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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I was just a kid in 1960 but I remember well the fallout shelter craze, CONELRAD, and the ethical debate over the problem of unprepared neighbors. Your perspective shows that survival preparation is nothing new.

Since we go back that far, you must be familiar with Pat Frank’s “Alas Babylon” and the survival manual he wrote later. Also at the time Earl Stanley Gardner of Perry Mason fame published “How to Survive” in several issues of Field & Stream magazine. His favorite survival firearm was a .22 caliber handgun.

My favorite Pat Frank quote: “The day may come when a pound of tobacco is worth more than a pound of gold.”


32 posted on 01/21/2012 10:06:24 AM PST by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: elcid1970

***My favorite Pat Frank quote: “The day may come when a pound of tobacco is worth more than a pound of gold.”***

I remember when Kurt Saxon was on the Phil Donahue show. When asked about buying gold, she said that in a collapse of civilization gold will do you no good. Invest in sewing needles, he said.

But then, he was expecting a complete collapse back to the stone age.

Most of my books are of the old Fur-Fish Game types from the 1930s. Hunting, trapping, living off the land, ect.


34 posted on 01/21/2012 10:15:52 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( P!$$ on the Taliban. Issue MORE BEER!)
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To: elcid1970
"Since we go back that far, you must be familiar with Pat Frank’s “Alas Babylon” and the survival manual he wrote later."

Alas Babylon was the first novel (non school related) that I bought. I think that I paid $0.25 for the paperback. I later read his "Forbidden Area", and I was hooked on reading for life. Recently came across a reprint of Alas, and bought it and reread it. I was never aware of the survival manual, might look for it.

52 posted on 01/21/2012 11:33:17 AM PST by matthew fuller (Mitt is not a used car salesman- he's an aborted fetus salesman! http://www.stopstericycle.com/)
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To: elcid1970
“The day may come when a pound of tobacco is worth more than a pound of gold.”

Bill Mauldin wrote a book (A Sort of a Saga) about his childhood in rural New Mexico, in the Ruidoso/Cloudcroft area.

He told of one episode in which a flood cut his area off from town, and the tobacco supply ran out.

It's been about 40 years since I read it, but as I recall the tobacco users went to some fairly extreme lengths to try to remedy the situation.

82 posted on 01/21/2012 2:31:39 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: elcid1970
My favorite Pat Frank quote: “The day may come when a pound of tobacco is worth more than a pound of gold.”

Yeah, but gold doesn't grow when you plant it :p
101 posted on 01/21/2012 6:28:56 PM PST by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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