are punished. Prov 23:3 KJV)
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To: CedarDave

(Police Commissioner Kelly said the scanner would only be used in reasonably suspicious circumstances)

Well then, that’s good enough for me! Just like citizens believed that only 2000 people would be subject to the income tax when it was passed, or that Social Security would not be raided, and countless other promises from the government.


12 posted on 01/18/2012 5:01:43 PM PST by winner3000 (ss)
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To: CedarDave

this is no different than that police using tech scanners to look into homes without a warrent.

the USSC already said no.

Bloomberg is a jerk for allowing this.

We are “smart enough” to vote for the idiot but not smart enough to run our own lives. If the police have money for this nonsense then the police have too much money.


13 posted on 01/18/2012 5:02:23 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Logical me

No I’m worried too about this police state crap too.

This “security” over liberty thing has gotten out of control.

I grew up with thousands of soviet ICBM missiles aimed at us and it didn’t bother me in the least.

Have we really become a nation of cowards afraid of our shadow?


14 posted on 01/18/2012 5:03:51 PM PST by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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To: CedarDave
"What isn't stated in this article the amount of damage to human DNA caused by Terahertz imaging:"

Why don't you read the article? The source of the radiation is the person themselvees, because they happen to be at a normal temperature. They're just looking at a long wavelength region of the subjects' own black-body emmisions. \

IOWs there are no health effects and any claims that there are amounts to rubbish.

15 posted on 01/18/2012 5:04:10 PM PST by spunkets
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To: CedarDave

NY Congressman Emanuel Cellar’s 1966 dream of scanner for guns has come to life. God help us all.


16 posted on 01/18/2012 5:11:44 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban. Issue MORE BEER!)
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To: LearsFool

You don’t understand. In NYC, the Constitution, especially the 2nd amendment, means nothing. People are now routinely arrested for carrying fully licensed weapons, even with CCW licenses. They don’t give a good goddamn.

Anyone who would live in NYC under this regime is an idiot. A blithering idiot.


17 posted on 01/18/2012 5:29:58 PM PST by RightOnline
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18 posted on 01/18/2012 5:31:34 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: CedarDave
Ah New York!

The greatest Rat, Roach, Bedbug, Nanny State infested $hithole on earth.

It's fun to watch as the Mayor takes control of the daily lives of the citizens. Yes you hear the complaints. But he is still there. And every few months he comes up with a new way to intrude into their lives.

Ed

19 posted on 01/18/2012 5:31:34 PM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: spunkets
IOWs there are no health effects and any claims that there are amounts to rubbish.

Not according to the linked article in my first comment:

But a new generation of cameras are set to appear that not only record terahertz waves but also bombard us with them. And if our exposure is set to increase, the question that urgently needs answering is what level of terahertz exposure is safe.

20 posted on 01/18/2012 5:50:31 PM PST by CedarDave (Donna Brazile: "... we we believe that the weakest candidate ... [is] Mitt Romney.")
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To: CedarDave

You don’t have a right to record cops in public, but they have a right to zap you with their x-ray vision DNA-disruptor whenever they feel like it.


21 posted on 01/18/2012 6:43:05 PM PST by Joe the Pimpernel
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To: CedarDave

They are also failing to mention that this is a violation of the 4th amendment. Even if these waves did no damage to DNA this would be illegal according to our constitution. Illegal search and seizure.


22 posted on 01/18/2012 7:15:41 PM PST by calex59
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To: Joe the Pimpernel

23 posted on 01/18/2012 7:17:50 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: FishinTX

Lead jackets? or jacketed lead? :)


24 posted on 01/18/2012 10:01:02 PM PST by Apogee (Just thinking again, got to stop that...)
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