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Posted on 01/24/2012 4:52:04 PM PST by BubbaJunebug
In the wake of the devastating Detroit riots of the summer of 1967, Michigan Gov. George Romney a liberal Republican met the radical organizer Saul Alinsky to discuss the grievances of the urban black poor. Now Romney's son is fighting for the Republican nomination, and his main rival, Newt Gingrich, has made Barack Obama's alleged ties to Alinsky a centerpiece of his campaign.
Ah, the ironies of history.
This is why I love FR.
O Reilly just had a segment with Combs and Crowly discussing Alinsky. Crowly got in the Obama had taught the class on Alinsky at U of CHicago. Can anyone get the segment and post a link here on FR.
It wasn’t nearly long enough, but it’s a start.
Also can’t find the short list of rules for radicals, not the book. Any one have it handy?
Don’t miss the picture. Papa Romney/Alinsky
He is not black, but he did dedicate his book RULES FOR RADICALs to Lucifer.
Hillary Clinton did her discertation on Alinsky....Remember she hid it for many years....She’s a follower
Alinsky taught classes in his methods at U of CHicago.
I have the following. I must have gotten it from here but I don’t remember who originally posted it. So without proper citation here it is -
Speaking of Alinskys Rules for Radicals... Here they are:
RULE 1: Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have. Power is derived from 2 main sources - money and people. Have-Nots must build power from flesh and blood. (These are two things of which there is a plentiful supply. Government and corporations always have a difficult time appealing to people, and usually do so almost exclusively with economic arguments.)
RULE 2: Never go outside the expertise of your people. It results in confusion, fear and retreat. Feeling secure adds to the backbone of anyone. (Organizations under attack wonder why radicals dont address the real issues. This is why. They avoid things with which they have no knowledge.)
RULE 3: Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
RULE 4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entitys very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the damage.)
RULE 5: Ridicule is mans most potent weapon. There is no defense. Its irrational. Its infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions. (Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
RULE 6: A good tactic is one your people enjoy. Theyll keep doing it without urging and come back to do more. Theyre doing their thing, and will even suggest better ones. (Radical activists, in this sense, are no different that any other human being. We all avoid un-fun activities, and but we revel at and enjoy the ones that work and bring results.)
RULE 7: A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Dont become old news. (Even radical activists get bored. So to keep them excited and involved, organizers are constantly coming up with new tactics.)
RULE 8: Keep the pressure on. Never let up. Keep trying new things to keep the opposition off balance. As the opposition masters one approach, hit them from the flank with something new. (Attack, attack, attack from all sides, never giving the reeling organization a chance to rest, regroup, recover and re-strategize.)
RULE 9: The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself. Imagination and ego can dream up many more consequences than any activist. (Perception is reality. Large organizations always prepare a worst-case scenario, something that may be furthest from the activists minds. The upshot is that the organization will expend enormous time and energy, creating in its own collective mind the direst of conclusions. The possibilities can easily poison the mind and result in demoralization.)
RULE 10: If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive. Violence from the other side can win the public to your side because the public sympathizes with the underdog. (Unions used this tactic. Peaceful [albeit loud] demonstrations during the heyday of unions in the early to mid-20th Century incurred managements wrath, often in the form of violence that eventually brought public sympathy to their side.)
RULE 11: The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative. Never let the enemy score points because youre caught without a solution to the problem. (Old saw: If youre not part of the solution, youre part of the problem. Activist organizations have an agenda, and their strategy is to hold a place at the table, to be given a forum to wield their power. So, they have to have a compromise solution.)
RULE 12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)
This guy, Andrew Kaczynski, suggests following him on twitter.
Apparently, he’s got it in for Romney!
GO Andrew Kaczynski!!!!
Old man Romney was also a liberal.
Thanks to Lucy t here is the short form of Rules for Radical previously posted on FR.
Keep it handy. We’ll need it in the next few months.
(Wish we had a tab for it.)
They look rather chummy together. The father looks as fake as the son, too.
I believe Rick Santorum would call this “an issue of character.”
Thanks. Lucy sent me her link and then found where my had been hidden...It wasn’t in the crashed computer after all.
Keep it handy, we’ll need it!
She's much more than a follower - she trained under Alinsky in Berkeley, and he asked her to be his successor. She declined, but only on a tactical difference of opinion. She felt she'd have more leverage going into politics, rather than working as an organizer. Then later she refined her leverage into going into politics behind Bill.
She's Stalin to Alinsky's Lenin.
Communists/progressives/liberals/fascist (or whatever they call themselves from election to election when they have to remake themselves to hide), stick together on the ultimate goals of overcoming the constitution, it’s people and culture. Some would do it fast and bloody (alinsky) and some would prefer to slowly boil the frog (Romney).
This was 1967, so yes Romney’s church was still denying blacks salvation when the meeting occurred.
If your goal is to influence people and effect change, Alinsky’s rules are powerful stuff. We don’t like how they’re used, but as the old yippies said “co-opt the man”...we need to use Alinsky’s rules against the other side; to do any less is to bring a knife to a gun fight.
Alinsky maybe was a genius. And evil one, but no dummy. Just like Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, and our old pal “Jen-gis Kahn”.
Yes he does. This is a GREAT campaign photo and narrative for Gingrich.
Guy all the way on right looks like Soros. less 40 plus years.
“Some would do it fast and bloody (alinsky) and some would prefer to slowly boil the frog (Romney).”
Agreed. So many look at Romney and just see the pompadour and the slick. They completely miss the fact that he is an ideological Trojan Horse.
Looking at the photos again I notice the body language between Alinsky and Romney. Romney is subordinate. He hunches and bows to the smaller Alinsky, who stands loose, confident and even puffed up.
Alinsky’s rules are good tactics but as yet an unproven strategy.
“Alinskys rules are good tactics but as yet an unproven strategy.”
Well maybe....but it sure seems to work on McConnell and Boehner
All plagiarized of course, from Antonio Gramsci..
I don’t remember meeting G. Romney. After all, I’ve been dead for forty years, worms and all, ya know?
Dumb 0b0z0 was an idiot. He’s the only jackass who still assing the garbage I taught him instead of mouthing something intelligent!
Late Prof. Alinsky
This is why I love FR.
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